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Sources: Lois Lernerís emails likely gone forever
Politico.com ^ | 6/18/14 | RACHAEL BADE

Posted on 06/18/2014 8:21:27 PM PDT by hole_n_one

Ex-IRS official Lois Lerner’s crashed hard drive has been recycled, making it likely the lost emails of the lightening rod in the tea party targeting controversy will never be found, according to multiple sources.

“We’ve been informed that the hard drive has been thrown away,” said Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah, the top Republican on the Finance Committee, in a brief hallway interview.

Two additional sources told POLITICO the same late on Wednesday, citing IRS officials.

(Also on POLITICO: White House hits back in IRS flap)

It may just be standard government procedure, but the revelation is significant because some lawmakers and observers thought there was a way that tech experts could revive Lerner’s emails after they were washed away in a computer crash in the summer of 2011. Oversight Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), for example, subpoenaed her damaged hard drive earlier this week, when he asked for “all hard drives, external drives, thumb drives, and computers” and “all electronic communication devices the IRS issued to Lois G. Lerner.”

“IT experts have weighed in and said yes — we can get those” emails, said Rep. Charles Boustany (R-La.) earlier Wednesday.

The latest news suggests such professionals may never get the chance to try again — and the IRS has said even its criminal investigators who specialize in rebuilding hard drives to recover hidden information from criminals were unable to restore the data back in 2011. But this is only likely to further enrage Republicans, who are fuming over the matter and suspect Washington officials drove the selective scrutiny.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coverup; deliberate; emails; ghostroom; loislerner; obstructionofjustice; sabotage; tyranny; worsethanwatergate
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1 posted on 06/18/2014 8:21:27 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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“We’ve been informed that the hard drive has been thrown away,”

Yeah! That's the ticket!

2 posted on 06/18/2014 8:23:15 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: hole_n_one

Wow, bag luck! Hate when THAT happens.


3 posted on 06/18/2014 8:24:07 PM PDT by 4Liberty (Optimal institutions - optimal economy.)
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To: hole_n_one

THEY WERE BACKED UP, HATCH!! YOU DINOSAUR...


4 posted on 06/18/2014 8:24:20 PM PDT by rickomatic
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To: hole_n_one
What about the hard drive on the mail server? Also, what about her personal computer and secret email account, that everyone in DC seems to have for just such occasions?

What we need is an NSA type organization that will suck up all computer activity of the federal government. But it will be owned and run by the states. If we need an FOIA request, we go there, not the feds.

5 posted on 06/18/2014 8:24:22 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: 4Liberty

Bag = bad. What ev’!


6 posted on 06/18/2014 8:25:11 PM PDT by 4Liberty (Optimal institutions - optimal economy.)
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To: hole_n_one

There must have been some pretty damning communications for all this to have happened.

But, I don’t buy it.


7 posted on 06/18/2014 8:27:14 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: hole_n_one

Tell the NSA to provide the info.
Get the resident servers and restore deleted info if it exists.
Find all mirrored servers and open them up.
TAKE HER CELL PHONE.


8 posted on 06/18/2014 8:27:19 PM PDT by struggle
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To: hole_n_one

In a related headline “Liberty and justice for all likely gone forever”


10 posted on 06/18/2014 8:27:53 PM PDT by Bullish (You ever notice that liberalism really just amounts to anti-morality?)
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To: hole_n_one

11 posted on 06/18/2014 8:28:36 PM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: hole_n_one

They have to check IRS mail server. It doesn’t matter whether her hard disk crash or thrown away. Mail Server is kept somewhere else, and even deleted files are kept, it is not possible only select emails from six person were in bad sector of server. These servers are backed up.


12 posted on 06/18/2014 8:29:11 PM PDT by jennychase
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To: hole_n_one

13 posted on 06/18/2014 8:29:16 PM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: hole_n_one

NSA has a copy, ask them. Don’t have to beg for print copies (required by law) and system backups.

I don’t think Oama’s administration is all that worried about this. They’ve had time to destroy whatever they wanted to and they’ve already gotten away with so much I think now they are just grandstanding.


14 posted on 06/18/2014 8:29:26 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: hole_n_one

““We believe the standard IRS protocol was followed in 2011 for disposing of the broken hard drive. A bad hard drive, like other broken Information Technology equipment, is sent to a recycler as part of our regular process,” an IRS spokesman said in response to a query from POLITICO.”

Wait a minute.... the story was that she kept her non-IRS emails stored locally. She KNOWS that those records are to be kept. That is required by law. It is NOT standard procedure to recycle a hard drive THAT CONTAINS FEDERAL RECORDS REQUIRED BY LAW TO BE KEPT!

