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Megyn Kelly makes the Cheneys answer for being ‘wrong’ on Iraq
Hotair ^ | 06/19/2014 | Noah Rothman

Posted on 06/19/2014 7:10:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

It isn’t just the left that is cheering Fox News Channel’s Megyn Kelly this morning, a day after she gave former Vice President Dick Cheney and his daughter Liz Cheney a sound grilling over Iraq, many on the right suspicious of an interventionist foreign policy are cheering her as well.

On Wednesday night, Kelly hosted the Cheney’s for what was billed as a discussion about their new political initiative aimed at crafting criticisms of President Barack Obama’s present approach to foreign policy. While there is much that is worthy of criticism in Obama’s handling of foreign affairs, some, including AllahPundit, wondered if the Cheneys could serve as helpful messengers.

Kelly brought those concerns directly to the Cheneys. After reading a portion of a brutal op-ed which essentially accused Cheney of setting in motion the events which have led to the present chaos in Iraq, Kelly voiced her own criticism of the former vice president.

“Time and time again, history has proven that you got it wrong as well in Iraq, sir,” she said


That’s a little harsh, and it’s certainly a debatable point, but the substance of this interview is not what struck me. What was important, and is frankly undervalued by the rest of the political press, is how frequently the supposedly conservative news network veers off what many believe is their script. What’s more, when this sort of contentious interview with a prominent Republican occurs, Fox is rewarded for it by their core audience.

The opposite is not the case, according to a recent Pew Research Center survey on cable news viewers’ satisfaction with the product they are consuming:

One thing that differs when it comes to MSNBC is that it does not draw the same uniformly positive reviews from consistent liberals that FNC does from consistent conservatives. While nearly half (45%) of consistent liberals view MSNBC favorably, that’s not much better than how MSNBC rates among those with mixed ideological views (38%). Nearly half of consistent liberals offer no opinion of MSNBC. By contrast, the vast majority of consistent conservatives offer an opinion of Fox News, with 74% favorable and just 5% unfavorable.

“When MSNBC President Phil Griffin decided to turn his network into a liberal answer to Fox News, he was betting that there was a progressive audience out there to match the conservative faithful on the other side,” Politico’s Dylan Byers reacted. “But people don’t simply watch opinion channels because the programming matches their partisan views. The programming has to be compelling.”

Yes, but it’s more than that. Having watched MSNBC evolve as a network over the last two years, it seems to me that their every answer to ratings challenges is strive to be even more predictable. It has become increasingly rare for an MSNBC host to go off the reservation of progressive thought.

Kelly’s interview of the Cheneys was compelling, but it was also contentious and tension makes for good television. It is possible that MSNBC’s core audience simply does not appreciate having the members of their “team” challenged by those who are supposedly on their side. When was the last time you saw Chris Hayes or Rachel Maddow interrogate a Democratic officeholder from the right?



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cheney; iraq; megynkelly
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1 posted on 06/19/2014 7:10:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m through with Kelly and several other of the Fox newsbabes. I can’t listen to their strident (word for the Day) voices and the way they talk over their guests. Who do they think they are?


2 posted on 06/19/2014 7:14:23 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: SeekAndFind
Nearly half of consistent liberals offer no opinion of MSNBC.

Because they have plenty of other venues (ABCNNBCBS) for their particular slant. Who does the conservative have?

3 posted on 06/19/2014 7:16:22 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Nothing surprising about this, Kelly is a lefty Obama loving twit.


4 posted on 06/19/2014 7:16:47 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Kelly’s attitude aside, was Cheney and Bush wrong to invade Iraq?

In other words, would the world be relatively safer with Saddam Hussein still at the helm?

That is still the question.


5 posted on 06/19/2014 7:17:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Who do they think they are?

yep
6 posted on 06/19/2014 7:17:42 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: smoothsailing

Megyn Kelly is using Roger Ailes’ , (FOX’s CEO), “Be the Devil’s advocate” definition of “Fair and Balanced” questioning.

Top practitioners of this don’t-forget-the-obsolete-Liberals-point-of-view “Fair and Balanced” method are as follows:

# 1. Neil Cavoto

# 2. Bill O’Reilley

# 3. Megyn Kelley.

Rarely do any of these three pseudo journalists have guests with none-of-the-above Conservative opinions allowed to appear on their shows.

