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North Carolina Came Close to a Nuke Attack
Military.com ^ | June 14, 2014 | Matt Brawell

Posted on 06/17/2014 8:39:43 PM PDT by QT3.14

A newly-declassified report reveals that two nuclear bombs accidentally dropped in North Carolina were much closer to detonation than previously reported.

On January 21, 1961 a B-52 bomber went into a tailspin, breaking apart mid-flight over Goldsboro, N.C. The plane was carrying two nuclear bombs, both of which were pushed into free-fall. The parachute for one of the bombs was safely deployed, but the other continued to plummet.

It had been previously believed that, though nerve-racking, the incident was not nearly as dangerous as it sounded as neither bomb was armed. But documents released Thursday by the National Security Archive reveal that the bomb that was in free-fall was in fact armed, and only failed to detonate due to a technical malfunction.

(Excerpt) Read more at military.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: airforce; b52; northcarolina; nuclear; nuke
Close call!
1 posted on 06/17/2014 8:39:43 PM PDT by QT3.14
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To: QT3.14

Evidently so.


2 posted on 06/17/2014 8:41:38 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: QT3.14

I wonder what the yield on that sucker was…?

This was ‘61 so that was a real monster, I’d wager….


3 posted on 06/17/2014 8:43:05 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: QT3.14

Attack? How about accident?


4 posted on 06/17/2014 8:43:23 PM PDT by QT3.14
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To: gaijin
From the article:

"Weapon 2" was an armed 3.8 megaton nuclear bomb. By comparison, the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki that devastated Japan for over a generation weighed .03 megatons combined. If "Weapon 2" had detonated, the fallout would have been 190 times worse than the explosions that ended the World War II.

5 posted on 06/17/2014 8:44:55 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

Read the article.


6 posted on 06/17/2014 8:44:59 PM PDT by QT3.14
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To: QT3.14

Fascinating. I’ve never read this on FR before, except for the other 1213 times that it was posted in the last few months. LOL! :)


7 posted on 06/17/2014 8:45:19 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: gaijin

“Weapon 2” was an armed 3.8 megaton nuclear bomb. By comparison, the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki that devastated Japan for over a generation weighed .03 megatons combined. If “Weapon 2” had detonated, the fallout would have been 190 times worse than the explosions that ended the World War II.”


8 posted on 06/17/2014 8:46:08 PM PDT by Pelham (California, what happens when you won't deport illegals)
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To: QT3.14
I thought that was South Carolina...
9 posted on 06/17/2014 8:47:37 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: QT3.14
January 21, 1961

Though I'm not a big JFK fan (except for the tax cuts:), I'll concede it must have been less than pleasant to have to deal with this during his first full day in office.

10 posted on 06/17/2014 8:47:40 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: gaijin

190 times worse than Hiroshima???? Zoinks!

I would have been 1 or 2 - just down the road in Raleigh. This is one of those “things that make you go hmmm”


11 posted on 06/17/2014 8:48:17 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: gaijin
In 1956 they did a blast of a 3.8 MT and here is what they photoed:


12 posted on 06/17/2014 8:49:23 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: QT3.14

Read the posts, horse’s ass.


13 posted on 06/17/2014 8:50:26 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: QT3.14

1961. Wow. That’s just.........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


14 posted on 06/17/2014 8:51:41 PM PDT by DManA
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To: gaijin

There was a 4 second diff in our posts moron.


15 posted on 06/17/2014 8:55:07 PM PDT by QT3.14
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To: QT3.14

Dude, that was like 53 years ago.


16 posted on 06/17/2014 8:57:00 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Goes to show how much God loves NC> and you.


17 posted on 06/17/2014 8:57:17 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: QT3.14

My smell detector is calling BS on this STORY.


18 posted on 06/17/2014 9:01:51 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: QT3.14

What people today fail to appreciate is how hard SAC pushed itself in those days. In ‘61 we lost an average of one B-52 a month, -in training-.

Two days before this incident another B-52 “Felon 22” broke up and went down over a remote area in southeast Utah. It was January 19th, 1961. An airman who was able to bail out and made it to the ground, gathered his parachute around him to try to protect himself from the bitter cold. He froze to death shortly before the rescuers located him.

As he laid freezing under that tree in a wasteland, JFK gave his inaugural speech in DC. This is the “pay any price, bear any burden, meet any challenge,,,,, Ask not what your country can do for you speech”.

The next day this one went down over North Carolina. Today in the USAF crashes are more rare than ever. But in those days, they were out there over the edge, pushing the limits of men and machines. SAC was a national hero, and is sorely missed today.


19 posted on 06/17/2014 9:08:41 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: BenLurkin

The S.Carolina accident was a few years earlier. From Wikipedia:

# March 11, 1958 – Mars Bluff, South Carolina, USA – Non-nuclear detonation of a nuclear bomb

* A USAF B-47 bomber flying from Hunter Air Force Base in Savannah, Georgia accidentally released an atomic bomb. A home was destroyed and several people injured but the bomb’s plutonium core did not explode.


20 posted on 06/17/2014 9:14:47 PM PDT by jttpwalsh
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To: DesertRhino
The next day this one went down over North Carolina. Today in the USAF crashes are more rare than ever. But in those days, they were out there over the edge, pushing the limits of men and machines. SAC was a national hero, and is sorely missed today.

Gen. Curtis Lemay, and the WWII officer corps were some tough as nails men.

21 posted on 06/17/2014 9:17:11 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: QT3.14; blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; ...

Active Duty/Retiree ping.