All this is is Obama shooting double birds at Congress.


15 posted on 06/18/2014 8:29:29 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: hole_n_one
This is a bald faced lie. The U.S. government has been absolutely anal retentive when it comes to data preservation since the days of the Cold War. There are multiple redundancies for ALL government collected data, no matter how small. Heck, civilian businesses and mom and pop operations do this now.

Politico is trying to sell this myth? How about the House Bank that wasn't a bank and let House members write checks for more than they were paid (with unlimited NSF ability)? Try again, boys, this bird won't fly.

16 posted on 06/18/2014 8:30:07 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: hole_n_one
“making it likely the lost emails...will never be found, according to multiple sources.”

Who are these so called “multiple sources”? Most likely they are White House operatives telling the MSM to repeat and disseminate their lies.

Put people under oath. Make them tell their story under pain of perjury.

17 posted on 06/18/2014 8:30:18 PM PDT by detective
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To: hole_n_one

Well ...OF COURSE it was recycled. They used it to weight down Osama before sinking him.


18 posted on 06/18/2014 8:30:31 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: hole_n_one

Ever heard of the cloud?


19 posted on 06/18/2014 8:30:44 PM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods)
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To: ransomnote

I guess you can call it that. Obama says they are gone.

Move on.

Now we need 100 million people to stop filing taxes.


20 posted on 06/18/2014 8:32:16 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?s)
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To: hole_n_one

OK, so the hard drive was tossed in the trash.

That means that some people are going to jail for perjury.

It also means that what was in the emails must have implicated the President. Why else would the trashers risk going to jail?


21 posted on 06/18/2014 8:32:23 PM PDT by garjog (Obama: bringing joy to the hearts of Terrorists everywhere.)
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To: hole_n_one

Have we reached THE LIMIT OF ALINSKY?


22 posted on 06/18/2014 8:33:37 PM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: hole_n_one

The only thing worse than a corrupt government is a corrupt media.


23 posted on 06/18/2014 8:36:11 PM PDT by Henri Gaudier-Brzeska
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To: hole_n_one

And why didn’t she tell Congress her system had crashed months or years ago? Makes NO sense.


24 posted on 06/18/2014 8:36:34 PM PDT by what's up
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To: LyinLibs

Throw that skank in jail until she rots...or coughs up the evidence.

The house Republicans are a joke, all hat & no cattle...


25 posted on 06/18/2014 8:38:41 PM PDT by glasseye
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To: hole_n_one

This is clearly becoming a farce and everyone in DC puts up with it.

I’m surprised the “lost emails” don’t create another Rahm “crises we can’t waste” to spend billions more to “secure future emails”.

Lies on top of lies on top of lies. And the money is funneled off to DNC coffers.


26 posted on 06/18/2014 8:39:33 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Conservatives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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To: Bryan24

Can they subpoena to and from her on wh servers and a few other depts


27 posted on 06/18/2014 8:41:17 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( On to impeachment and removal (IRS, Taliban, Fast and furious, VA, Benghazi)!!!)
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To: hole_n_one

unless the server exploded, and the redundant server, and the redundant redundant server, in which case all of us no longer owe taxes since everything is gone, the data is still there, whether Lerner’s personal hard drive vaporized or not


28 posted on 06/18/2014 8:41:49 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: hole_n_one
  and the IRS has said even its criminal investigators who specialize in rebuilding hard drives to recover hidden information from criminals were unable to restore the data back in 2011.

  They need to produce the investigators and the documentation describing the work done. It's completely unbelievable anyway. I restore data from mechanically failing drives all the time using available recovery software and a lot of patience. If I can't recover the data, I just ship it to recovery professionals with a clean room and so far they haven't failed. Naturally, they claim to have thrown the drive away as if the emails were only stored in one location on a personal computer.
29 posted on 06/18/2014 8:43:32 PM PDT by Maurice Tift (Never wear anything that panics the cat. -- P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Vince Ferrer
when you have all these govt agencies working together its a conspiracy...

it takes very low and evil people to undermind the entire country for what?....their stinking fat pensions?...how do they live with themselves....I'll bet some claim to be Christians....

do people realize WHY we needed Romney?....and why its URGENT to get a pub in the White House?...

30 posted on 06/18/2014 8:43:54 PM PDT by cherry
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To: hole_n_one

Nothing is ever lost forever..they can always retrieve it, but considering the White House and Obama’s minions helped destroy the evidence, it might be gone forever..unless the NSA has it, and we all know the NSA won’t help out Conservatives


31 posted on 06/18/2014 8:44:20 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: hole_n_one

Who writes this crap? Surely the politico knows e-mail depends on the server not the hard drive. I can read 10 year old e-mail from 3 laptops ago simply by logging in to my account.