These three “Shows” are a notch above MSNBC Shows.

Note to Roger Ailes:

WE KNOW WHAT THE LIBERAL AND GOP-E POINTS OF VIEW ARE, SO STOP TELLING AND THUS PROMOTING THEIR HARMFUL IDEAS!


7 posted on 06/19/2014 7:19:59 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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Bush and Cheney did the right thing, but should've gone further.

They should have left nothing but a big black dark hole where most of these countries are.

Maybe the next man or woman will go far enough.
8 posted on 06/19/2014 7:20:40 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: SeekAndFind
"Kelly’s attitude aside, was Cheney and Bush wrong to invade Iraq?"

If they could have foreseen that the next President would snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, then they should not have invaded Iraq...
9 posted on 06/19/2014 7:26:52 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: SeekAndFind

Megan Kelly plays devil’s advocate

Fox is getting the ratings, the credibility and, frankly, the Chemeys can take it, and they did - just fine. Bush and cheneys names are all over Iraq. So he had a chance to explain himself

These guys are journalists.

As the writer here says, fox does not fawn , as does msnbc

The thing that bothers me about fox is watching Bret baier and Greta giving Hillary a pass. They should have asked her the obvious , so what about a stupid video , since when do we apologize to our attacker?

What bothers me about Megan is her weird fashion


10 posted on 06/19/2014 7:27:07 AM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne
What bothers me about Megan is her weird fashion

LOL. Last night she looked like she was going to the beach

11 posted on 06/19/2014 7:29:25 AM PDT by jersey117 (greta)
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To: SeekAndFind

Give Kelly points for being equal handed with Cheney. That is what I expect from a fair and balanced media. This examination of both sides of an issue is a refreshing change from what we hear from the Ministry of Propaganda media.


12 posted on 06/19/2014 7:30:54 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I like the fact that she comes at these interviews from all sides. That is good journalism. Conservatives should never be afraid of hearing varying opinions. We want the truth after hearing what everyone involved has to say.


13 posted on 06/19/2014 7:31:55 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: SeekAndFind

How does Megan know we got it wrong? what if Saddam stayed in power, took over Suadi Arabia and Kuwait, killed millions and allowed terrorists to have a safe haven?


14 posted on 06/19/2014 7:32:56 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: SeekAndFind
...was Cheney and Bush wrong to invade Iraq?

Almost all of our government and a substantial portion of the free world did not think so.

Iraq's current situation is the natural result of a subsequent administration leaving the job half completed. Is it logical to blame Cheney and Bush for that failure when they had absolutely no say in the matter?

15 posted on 06/19/2014 7:34:48 AM PDT by frog in a pot
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To: SeekAndFind
Were you happy with Saddam Hussein firing missiles at our pilots on a routine basis?

Aside from the fact that each missile fired at our pilots constituted an act of war, I guess if you weren't one of those pilots, it was probably no big deal to you.

16 posted on 06/19/2014 7:35:05 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: The Great RJ

YES!!!!


17 posted on 06/19/2014 7:35:19 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama Loves this Iraq Bull , the longer he drags it out the longer it will DISTRACT from his Scandals and when he finally does do something it will be just a stupid as the rest of his decisions


18 posted on 06/19/2014 7:35:24 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: 1Old Pro

RE: killed millions and allowed terrorists to have a safe haven

Saddam did all that.

Not sure what his relationship with Al Qaeda is though.


19 posted on 06/19/2014 7:35:38 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
When, and they will, attacks happen on our shores again, this little twit might understand why the radical terrorists must be wiped off the earth. We were in Iraq to try to eliminate this terrorists empire to attempt to stop attacks in America. She forgot 9/11 like so many communists Democrats and liberals.
20 posted on 06/19/2014 7:36:01 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: SeekAndFind
“Time and time again, history has proven that you got it wrong as well in Iraq, sir,” she said

I think invading Iraq was a mistake and done for the wrong reasons.

Fifteen of the nineteen 9/11 hijackers were Saudi Arabian so Bush Jr. decides to invade Iraq where, it just so happened, the man who plotted to assasinate Bush Sr. lived.

But if Kelly believes that Sadaam Hussein did not have chemical based WMD's she hasn't learned Iraq history very well.

It is a matter of documented fact that Hussein (Sadaam, not Barack) used chemical WMD's on his own fellow citizens.


