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IRS Was Required By Law to Print Out Lois Lernerís Emails
Daily Caller ^ | June 17, 2014 | Patrick Howley

Posted on 06/17/2014 6:30:29 PM PDT by grundle

The Internal Revenue Service is required by federal law to keep records of all agency emails and to print out hard copies of the emails to make sure they get saved in the event of a computer glitch.

The IRS recently claimed that it lost 24,000 of 67,000 emails that ex-official Lois Lerner sent between 2009 and 2011, due to a computer crash. The IRS, which agreed to turn over all of Lerner’s emails to the House Committee on Ways and Means, specifically lost emails Lerner sent to other Obama administration agencies and the White House. Lerner is a major figure in the targeting scandal that has hit the IRS.

Meanwhile, President Barack Obama’s press secretary, Josh Earnest, backed up the IRS’s claim of a computer crash. The IRS claimed that it is currently working to retrieve the emails by working with the other agencies, which are not obligated by the IRS’s agreement with the Ways and Means Committee to cooperate.

“The [Federal Records Act] requires agencies to make and preserve records of agency decisions, policies, and essential transactions, and to take steps to safeguard against the loss of agency records,” said House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Rep. Darrell Issa, who subpoenaed IRS Commissioner John Koskinen Monday.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: gettherope; impeachnow; irs; irsscandal; irsscandals; irsteapartyscandal; lerneremails; loislerner; obama; obamalies
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1 posted on 06/17/2014 6:30:29 PM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

Time to send in a crack squad to rifle through the offices, pull apart filing cabinets, check scanner records, maybe even punch out some officials.


2 posted on 06/17/2014 6:32:32 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: grundle

Fear not, Eric Holder will ignore this to the fullest extent of the law.


3 posted on 06/17/2014 6:33:18 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Stop wishing for a perfect world. You may get it. Who will you talk to then?)
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To: grundle

Law? What’s law? This is Barry’s “fundamentally transformed” America now. We don’t do laws. We do “phones, pens and hashtag signs.


4 posted on 06/17/2014 6:34:16 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: grundle

law ? isn’t that a ‘bump in the road’ for the obozo gang ?


5 posted on 06/17/2014 6:34:26 PM PDT by kingattax (a real American would rather die on his feet than live on his knees.)
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To: grundle

True the Vote attorney, Cleta Mitchell, has reminded them of this.

She’s asked to have access to Learning Lois’ work and personal computers.

ABOLISH THE INCOMPETENT IRS.


6 posted on 06/17/2014 6:35:53 PM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: grundle

I don’t know what is more disturbing. The fact that she claims she lost all her emails due to a hard drive crash, or the fact that government regulation requires bureaucrats to print out and store each email they send. Any wonder why the government is hopelessly inefficent and spending money like a drunken sailor?


7 posted on 06/17/2014 6:36:07 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: grundle

This whole story is nonsense. Maybe they will eventually turn them over, possible its just a way to delay and embarrass the congress. But I do not for a second believe that the IRS did not have mail servers and back-ups off-site, relying solely on her personal computer to save/store all communications.

More likely is a) intentional destruction, b) mischief brinksmanship/game playing between branches, c) she used a personal mail box to avoid the kind of scrutiny she now faces.


8 posted on 06/17/2014 6:37:35 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: grundle

This whole story is nonsense. Maybe they will eventually turn them over, possible its just a way to delay and embarrass the congress. But I do not for a second believe that the IRS did not have mail servers and back-ups off-site, relying solely on her personal computer to save/store all communications.

More likely is a) intentional destruction, b) mischief brinksmanship/game playing between branches, c) she used a personal mail box to avoid the kind of scrutiny she now faces.


9 posted on 06/17/2014 6:37:36 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: grundle

What did the president know and when did he know it?


10 posted on 06/17/2014 6:38:00 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: grundle

O B S T R U C T I O N - O F - J U S T I C E


11 posted on 06/17/2014 6:39:38 PM PDT by Repent and Believe (Promote good. Tolerate the harmless. Let evil be crushed.)
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To: grundle
"IRS Was Required By Law to Print Out Lois Lerner’s Emails"

Well, everybody knows that Obama and his side-kick Holder don't enforce the laws they don't like.

