Skip to comments.Lerner e-mails likely gone forever, IRS claims, as hard drive was “thrown away”
Posted on 06/19/2014 8:15:20 AM PDT by chessplayer
The IRS announced last night after a subpoena from House Oversight chair Darrell Issa that Lois Lerners hard drive had been either thrown away or recycled, which means at least for the moment that none of her interagency e-mails can be recovered:
IT experts have weighed in and said yes we can get those emails, said Rep. Charles Boustany (R-La.) earlier Wednesday.
The latest news suggests such professionals may never get the chance to try again and the IRS has even said its criminal investigators who specialize in rebuilding hard drives to recover hidden information from criminals were unable to restore the data back in 2011. But this is only likely to further enrage Republicans, who are fuming over the matter and suspect Washington officials drove the selective scrutiny.
Without backups or the drives, those communications have been lost. Unless Lerner testifies, which she has so far refused to do, or unless the House subpoenas all executive-branch e-mails, theyre likely lost forever.
Keep calling your Reps. The email data, by law, is required to be backed up on redundant servers, and has been, for years. Her computer is not even an issue in this farce.
First it was crashed.
Then reused, now it is “thrown away”.
What next, sold to China?
Found in the bottom of a White House closet with Rose Law Firm records that have curiously been scrubbed?
Much as the Constitution under Obama..
Shredded .. Tossed..
And like leftist rhetoric, recycled.
By the most corrupt incompetent agenda driven adminstration uhhh regime ever.
Turn the drives over to the FBI. Send a FBI IT tech over to discover their data backup.
I used to work for the federal government: they are not completely gone.
This regime was voted in - twice.
And still has a 40% approval rating.
It does not matter if the hard drives were thrown away. The emails will be found on the servers. They don’t throw those away.
If heads start rolling, any IT staff who didn’t backup according to law gets fired, there’s a chance someone down the chain won’t think it’s worth it.
Dibs on the burning torches and pitchfork concession.
“First it was crashed.
Then reused, now it is thrown away.
What next, sold to China?
Found in the bottom of a White House closet with Rose Law Firm records that have curiously been scrubbed?”
This is the Obama administration rubbing our noses in it. They can lie, and the lie can be stupid, it can be changed, it can be anything... and it will be accepted by the msm and the public.
What the Obama admin is really saying is: “Take that conservatives, stick it where the sun don’t shine!”
A war-time House would stop all IRS paychecks until the emails showed up.
It’s like the old style Soviet Union where the leadership lied, obviously lied, changed the lie so often one could tell time by it, and nobody batted an eye.
Because if you said something about it, you had the KGB up in your business over it.
IRS agent: Mr. Leaning Right, you claimed over two billion dollars in work-related deductions last year. Where is the evidence to back that up?
Me: It was on my hard drive, but the drive crashed. I of course didn't back anything up.
IRS agent: You had better get a computer expert to recover that data, and you had better do it fast.
Me: But I threw the hard drive away.
IRS agent: No problem then. Your tax return is accepted. Have a nice day.
IRS to America: “Uh, yeah. The files were lost, no they were thrown away. Also - screw you.”
Congress is in the bag for this admin, most of us already know this by Boehner inactions.
If the average American citizen tried that crap with the IRS, they would be crushed painfully. That’s why you see people scrambling to find 6 year old receipts in a shoebox. “Sorry. Lost that stuff. You can’t do anything” simply will not fly with the IRS. Why should they get a pass when the situation is reversed?
Okay .doesn’t the federal government have a cyber security company hired to prevent this scenario from happening? Issa needs to call them in and see why they didn’t stop this taxpayer-funded security breech from occurring. It’s their job.
I went over to the DUmp (gag) to see what they are saying about the destruction of evidence. Aside from some small posts a few days ago (defending the loss of data as usual and customary)...
They need to change the site name to hypocrite underground.
> IRS has even said its criminal investigators who specialize in rebuilding hard drives to recover hidden information from criminals were unable to restore the data back in 2011
How often does a crash erase/overwrite an entire hard drive? I can understand a few sectors but the whole thing? Seems that would take intentional effort and time.
They are making fools out of this nation of fools.
Nixon was told to burn his White House recordings. He should have.
Watergate pales in insignificance compared to this in-your-face democrat crooks.
The email data, by law, is required to be backed up on redundant servers, and has been, for years.
This admin. doesn’t follow the law.
Your move I$$A. CONgre$$ and the IR$ GE$TAPO. We pay these deceivers why?