22 posted on 06/17/2014 9:23:23 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: QT3.14

I wonder what the reaction would have been if the thing would have detonated. I’m SURE the communications between countries back then was nothing compared to what they are today. Would we have launched an all out retaliatory strike against the USSR, assuming they struck us first?(though their apparent first strike target would have made no sense at all)

Would we have retaliated even knowing it was an accident, as a face-saving measure? I tend to doubt it, as history would have been VERY unkind to such a thing, but worse things have probably happened. Of course, this is also assuming the .gov was as crooked back then as it is today.


23 posted on 06/17/2014 9:31:03 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: KoRn

Seems to me a dummy bomb would not have been difficult to construct; and real ones were mongo expen$ive. What could they have been thinking?


24 posted on 06/17/2014 10:01:49 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: AlexW

The story has been out there for a very long time. These are just new details on an old story. Please do some research on the facts before post.


25 posted on 06/17/2014 10:16:35 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: DesertRhino

I used to go to church with the head Chaplain of SAC, one Bishop Hopwood. He’d be over 100 years old now, but he passed away at age 98, about 4 years ago.

Given his age, I’d assume he’d of been at the peak of his career in the 1960s.


26 posted on 06/17/2014 10:23:33 PM PDT by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG!)
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To: QT3.14

Dealing with this type of incident was part of a program called “Broken Arrow”. There were photos of the nuc swing from a tree by the parachute.


27 posted on 06/17/2014 10:29:24 PM PDT by TaMoDee (Go Pack Go! The Pack will be back in 2014!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I’m pretty sure the doctrine of that era was that there were always nukes, airborne, 24/7. It served as a deterrent, if the Soviets hit us with a first strike, they knew the submarines and airborne SAC assets would be able to strike back.


28 posted on 06/17/2014 10:50:19 PM PDT by jttpwalsh
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To: jttpwalsh

Was this a plane that encountered a problem during a training maneuver, or simply while standing ready in the air?


29 posted on 06/17/2014 11:21:44 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Not sure. I know nowadays, training missions don’t ordinarily carry live nukes, not sure about back then, and in this incident. I will look around, online, and see if any more information is available.


30 posted on 06/17/2014 11:27:14 PM PDT by jttpwalsh
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To: HiTech RedNeck

From what I just read, in the S.Carolina incident, the plane was flying from Georgia to England, on what was described as an ‘exercise’. The plutonium core was stored, elsewhere, on board, and remained in the plane. The remainder of the bomb fell 15,000 ft., and the detonation of the high explosive trigger created a 50 ft. wide crater, that, today, is a tourist attraction !


31 posted on 06/17/2014 11:41:20 PM PDT by jttpwalsh
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To: QT3.14

God was protecting us!


32 posted on 06/18/2014 1:10:16 AM PDT by JSDude1
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To: TaMoDee

Agreed. FYI - the first “Broken Arrow” - 1950. B-36 having engine trouble, crashed in British Columbia.


33 posted on 06/18/2014 4:02:19 AM PDT by jamaksin
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To: jttpwalsh
" bomber flying from Hunter Air Force Base in Savannah, Georgia accidentally released an atomic bomb. A home was destroyed and several people injured..."

Wouldn't that nearly ruin your day, having a nuclear bomb fall on your house.

34 posted on 06/18/2014 5:20:54 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age didn’t end because we ran out of stones)
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To: QT3.14; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; shove_it; TrueKnightGalahad; Cincinatus' Wife; ...
Re: Matt Bradwell reporting: "Weapon 2" was an armed 3.8 megaton nuclear bomb. By comparison, the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki that devastated Japan for over a generation weighed .03 megatons combined.

"...weighed .03 megatons combined..."

Gadzooks! Matt Bradwell... is an idiot!

Does anyone at military.com know their right hand... from shinola!

35 posted on 06/18/2014 6:19:43 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: norwaypinesavage

No doubt !


36 posted on 06/18/2014 8:08:44 AM PDT by jttpwalsh
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To: QT3.14

God was watching over the folks of North Carolina.


37 posted on 06/18/2014 8:14:32 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed

Or South Carolina...


38 posted on 06/18/2014 8:17:11 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: gaijin

Pretty.


39 posted on 06/18/2014 8:18:15 AM PDT by eddie willers
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To: QT3.14

my impression is that at least the older 1st generation nukes were designed to be armed manually during flight and not until the need arose (specific target identified, weather path clear, etc). otherwise you could drop one on the runway while loading it and it would go off at the air base.

so i wonder how much of this story is actually true and how much of it is politically motivated. if it is politically motivated, who benefits? what powerful entity is pushing, for example, for unilateral disarmament and destruction of our nukes?


40 posted on 06/18/2014 12:08:01 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: QT3.14

thank you


41 posted on 06/18/2014 12:10:11 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/ http://thepurginglutheran.tumblr.com/)
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To: SteveH

“what powerful entity is pushing....?”

The KGB/DNC Axis of Evil.


42 posted on 06/18/2014 3:36:58 PM PDT by ChicagahAl (Don't blame me. I voted for Sarah.)
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To: Bender2; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy; sickoflibs; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued
"...weighed .03 megatons"

"I made the Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs."

"Isn't a parsec a unit of distance, not time?"

"Um....shut up!"

43 posted on 06/18/2014 3:44:36 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy; Bender2; NFHale; BillyBoy; sickoflibs; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued

Han...Solo...?

I’m verklempt.


44 posted on 06/18/2014 3:49:32 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA
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To: jttpwalsh

As far as I know, the airborne alert flights continued until about 1965, ending shortly after the refueling midair collision near Palomares, Spain.


45 posted on 06/23/2014 7:40:33 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Thanks for the info !


46 posted on 06/23/2014 7:48:18 PM PDT by jttpwalsh
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