21 posted on 06/19/2014 7:36:35 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The Obamas' Black skin has morphed into Teflon thanks to the Obama Media)
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To: SeekAndFind
In other words, would the world be relatively safer with Saddam Hussein still at the helm?

Like you I wonder if the Bush administration went after the wrong target, although Saddam Hussein was very bad. Our country had been attacked and our response was very mild. A stronger president would have hit terrorist-supporting governments heavily immediately. We should have unleashed trained killers to wreak havoc among the terrorist cells themselves. Personal killing, body-parts on door-steps, children, wives....show them the meaning of anger. They said Bush had no b*lls and they were right. All that has followed shows we chose the wrong response to the attacks.

22 posted on 06/19/2014 7:37:48 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama stands for the corruption of America in all aspects.)
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To: jersey117

She was wearing a bathing suit.


23 posted on 06/19/2014 7:37:57 AM PDT by stanne
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s a little irritating to hear Kelly repeat the claims of critics. But it is also good to allow the Cheney’s ample time to refute those claims. That is the proper way to do it.


24 posted on 06/19/2014 7:38:01 AM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why didn’t we just nuke Mecca on 09/12/2001????


25 posted on 06/19/2014 7:39:58 AM PDT by 1217Chic
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To: 1Old Pro
Well Saudi Arabia is the biggest financier of terrorism and we still buy their oil. They for the most part financed 9-11.
If we had let Saddam stay in power and never had fought the first gulf war would the Middle East be better off than now???
Chances are that Iraq would have gone into Saudi Arabia and taken over, deposed the Royal Family and gotten rid the Extremist Sect of Islam, The Wahabbi’s, then who knows.
26 posted on 06/19/2014 7:40:55 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: SeekAndFind

The other big question is what is we had not fought the First Gulf War???????????/


27 posted on 06/19/2014 7:41:56 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Izzy Dunne

Exactly!


28 posted on 06/19/2014 7:42:12 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: stanne

The questions bothered me at first but she gave them the opportunity to answer their critics and Cheney is a big enough guy to do it.

As I recall her last question was is Obama dangerous and Cheney said yes and it was left at that.

She is a lawyer and I recall deposition prep - you are asked the questions the other side will ask and you get your answers ready. I honestly don’t see a problem with this.


29 posted on 06/19/2014 7:42:21 AM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: Rapscallion

RE: A stronger president would have hit terrorist-supporting governments heavily immediately.

Well, Saddam was not hit immediately, but yes, he was terrorist supporting.

In 1993, the Iraqi Intelligence Service (IIS) directed and pursued an attempt to assassinate, through the use of a powerful car bomb, former U.S. President George Bush and the Emir of Kuwait. Kuwaiti authorities thwarted the terrorist plot and arrested 16 suspects, led by two Iraqi nationals.
Iraq shelters terrorist groups including the Mujahedin-e-Khalq Organization (MKO), which has used terrorist violence against Iran and in the 1970s was responsible for killing several U.S. military personnel and U.S. civilians.

Iraq shelters several prominent Palestinian terrorist organizations in Baghdad, including the Palestine Liberation Front (PLF), which is known for aerial attacks against Israel and is headed by Abu Abbas, who carried out the 1985 hijacking of the cruise ship Achille Lauro and murdered U.S. citizen Leon Klinghoffer.

Iraq shelters the Abu Nidal Organization, an international terrorist organization that has carried out terrorist attacks in twenty countries, killing or injuring almost 900 people. Targets have included the United States and several other Western nations. Each of these groups have offices in Baghdad and receive training, logistical assistance, and financial aid from the government of Iraq.

In April 2002, Saddam Hussein increased from $10,000 to $25,000 the money offered to families of Palestinian suicide/homicide bombers. The rules for rewarding suicide/homicide bombers are strict and insist that only someone who blows himself up with a belt of explosives gets the full payment. Payments are made on a strict scale, with different amounts for wounds, disablement, death as a “martyr” and $25,000 for a suicide bomber.

Mahmoud Besharat, a representative on the West Bank who is handing out to families the money from Saddam, said, “You would have to ask President Saddam why he is being so generous. But he is a revolutionary and he wants this distinguished struggle, the intifada, to continue.”