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security
Check$ and Balance$ BUMP! $ee $omething, $ay $omething ALERT!
Yeah, that's the ticket!
The hard drive isn’t the issue.
If Person A sends an e-mail to Person B in another company, then the e-mail can be recovered from:
Person A’s computer.
Company A’s server.
Company A’s backup of Person A’s e-mail box.
Company A’s backup of Company A’s server.
E-mail server nodes along the way of transfer from Company A to Company B.
Backups of e-mail server nodes along the way of transfer from Company A to Company B.
Person B’s computer.
Company B’s server.
Company B’s backup of Person B’s e-mail box.
Company B’s backup of Company B’s server.
This idea that somehow an e-mail can be completely lost is ludicrous and any politician who claims it should lose their job for basic stupidity.
As I posted in an earlier thread, the IRS now claims multiple email accounts are gone, 5-6 people in different offices at the IRS. These were all stored on a single hard drive without RAID redundancy in 2009-11? Is this anywhere in a light year of possible?
This odor is ordure!
You would use the law to oppose socialism? But it is upon the law that socialism itself relies. Socialists desire to practice legal plunder, not illegal plunder. Socialists, like all other monopolists, desire to make the law their own weapon. And when once the law is on the side of socialism, how can it be used against socialism? For when plunder is abetted by the law, it does not fear your courts, your gendarmes, and your prisons. Rather, it may call upon them for help.
I cringe when I see “incompetent” still used to describe BO. It’s exactly the opposite! He has been deliberate in tearing down our country. He told us what he was going to do and he’s done a damn good job!
40+ percent underclass takers who only care about the free stuff they can get.
“Lerner emails likely gone forever”
Reminds me of Hillary saying disappointedly “We’ll probably never know what happended to Vince Foster” (so let’s drop it)
I hear ya,, his minions are incompetent and drones, he is conniving, a imam on a mission.
BREAKING NEWS: This just in... the hard drive has been FOUND!
It is somewhere near the Brooklyn Bridge. Don’t know where on the bridge, but now that we know this, we just have to buy the bridge.
Great news! The lost/recycled/thrown-out hard drive with Lerner emails is on the Brooklyn Bridge!
Too bad Romney is such a weak personality, he could’ve stuck with his 47% argument and done just fine
Behind the copier at the Los Alamos Labs.
It does not matter if the hard drives were thrown away. The emails will be found on the servers. They dont throw those away.
What bothers me about that is that there hasn’t been a flood of computer experts claiming they can still be recovered. That tells me they CAN’T be recovered.
This so much bullsh!t that you could fertilize the entire continent of Asia’s fields for decades..................
“Why should they get a pass when the situation is reversed?”
They shouldn’t. At the very least, the VERY least, Lerner should go to jail for the same amount of time as Scooter Libby, and lose her pension.
We have officially crossed over to the point at which we now have the equivalent of a politburo controlling our lives.
We can’t trust anymore that the sanctity of our vote will be protected. We can’t trust that the government will protect us from foreign invasion (the encouragement and non-prosecution of illegal immigration is clearly a form of foreign invasion). We can’t trust that our elected officials will be held to the same standards and laws as the rest of us.
Frankly, we can’t trust anymore that the government will acknowledge and respect our rights of free speech, self-determinism, or ownership of private property. In short we can’t trust anymore that we are truly free in the country that many of us pledged allegiance to in schools across the nation as children.
Your post is the post of the day.
It just goes to show they don't even bother to make a coherent excuse, just any lie they through out will go unchallenged and unreported in the media.
It was placed on a train track, then melted, then thrown into the Marianas Trench but there wasn’t a smidgeon of corruption on it.
It is going to come down to how hard the reformers push back on this. The RINOs are already nodding in agreement that the emails are lost..
The “RINOs”, ie, the GOPe, are as opposed to small-gov’t conservatives as much as any democrat is.
What are the chances? That Lerner sure has good luck. OK folks. Pack it up. The show’s over.
Understood. My point was that the computer is bupkiss in this whole deal. Get the servers.
What’s worse is that it will go unchallenged by American citizens.
In fact this will likely be cheered.
IT people know this is a lie. They may destroy HER hard drive, but those emails are in several other places. Things don’t just disappear once they are put on the Internet.
They think everyone is stupid enough to believe their outlright lies.
Well, it has worked in the past.
It worked with the computer wordprocesser birth certificate.
Con after con after con after con. And they get away with it because they can.