32 posted on 06/18/2014 8:44:32 PM PDT by HapaxLegamenon
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To: hole_n_one

Issa should offer a billion dollar reward to the first person to produce the emails. Dems shouldn’t have a problem with that since they insist it can’t be done.


33 posted on 06/18/2014 8:44:57 PM PDT by JoeRed
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To: hole_n_one

Lois Lerner could have set her PC on fire, shot holes through it with a .50 cal machine gun, dropped it into the Marianas Trench and...

she could still go to any other PC on the IRS’s network and access all her email.


34 posted on 06/18/2014 8:45:14 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: blueplum

Of course it’s all still there.

That was the lesson of Iran-Contra - there’s always a copy of e-mails somewhere.

But just the fact that the White House is desperately trying the spread the lie that “the e-mails are all gone, so we might as well just give up pursuing this issue” says how utterly damaging these e-mails really are!!


35 posted on 06/18/2014 8:48:05 PM PDT by canuck_conservative (Congrats Spurs, #5 !!)
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To: hole_n_one

Emails are not kept on hard drives... they are kept on backnup servers. If at my bank I had to forget all my deals and clients just because of a hard drive crash, I dont think the IRS would buy it.


36 posted on 06/18/2014 8:48:08 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: hole_n_one

Yes, and if only Nixon had destroyed those tapes of his as some people advised him to do instead of playing the Boy Scout and hanging on ho them because it was the right thing to do....


37 posted on 06/18/2014 8:49:09 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: hole_n_one
No one is so stupid to believe that Lois Lerner's email resided only on ONE HD. That is the most ludicrous thing I have ever heard and I am no IT Pro. The recipients of her emails would have them, and if they have deleted their agencies would have stored backups under FED LAW.
38 posted on 06/18/2014 8:49:16 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Vince Ferrer
What about the hard drive on the mail server? Also, what about her personal computer and secret email account, that everyone in DC seems to have for just such occasions?

According to the regs she was supposed to print them out.

Typically, in such an environment, this goes to a network printer.

Which has it's own hard drive...

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39 posted on 06/18/2014 8:50:25 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: hole_n_one
I've put Tommy on the trail of the missing emails and if anybody could destr, er, I mean, find them, it's him.
40 posted on 06/18/2014 8:51:36 PM PDT by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: rickomatic

THEY WERE BACKED UP, HATCH!! YOU DINOSAUR...


The IRS is also claiming that they have destroyed the back up tapes as well.

It was standard procedure, of course.


41 posted on 06/18/2014 8:55:31 PM PDT by rdcbn
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Standard since when?


42 posted on 06/18/2014 8:56:35 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: hole_n_one
“We’ve been informed that the hard drive has been thrown away,”

That's a violation of federal regulations and destruction of evidence --

So what are you going to do about it???

43 posted on 06/18/2014 8:56:53 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: hole_n_one

Those Lerner emails were just about dinner parties and bridge games. Nothing to implicate Obummer’ regime there.


44 posted on 06/18/2014 8:57:18 PM PDT by entropy12 (Obummer = worst president ever, thanks to voters who abstained on election day!)
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To: hole_n_one

This is just too much B.S. Obviously the Administration used the mechanisms of government to oppress its political opposition....and now we arrive at the ‘dog ate my email’ endpoint. I hope ABC, CBS, and NBC are proud of themselves for applying absolutely zero pressure on the Obama administration over this matter. What a freakin’ joke our country has become under the baby-boomer leadership. I can’t wait for the boomers to move through the annals of time. They are horrors as national leaders. They are worse than Nixon ever was to them. 2.5 more years of these criminals....Uhgggg!!!


45 posted on 06/18/2014 8:57:24 PM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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46 posted on 06/18/2014 8:59:06 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: glasseye

Throw that skank in jail until she rots...or coughs up the evidence.

The house Republicans are a joke, all hat & no cattle...


No , the Republicans follow the rules and procedures, while the Obama Admin uses that to stall and obstruct justice.


47 posted on 06/18/2014 8:59:21 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: hole_n_one

I think its time to storm Washington and arrest people. Politicians, government employees, whatever it takes at this point.


48 posted on 06/18/2014 9:00:04 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: hole_n_one

If ever there were a reason for a knockless raid complete with flashbangs and shot family pets, it was Lois Lerner’s house OVER A YEAR AGO.


49 posted on 06/18/2014 9:02:41 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: rdcbn

They don’t use tapes. They are being Deceitful.


50 posted on 06/18/2014 9:03:26 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?s)
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