Former Iraqi military officers have described a highly secret terrorist training facility in Iraq known as Salman Pak, where both Iraqis and non-Iraqi Arabs receive training on hijacking planes and trains, planting explosives in cities, sabotage, and assassinations.”


30 posted on 06/19/2014 7:43:53 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Not sure what his relationship with Al Qaeda is though.

There were efforts to make the connection to justify the invasion of Iraq as 9/11 related but, as I recall, none was ever documented as fact.

IMHO, the 9/11 attacks on the US were used as a pretense to take out Sadaam Hussein for other, more personal reasons.

Yes, he was a brutal man and heartily disliked. But there are a lot of brutal men in power, like in Saudi Arabia, that we live with. And there is at least as much brutality in Iraq now as when Sadaam was in power.


31 posted on 06/19/2014 7:44:26 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The Obamas' Black skin has morphed into Teflon thanks to the Obama Media)
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To: SeekAndFind

Good. We should never have gone in. Should never have stayed. And should never go back.

I loathe all “news entertainment” but Kelly was spot on here.

Go away “deficits don’t matter and there are WMDs” Dick. People like Cheney got what they wanted out of the Iraq War. The myopic Dims think it was oil. Not even close. It was the Patriot Act ... America’s vote for fascism and the Police State.

The Cheney’s have done as much to damage this Republic as anyone. I wold send them and ODimwit to the Moon if I could.


32 posted on 06/19/2014 7:44:38 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Captain Peter Blood

Some people here cannot stand had questions…He answered it…We want Obama and Hillary asked these kinds of questions…She has been all over the VA, Iraq,the IRS….she doing a good job if you ask me…Better than BOR..


33 posted on 06/19/2014 7:45:44 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: frog in a pot
Are you aware that the information on the WMD’s and everything else was based upon the information from a Iraqi Taxi driver that claimed he had been involved in the Chemical warfare, etc.. German intelligence investigated and found he was a fraud but we bought it.
Check it out it is all documented.
34 posted on 06/19/2014 7:45:52 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: SeekAndFind

Megyn Kelly’s “gotcha” brand of “fair and Balanced” is weak and offensive. She’s rather self-righteous. I don’t want “fair and balanced” if it’s ambush, so-called journalism. I guess someone told her she was cute. Just give me the facts without all the garnish. I never liked “fair and balanced” or O’Reilly anyway.


35 posted on 06/19/2014 7:45:54 AM PDT by old school
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To: SeekAndFind

This is a case of the lefty media desperately looking to run with something, anything for there main man Obama.

Megan gave a fair interview with the Cheney’s. They can take care of themselves.

The shills are trying desperately to change the current meme on the Iraq debacle.

Was just listening to Van Holland pimp the idea that it’s Bush’s fault for going in there in the first place.

This is the current talking point they are trying to sell.

Maybe if the GOP opened their frigging mouths once in a while to combat this, we would get somewhere.

It’s about time for McCain to come out and blame Bush too.


36 posted on 06/19/2014 7:45:55 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: stanne
Megan Kelly plays devil’s advocate

Well said. Some of Kelly's questions to Cheney were tough, but they were all fair. And the tough questions were asked respectfully. I see no reason to fault her performance. After all, it was supposed to be a real interview, not mushy, softball theater like what's on MSNBC.

37 posted on 06/19/2014 7:48:01 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I watched it, and I didn’t think she was that harsh. She let Cheney defend his position pretty thoroughly without interruption, and the discussion then moved to Zero’s dithering and destruction.

She also had a really good segment about the Bowe Bergdahl hearings. This congresscritter was asking a series of questions about the conditions that Bergdahl was living in at the time, what the situation on the ground was—basically trying to soft pedal the whole desertion thing. He was asking this of some military guy that wasn’t even there. Then one of Bergdahl’s platoon mates (Cody Fuller) finally could not take it anymore and asks the questioner if he could address the panel. The congresscritter has this somewhat annoyed smirk, sighs, and then agrees to let Fuller speak. Fuller then goes on to say, in summary, that if they want to know what the conditions were, he could tell them because HE WAS THERE. “I was right there with him. I was under the same conditions” It was great to see the look on that critter’s face. I admire Fuller’s restraint because I would have wanted to throttle them. He was sitting right there as the others were discussing the conditions as if they knew better than someone who was ACTUALLY THERE. Talk about arrogance.

