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Deadly break-in at Arizona church puts spotlight on issue of clergy possessing weapons
Associated Press ^ | June 17, 2014 | Staff

Posted on 06/17/2014 7:39:28 PM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman

PHOENIX – A deadly burglary at an Arizona church is raising questions about the wisdom of clergy possessing weapons, no matter how dangerous their mission.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: guncontrol; religion; responsibility; selfdefense

1 posted on 06/17/2014 7:39:28 PM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

Let us disarm the Christians it says. Wonder why?


2 posted on 06/17/2014 7:41:03 PM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

Somebody needs to train them to know that when you pull out a gun, you immediately pull the trigger.


3 posted on 06/17/2014 7:43:16 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

The priest had no business owning a pistol that he did not know how to use. If the bad guy gets your weapon - it’s your fault.


4 posted on 06/17/2014 7:44:48 PM PDT by dadgum (Overjoyed to be the Pariah.)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

What nonsense to question whether “clergy” should be armed. Half the congregation at my church are armed.


5 posted on 06/17/2014 7:45:48 PM PDT by nonsporting
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Or not.


6 posted on 06/17/2014 7:47:04 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: nonsporting

> What nonsense to question whether “clergy” should be armed. Half the congregation at my church are armed.

Same here. It would be a suicide mission for someone to invade our church with ANY weapons


7 posted on 06/17/2014 7:50:49 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: FlingWingFlyer; Foundahardheadedwoman

The priest who owned the gun was so severely beaten by the attacker that when he retrieved the pistol he was physically unable to fire it. In the photos of the priest his hands are both extensively bandaged and splinted.


8 posted on 06/17/2014 7:52:47 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: dadgum
The priest was a former OTR truck driver and he sure as heck knew how to use a Colt Python.

He was so severely beaten with a tire iron that his fingers were virtually destroyed as he tried to prevent the assailant from bashing his head in. He was only partially successful in protecting his head - he was admitted to hospital in critical condition - and his hands were so damaged that he could not physically pull the trigger.

There are no guarantees in trying to contend with subhuman vermin.

Why don't you rethink your comment in light of the facts and quit blaming the victim.

9 posted on 06/17/2014 8:03:44 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

Foremost part of gun control is retention of ones gun.


10 posted on 06/17/2014 8:09:58 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and for what Muslims do.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Source, please.
Based on the information in the OP, my conclusion was correct.


11 posted on 06/17/2014 8:10:00 PM PDT by dadgum (Overjoyed to be the Pariah.)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

Skeeter Skelton, one of my favorite writers said their Methodist Preacher kept a loaded Colt .45 auto in the pulpit.


12 posted on 06/17/2014 8:11:23 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: AnAmericanMother

That’s so terrible! It’s quite true, having a gun is not a guarantee at all. Once the attack has started, it’s often too late. But I’d rather go down trying than not have a weapon at all.


13 posted on 06/17/2014 8:12:58 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (Up yours NSA !)
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To: nonsporting

Yes, haven’t they ever heard of the “church militant”?


14 posted on 06/17/2014 8:16:43 PM PDT by miele man
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman
PHOENIX – A deadly burglary at an Arizona church is raising questions about the wisdom of clergy possessing weapons, no matter how dangerous their mission.

The kindest thing I can say, and the safest, is I really hate the Associated Press and its staff writers.
It's also the safest.

15 posted on 06/17/2014 8:16:48 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

People of faith don’t deserve 2nd amendment rights? Seriously AP?


16 posted on 06/17/2014 8:16:54 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Yep. My farther taught me to shoot in the backyard when I was 18 because I was going to travel 20 miles to college. I am a woman but the same applies to men and priests. He told me if I ever pulled my gun it was because I had already mad the decision I was going to shoot someone. Never,never pull it and pause cause the bad guy would take the gun away from me. I have never forgot his instructions.


17 posted on 06/17/2014 8:23:37 PM PDT by therut
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To: dadgum

ABC 15 Arizona and AZ Central. It’s all there.


18 posted on 06/17/2014 8:24:24 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

i’m always armed at church.


19 posted on 06/17/2014 9:04:43 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

As am I.

One of the Cunning Sheep.


20 posted on 06/17/2014 9:13:49 PM PDT by dadgum (Overjoyed to be the Pariah.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

ABC 15 Arizona and AZ Central. It’s all there


NOOB is to lazy or too smart by half to work it out.....jerked knee as bad as any democrap girl.


21 posted on 06/17/2014 9:41:08 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights ......... It's the LAW !!!)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

I question the wisdom of some individuals possessing firearms. We have the freedom to make that choice, and some individuals will choose unwisely (in either direction). In the absence of freedom, with Barack or Hillary making that choice for all of us, we would be far worse off.


22 posted on 06/18/2014 1:47:22 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

In the world today, there is only one brand of clergy which would raise a concern relative to weapons or explosives, etc.


23 posted on 06/18/2014 1:56:04 AM PDT by cynwoody
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