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Fatal shooting may have been accidental
The News Herald ^ | 6/18/14 | Zack McDonald

Posted on 06/18/2014 2:50:49 PM PDT by Callahan

PANAMA CITY — A new father is dead after what appeared to be an accidental shooting Tuesday night.

Steven Justin Ayers, 33, and his wife had gathered family members to celebrate the homecoming of their 3-day-old baby — born on Father’s Day. But the celebration at 2502 Michigan Court ended shortly after 6 p.m. when a stray bullet entered the home, struck Ayers in the back of the head and killed him instantly.

Moments earlier, Charles Edward Shisler, 62, had picked up a loaded 9mm pistol in his residence, adjacent to the Ayers’ home, and the gun discharged. Shisler was in his back yard at 3708 W. 25th St. when Bay County Sheriff’s Office deputies arrived minutes after the shooting, according to arrest reports.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: guncontrol; gunsafety; handguns

1 posted on 06/18/2014 2:50:49 PM PDT by Callahan
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To: Callahan

Stupid guns; always ‘magically’ just discharging as soon as some idiot touches one.


2 posted on 06/18/2014 2:55:41 PM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: Callahan

Charles Edward Shisler, 62, had picked up a loaded 9mm pistol in his residence, adjacent to the Ayers’ home, and the gun discharged.

Don’t you just hate when your gun does this? I have asked my 9 to never do this.. But you know guns they rarely listen.......


3 posted on 06/18/2014 2:56:51 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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To: Callahan
Investigators Wednesday morning were processing the trajectory of the bullet, which traveled more than 200 feet — through Shisler’s screen, an open window, about 60 feet of medium-density woods and then through the Ayers’ home — before striking Ayers.

Damn, when it's your time, it's your time.

4 posted on 06/18/2014 2:59:50 PM PDT by The Cajun (tea party!!!, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert......Nuff said.)
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To: LittleBillyInfidel
Yea. As far as I am concerned there is no such thing as an "accidental shooting".
They are either, careless, reckless or born out of stupidity.
5 posted on 06/18/2014 3:02:24 PM PDT by Falcon4.0
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To: SECURE AMERICA

Moms Against Self-Discharging Guns are gonna be pissed.


6 posted on 06/18/2014 3:03:00 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Callahan

“tried to pick up the gun by its trigger”
Can you imagine a gun “going off” under those circumstances.
He was charged with felon in possession of a weapon, guess those background checks are keeping us safe.

Col. Coopers gun safety rules:
1. All guns are always loaded. Even if they are not, treat them as if they are.
2. Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy. (For those who insist that this particular gun is unloaded, see Rule 1.)
3. Keep your finger off the trigger till your sights are on the target. This is the Golden Rule. Its violation is directly responsible for about 60 percent of inadvertent discharges.
4. Identify your target, and what is behind it. Never shoot at anything that you have not positively identified.


7 posted on 06/18/2014 3:04:06 PM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: LittleBillyInfidel

A drunk felon picking up his loaded illegal gun by the trigger is not an accident! It is negligent homicide and should have special circumstances. The author of the article is a moron, almost as big a moron as the felon.


8 posted on 06/18/2014 3:05:14 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Callahan

“and the gun discharged”


9 posted on 06/18/2014 3:08:35 PM PDT by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: Falcon4.0
Yea. As far as I am concerned there is no such thing as an "accidental shooting". They are either, careless, reckless or born out of stupidity.

I almost agree....but I witnessed 2 incidents that were accidental....one a dropped weapon that had its "safety" engaged and 0ne which was set off by a piece of brush as the hunter passed through....neither hurt anyone, but both dischaRGED THE WEAPOn

10 posted on 06/18/2014 3:18:28 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: The Cajun

So, a 9mm went 200 ft and through a wall and killed a man? If true, hard to explain the conventional wisdom of a 9mm not having enough stopping power for self protection.


11 posted on 06/18/2014 3:21:26 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: Mastador1

“The author of the article is a moron, almost as big a moron as the felon.”

Actually, the article gives lots of information. I wish all articles gave as much.


12 posted on 06/18/2014 3:34:14 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: terycarl

I agree. There are always exceptions.


13 posted on 06/18/2014 4:03:34 PM PDT by Falcon4.0
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To: Truth is a Weapon

As long as you hit the target in the back of the head.


14 posted on 06/18/2014 4:20:37 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: thorvaldr

Just asking...?
I’m an old lady, own a 9mm and hate the thing. Thinking there was an intruder in my house, I was so scared I never picked up the 9mm. In my fear, I couldn’t remember how to get it ready to shoot. My .38 in my friend, point and shoot.
Is it really possible to just pick up a 9mm and it accidentally fires?


15 posted on 06/18/2014 4:28:29 PM PDT by WestwardHo
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To: The Cajun

“Damn, when it’s your time, it’s your time.”

Yes. Totally agreed. That is the sad moral of this story.

RIP unlucky man, at least you got to see the face of your child before your number came up.


16 posted on 06/18/2014 4:28:50 PM PDT by jocon307 (These people are (some Polish word) crazy)
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To: WestwardHo

There is, if it’s a Glock. That brand of pistol is cocked once a round is loaded and there is no external safety to keep it from being discharged. The closest there is to a safety is a mini trigger in the center of the trigger that has to be depressed to make the weapon fire. That ‘s why I have a Beretta.


17 posted on 06/18/2014 4:53:52 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: Falcon4.0
Yea. As far as I am concerned there is no such thing as an "accidental shooting". They are either, careless, reckless or born out of stupidity.

I always remember what Brother Dave once said: "I don't believe in accidents. It's premeditated stupidity."

For those of tender years, Brother Dave was a night-club comic in the 1950s and 1960s.

18 posted on 06/18/2014 5:13:55 PM PDT by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: Truth is a Weapon
So, a 9mm went 200 ft and through a wall and killed a man? If true, hard to explain the conventional wisdom of a 9mm not having enough stopping power for self protection.

The bullet entered the Ayers' house through a glass door.

19 posted on 06/18/2014 5:57:53 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: OldPossum
Brother Dave once said: "I don't believe in accidents. It's premeditated stupidity."

I believe Uncle Sigmund saw it the same way.

20 posted on 06/18/2014 6:22:57 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: thorvaldr

It seems he managed to violate every safety rule with a very unfortunate result.


21 posted on 06/18/2014 7:20:41 PM PDT by TheDon (Californians are losing their right to keep and bear firearms one firearm at a time.)
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To: WestwardHo

>>Is it really possible to just pick up a 9mm and it accidentally fires?<<

NO. You must squeeze the trigger. If the neighbor had practiced proper safety he would have had the pistol pointed at the floor and then checked the chamber before squeezing the trigger.


22 posted on 06/18/2014 8:05:30 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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