12 posted on 06/17/2014 6:39:48 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: grundle
We have elected a bunch of useful idiots. Start taking law license's from the IRS!
13 posted on 06/17/2014 6:40:32 PM PDT by Domangart (Tho I walk Through the valley of Wal-Mart, I fear no man.)
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To: monkeyshine

Right on. If an email left her computer or an email was received on her computer, it is stored somewhere.


14 posted on 06/17/2014 6:41:06 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: grundle

Those printouts were destroyed in a fire.


15 posted on 06/17/2014 6:41:51 PM PDT by TChad (The Obamacare motto: Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.)
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To: grundle

Now everybody, let’s just calm down and think pleasant thoughts—let’s think about, say, how patient, understanding and forgiving the IRS is with us when they have our azzes in a wringer ....

On second thought I wanna see some hatchet-faced IRS female cadre and four-eyed tax persecutor bullies being perp-walked—and I mean cuffed and frog-marched—before this demokrat sozialist workers party travesty is over.


16 posted on 06/17/2014 6:42:02 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Her emails did not reside on her local hard drive. She might have had local copies of her emails via an email client, but the emails themselves persist on the server.

I haven’t seen anything about a server drive crashing, only that Lerners local hard drive failed. They really must think the American people are so stupid in every way that they could get away with such a transparently bogus story.


17 posted on 06/17/2014 6:42:31 PM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: grundle

The computer crashed? How unfortunate. Just hand over the hard copies and we will continue the investigation. You don’t have the hard copies? Where are they? Go get them, NOW!


18 posted on 06/17/2014 6:43:18 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: grundle

This isn’t going to end well for some apparatchiks.


19 posted on 06/17/2014 6:44:12 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: Psalm 144

Unless they end up swinging from ropes it’ll be too damned good for them.


20 posted on 06/17/2014 6:47:14 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

Agreed. It is a covert coup against the people, and should be prosecuted as such. I feel the same way about vote fraud.


21 posted on 06/17/2014 6:48:23 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: Psalm 144

Vote fraud in any form should be a capital offense.


22 posted on 06/17/2014 6:49:34 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: grundle

There’s a law? So what?

Here’s the law: They must, if they chose to.....or.....nothing.


23 posted on 06/17/2014 6:57:12 PM PDT by DManA
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Tweets and FB posts lack the je ne sais quoi of torches and pitchforks.
25 posted on 06/17/2014 7:01:58 PM PDT by gasport (Will operate for food.)
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To: DManA

These anti-Rule-of-Law degenerates throughout government need brought to9 justice. These psychopaths just care about their bonuses, their pay and their cushy retirement. Freaks! Everyone in their neighborhoods, their relatives and everyone else should shun these asses.


26 posted on 06/17/2014 7:02:18 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: DManA

These anti-Rule-of-Law degenerates throughout government need brought to justice. These psychopaths just care about their bonuses, their pay and their cushy retirement. Freaks! Everyone in their neighborhoods, their relatives and everyone else should shun these asses.


27 posted on 06/17/2014 7:02:27 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: hal ogen
Ya need a marshal. There are no marshals.

need brought to justice.

28 posted on 06/17/2014 7:03:45 PM PDT by DManA
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To: grundle

This is what lawlessness looks lile


29 posted on 06/17/2014 7:16:06 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: grundle

It was a Cleansing , Dude


30 posted on 06/17/2014 7:19:13 PM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: TChad
No silly!

There was a nationwide IRS morale building group canoe trip, and all the IRS employees had all their PC hard drives and all the paper copies of their emails with them, and they all just accidentally lost everything when the canoe tipped over somewhere in the middle of that river!

What river was that you may ask?
Well, nobody is really certain because they were all bussed to the river in small groups, and everyone just assumed someone else, we think his name was Bob, was in charge and kept official records of the strictly voluntary and private, taxable group outing.

Wow!
The IRS must be as bad at boating as FR gun owners!

