Ben Carson: Remove the Illegal-Immigration Carrots. If you game the system, so will the illegals.

National Review ^ | 06/18/2014 | Dr. Ben Carson

[GrandJediMasterYoda]

Please please Dr. Carson run for POTUS.

[GrandJediMasterYoda]

Please please Dr. Carson run for POTUS.

[Paine in the Neck]

1. secure the border in a transparently verifiable way;
2. end the anchor-baby interpretation of the 14th Amendment;
3. enforce eVerify without exception and with severe penalties;
4. deportation upon contact with any law enforcement agency, federal, state or local
5. no government benefits beyond critical emergency care (and that ought to be billed back to the home government); and
6. NO "Path to Citizenship" - EVER - for anyone who has entered the US illegally.

Anything less than these six things is unacceptable. It is de facto amnesty. And it will inevitably, ineluctably encourage millions more illegal entries.

[A_Former_Democrat]

I’ve heard many stories from friends about scamming the system. Fake marriages to get a boyfriend here, offers of money to stay here, or looking to get married just to stay here from those on temporary visas. It is particularly so within ethnic communities where fake marriages are more easily concocted.

Then there’s the running across the border or the citizenship birth resorts that cater to the wealthy foreigners. Scams all and not a peep out of our “representatives”

Birthright citizenship needs to go. It was put there for a reason and that reason is past. A literal reading of it allows for gaming the system, yet again, not a peep while the average Joe has to bear the financial, cultural, educational and safety burdens of the scam.

[Liz]

Hollowing out the US economy continues apace---illegals greedily riding the US gravy train while US taxpayers handout billions in foreign aid to their do-nothing Third World hellholes--specifically earmarked to subsidize poverty-stricken populations.

Time to cut off US aid to these corrupt, do-nothing governments. US aid should be suspended until the countries tell us where the money is going......and demand they put out appropriate messaging to counter the ads said to be fueling the horrendous surge at the border from Central America.

NOTE WELL: US Aid figures do not include military aid and aid from other US agencies: El Salvador: $280.4M Honduras: $680M Dominican Republic: $223.7M Mexico: $958.2M Guatemala: $391.8M

SOURCE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_foreign_aid_received

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This report shows US aid $’s for the past few years (see page 9 (US Assistance) and pages 25-30 show various other agencies providing aid (DOD, etc.) (needs more research)

LINK http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/row/R42582.pdf

We could also send the countries a bill for processing, housing, feeding and providing healthcare and daycare for each of the illegals citizens that they facilitate into the US.

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Most Americans are fed-up---and want these types sent back from whence they came....but the buzz is Central American govts are refusing to take them back.

This is what Bill Clinton did when the Cubans tried to come over.

1. Used the coast guard to escort them and point them back to Cuba

2. Went to Congress and they have him the power to empower the state governors, that in case of a mass migration they can "authorize every sheriff, every police department in AZ and TX, to utilize their state police, take custody of these individuals, give them short term assistance, and start loading up their national guard planes and fly them back home...

....none of this turning them loose crap...

....word will circulate within 24 hours...."there ain't no free lunch."

[ZULU]

Totally agree except for the Guest Worker Gambit.

I think that will create a permanent underclass of exploited foreign workers, exacerbating the existing problem of unassimilable ghettos.

If we need more workers, we should give preferance to people willing to come here LEGALLY and who want to be American Citizens - along with all that entails, including accepting our value system and learning our language and paying our taxxes.

[cripplecreek]

And no discussion about anything else until your number one is complete and proven.

[Gay State Conservative]

Republicans should pound,over and over,the fact that illegals hurt *minorities* most...those who are here legally that is.Most Freepers,most middle class people,don't have to compete with illegals for jobs.

[SeekAndFind]

So, what ever happened to the Bracero Program of the 1950’s? It was working fine until the unions destroyed it.

[GrandJediMasterYoda]

That’s how it should be, but unfortunately we have traitors in both political parties who see no problem with selling out their own country. What needs to happen is any rep who does so, should be immediately removed from office and brought up on charges of treason and violating their oath of office. These traitors are the ultimate cause of our invasion problem.

[Gay State Conservative]

I think that will create a permanent underclass of exploited foreign workers, exacerbating the existing problem of unassimilable ghettos.

I know very little about agriculture (I'm a city boy from the Northeast) but I've heard it said over...and over...and over again that farms and orchards need many people to do backbreaking physical work that pays very little.Assuming this is true there are only two solutions that I can see...a "guest worker" program or increase the pay and improve the working conditions for those who do this work substantially.I,personally.would be willing to pay more for my broccoli and my oranges if it helped get illegals out but would that solution work? I honestly don't know.

[SMARTY]

Good plan.

To trivialize, mock or otherwise nullify the significance of American citizenship is to trivialize, mock and nullify the sovereignty of the United States.

What idiot cannot see where THAT leaves us?

[Dick Bachert]

Yes, Dr. Carson IS spot on on many issues. My problem is that he’s squishy on the 2nd Amendment. Until we get more clarification on that subject, I’ll have to hold back a bit for now.

[odawg]

“providing us with a steady stream of immigrants from other nations who will strengthen our society.”

How and when did it become settled that the American people are so inferior that they are unable to maintain a strong and successful nation on their own, without the aid of people from countries who have never been able to do it?

[skeeter]

The government has no intention of removing the ‘carrots’... taxpayer subsidization of cheaper labor is part of their understanding with the corporate cronies in exchange for campaign donations or lobbying jobs.

[Graewoulf]

Interesting comparison of two Dictators when losing became inevitable:

* Hitler’s Fast tracking of Death Camps and

* Obama’s Fast flooding of Illegal Alien Invaders from Mexico.

IMHO: both Dictators saw their fast actions efforts as THE FINAL SOLUTION.

[skeeter]

I know very little about agriculture (I'm a city boy from the Northeast) but I've heard it said over...and over...and over again that farms and orchards need many people to do backbreaking physical work that pays very little.

The only thing you need to know about this is less than 4% of the illegals in the country today are employed by agriculture.

[9YearLurker]

So you like his pro-amnesty position?

[9YearLurker]

So you like his pro-amnesty position too?