Then she talked to Glenn Beck about his predicting the “coming” Muslim Caliphate a few years back, and how just about every media head pounced on him calling that prediction absolutely ridiculous, calling him a whackjob, etc., and how now they are all choking on their bile. Heh.

Personally, I thought it was a good show last night.


38 posted on 06/19/2014 7:49:15 AM PDT by Shelayne
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To: Aria

If people want Fox to be the Main stream media, they’ll have to take all that goes with it.

Hannity was in that spot, he used to be on with Colmes for balance.

Hannity is fine at what he does, but it is not both sides. He’s good in a later spot.

She’s going to grill.

If anyone expects the cure for all of this leftism is a complete mirror image, they’re wrong.

Conservatives can take the grilling, and the balanced view.

Doesn’t everyone want to know what to say when people blame Bush?

Anyway, the public who relies on headlines, know that the Bushes have been out for SIX years, a\that it was never as bad as this when they were in, and have a feeling that this is not what Bush intended, are going to blame BO for squandering.

They just don’t know it.


39 posted on 06/19/2014 7:49:21 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Iron Munro

RE: There were efforts to make the connection to justify the invasion of Iraq as 9/11 related but, as I recall, none was ever documented as fact.

Well we have one fact — the uncontrollable Abu Al Zarqawi (Who even Osama Bin Ladin personally had to rebuke for beheading Nick Berg on video) was in Iraq and was killed in Iraq.

The question is — was Saddam harboring him in Iraq or did he go to Iraq AFTER Saddam’s fall?


40 posted on 06/19/2014 7:51:17 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Hojczyk

I say let them fight it out for the next 100 years…get our people out now….Announce before hand if any group attacks us we will bomb the country to dirt…women ,children everybody…Like Japan 1945


41 posted on 06/19/2014 7:51:52 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: SeekAndFind

“Kelly’s attitude aside, was Cheney and Bush wrong to invade Iraq?”

They were absolutely right to invade Iraq. With the intel that was coming in, it would have been negligent for any President not to invade Iraq, at that time.

The error was in sticking around to nation build. 250 killed in military phase. 4,200 killed in nation building phase.

The biggest lesson learned is that 1. Some cultures simply aren’t ready to live in constitutional republics, and 2. Nation building is long, ugly and protracted and Democrats will come in and screw it up even worse.


42 posted on 06/19/2014 7:54:51 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Megan “Kelly” is a LEFTIST &%&( that ONLY has an “audience” because HORNY OLD MEN want to HOP IN THE RACK w/ her.


43 posted on 06/19/2014 7:58:57 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I saw that interview last night. Last time I watch that liberal obama-loving blonde twit!


44 posted on 06/19/2014 7:59:39 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment (Proud member of the 48% . . giver not a taker)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
I’m through with Kelly and several other of the Fox newsbabes. I can’t listen to their strident (word for the Day) voices and the way they talk over their guests.

When my 3 boys were growing up they liked to watch Fox News, but they preferred to watch it with the mute button pressed.

45 posted on 06/19/2014 8:01:13 AM PDT by The Duke ("Forgiveness is between them and God, it's my job to arrange the meeting.")
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To: SeekAndFind

If Cheney must apologize, so should ALL the members of Congress who voted for it! Hindsight is 20/20, and the Cheney is being targeted for this crap.


46 posted on 06/19/2014 8:02:47 AM PDT by SgtHooper (This is not my tag!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Bush, Cheney, & Co. were routinely criticized by the Left, in the harshest terms. Obama blamed Bush daily for any & everything. What goes around, comes around.

Cheney had every right to criticize Obama’s many & obvious failures.

I am disappointed in Kelly.

47 posted on 06/19/2014 8:08:49 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

Was the gassing of the Kurds fake too?


48 posted on 06/19/2014 8:10:22 AM PDT by SgtHooper (This is not my tag!)
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To: Graewoulf

Cavuto is always fair and balanced. That’s how he gets so many to come on his show.


49 posted on 06/19/2014 8:15:07 AM PDT by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: secret garden

Ping me the next time that Cavuto DOES NOT trash a guest with the Liberal’s point of view.

BTW, are Neil Cavoto and Mr. Ed from the MSNBC Hit Show “Mr. Ed Show” brothers or just cousins?


50 posted on 06/19/2014 8:23:00 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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