31 posted on 06/17/2014 7:19:58 PM PDT by sarasmom (Extortion 17. A large number of Navy SEALs died on that mission. Ask why.)
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To: grundle

So? Since when does law or its reuirments matter to the Oval Office and its tail wagging lackey department heads and other higher ups?


32 posted on 06/17/2014 7:20:51 PM PDT by Sasparilla
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To: grundle
IRS Was Required By Law to Print Out Lois Lerner’s Emails

So, if the government isn't required to "follow the law", are us peasants required to "follow the law", or not?

Oh, that's right - if a peasant doesn't "follow the law", he or she will be shot and killed by the government's storm troopers.

33 posted on 06/17/2014 7:23:12 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: gasport
Tweets and FB posts lack the je ne sais quoi of torches and pitchforks.

LOL! Great post.

34 posted on 06/17/2014 7:26:15 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: sarasmom
everyone just assumed someone else, we think his name was Bob, was in charge and kept official records of the strictly voluntary and private, taxable group outing.

DAMN that Bob! He's always screwing up!

We could fire him, if only we knew his last name.

35 posted on 06/17/2014 7:28:03 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: grundle
I ain't got no stinkin' emails.
36 posted on 06/17/2014 7:29:10 PM PDT by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: grundle; All

Laws? Laws? We don’t need no dirty, stink in’ laws.


37 posted on 06/17/2014 7:31:17 PM PDT by Nifster
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As a reprimand, Bob was given a four-week suspension with full pay and a warning that if it ever happened again, he would be given another four-week suspension with full pay.


38 posted on 06/17/2014 7:33:51 PM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: sarasmom
Wow! The IRS must be as bad at boating as FR gun owners!

LOL. Great analogy!

39 posted on 06/17/2014 7:52:39 PM PDT by randita
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To: Jim Robinson

I’d like to know what the president doesn’t know, and when he stopped knowing it.


40 posted on 06/17/2014 7:54:56 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: grundle

We want immunity for IRS whistleblowers, and we want it now.


41 posted on 06/17/2014 7:56:43 PM PDT by TChad (The Obamacare motto: Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.)
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To: grundle

DISMANTLE the I.R.S. (Internal Revenue for Socialists) of the U.S.A. (United Sociaiists of America)

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

Socialism Is Legal Plunder - Bastiat

http://www.usdebtclock.org

BIG GOVERNMENT (and its collectives) IS CRONY SOCIALISM


42 posted on 06/17/2014 7:59:57 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: PGalt

Bob moved to Brazil. He set the password.


43 posted on 06/17/2014 8:01:13 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (The zombies here elected alcee hastings. TERM LIMITS ... TERM LIMITS)
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To: grundle

Lerner is one of the goons at G.A.G. (Great American Gestapo).


44 posted on 06/17/2014 8:01:58 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: bicyclerepair
Bob moved to Brazil. He set the password.

LOL! As legit as any absurdity we've heard.

45 posted on 06/17/2014 8:04:07 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Viennacon

One loss is a really ironic coincidence. The very fact that it isn’t just HER email but six more IRS staffers under investigation proves it is a conspiracy. You don’t get that many crashed hard drives wiping out emails - of just the lead people called in to talk about the targeting of conservatives.

IRS Has Lost More E-mails . . .
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/380576/irs-has-lost-more-e-mails-eliana-johnson


46 posted on 06/17/2014 8:09:00 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: grundle

In other words, the computer pleads the fifth too.


47 posted on 06/17/2014 8:09:35 PM PDT by boycott
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To: grundle

When has 0Bamma had any respect whatsoever for the laws of this country? Get real!


48 posted on 06/17/2014 8:09:47 PM PDT by Ranger Warrior
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To: kevao
As a reprimand, Bob was given a four-week suspension with full pay and a warning that if it ever happened again, he would be given another four-week suspension with full pay.

LOL! THAT'LL teach that incompetent bastitch.

49 posted on 06/17/2014 8:24:56 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: bicyclerepair
Bob moved to Brazil. He set the password.

"wound my heart with a monotonous languor"

50 posted on 06/17/2014 8:27:40 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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