Skip to comments.Lois Lerner Emails: Nothing Digital Ever Dies
Posted on 06/19/2014 8:40:21 AM PDT by KennyEdited on 06/19/2014 8:44:22 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
In 2007, while co-writing a magazine piece with Silicon Valley author and entrepreneur Michael S. Malone on best Information Age practices for politicians, I coined a phrase Malone instantly dubbed the Cannon Codicil.
Postulating that electronic messages, like diamonds, last for forever, Cannons codicil simply holds that Nothing digital ever dies.
Congress should get someone like Hinderaker to consult and sort through this mess. They don't have the knowledge and I'm willing to bet their IT people don't either.
That's part of the fun for them. /S
"There--in yo' face! The administration plays basketball.
This is becoming farcical...are there NO competent people in Congress??? Or are their hands tied somehow?! Get a geek, for heaven's sake, SHEESH!
Unless the IRS servers had multiple simultaneous catastrophic failures, those emails still exist and the IRS is just flat out lying because they KNOW that Lerner’s emails lead all the way to the White House.
It takes quite a bit of tenacity and intelligence to setup an enterprise email solution. I spent over 6 hours setting up Postfix and Dovecot in my home Linux environment to run my own email setup. A robust Exchange environment takes a couple days to configure and test assuming you have all the hardware and networking components in place.
This sort of configuration, a cross-continental government setup with hundreds of nodes and thousands of employees would require an army of IT specialists in networking, servers, storage, and operating systems with several hundred hours of setup, testing, support, administration, etc. I have no doubt in my mind that there are people in government IT who know this is false but value a paycheck over the truth.
“Thrown away” actually means in a top secret, maximum security vault somewhere.
No Leftist would trust such damning evidence to be forever hidden in a publicly accessible landfill or waste containment center.
Throw the ENTIRE leadership of the IRS into the slammer for knowingly destroying evidence....
The next Republican in the WH had better bring a toilet plunger...
This is what the leftist “base” wants.
Stick it to conservatives, YT, etc, and do it in a way that is transparently aggressive and blatant.
Maybe a tea party PAC shoudl raise the dough to setup anyone who can retrieve such infro from the IRS conmputers a lifetime retirement in luxury ie. about 10 million bucks.
Or put a $1,000 bounty of every unique e-mail from Lois Lerner in the time frame the E-mails were supposedly lost...
And add a bonus of $10,000 to every additional 100 e-mails retrived...
What these idiot Republicans do realize, is a long concerted effort was giving to removing all traces by whatever means necessary. The last step was destruction of the physical devices.
That is why they stonewalled, to give them time to clean it up. It may not be gone for good, and some items may turn up but it will ba far in the future. The smoking guns are gone.
It could turn up in a cache somewhere but those are short lived. The repositories are gone.
It is possible to make email messages disappear forever. I say that as one who has configured mail servers to be impervious to computer forensics. Its actually not all that hard though it comes with some risks.
However the government is mandated to keep its records and have backups. This is why the IRS issue stinks.
They are lying, and will get away with it because of a brain-dead ignorant American public and a compliant media.
NSA has all of the emails.
Hinderaker, a founder of the powerlineblog.com, is a very good writer and reporter as well as a lawyer. This statement come from yesterday’s Powerline.
We are fortunate in Minnesota to have him as he also uncovers things in Minnesota politics that are ‘not kosher’.
This is the stuff that leads some to conclude that violence is the only remedy.
Especially if you need those emails to keep your pawns in line.
I could see how some could think that.
Correct-o. One pair of my in-laws are rabid Dems. The guy, although a lazy shirker, does know something about IT. His attitude would be that "of course the emails aren't lost, but this is in a good cause." Then he'd go on about how heartless Republicans are, and how Dems have a heart. And, then he'd check to see what benefits he was eligible for.
JFK thought that, for one...
Those who make non-violent revolution impossible (ie, block all non-violent means of correcting gov’t corruption)
make violent revolution inevitable.
_I’m_ certainly not calling for it, I’m just warning those who are making it inevitable that it is, indeed, inevitable.
> The smoking guns are gone.
Have no doubt that somebody, somewhere, kept a copy for self insurance purpose.
I can just hear the supervisors talking to the IT people ... “Look, but don’t look too hard!”
They got the message!
That would be a real good crisis. What ordinary taxpaying US citizen would object to throwing the entire IRS leadership in jail?
I was put into a situation like this a while back when I was an Exchange administrator. We had an executive who was caught with kiddie porn on his laptop and was summarily fired. Our manager was very good friends with the guy. When HR came around asking for email records, I was put into a situation where my direct manager asked me to “take my time,” while HR was going ballistic over the possibility that the records were “lost.”
We provided a report that showed the record range they wanted was in offsite storage. They requested the backups, and we reanimated the data and provided it to HR. Our manager resigned 2 days later before the bombshell came out that the two of them were running a child pornography website from the corporate network.
Those were an interesting couple of months.
How about a subpoena for all email accounts of everyone Lerner sent an email to, and all those accounts holders that sent an email to Lerner.
There are two copies of every email, one in the originators account, and one in the recipients account. Subpoena the non-Lerner account copies of the emails in question.
Nothing digital ever dies? Try finding a copy or clip of that news coverage story of the first Clinton campaign that included video of Clinton with his hand between the stewardess’ legs. Down the wormhole it went.
If I were Lois Lerner, I would stay far away from Fort Marcy ppark.
That's the problem. We don't know for sure who she sent email to outside of the IRS (although we suspect).
I rather doubt they are totally gone. If true, there is likely a team of savvy geeks who know the truth as well as a “trail” somewhere (work orders etc). Also, highly likely someone nabbed a copy as someone noted below.
It was not suddenly bred.
It will not swiftly abate.
Through the chilled years ahead,
When Time shall count from the date
That the English began to hate.
Congress spent how many billions developing the Obamacare medical exchange websites for the feds and each state. Surely they can find some IT support contractor to do this. Just about every federal installation I’m familiar with has and IT contractor services 24/7.
When I was in private practice our company’s entire network system crashed which held emails and all project files. It cost the company $100,000 and took a month but those guys came in and started from scratch restoring basic services first and the more complex ones came later. WE never lost one file!
The original network was setup by a self professed IT specialist who had started with the company when they first moved to the computer age and the system was developed over a number of years and as the each new version of software came out he would have to figure out his previous mess so it could take the new programming all unbeknownst to management because it was all black box stuff. Then he quit and took a job with the University of Washington and within a month with no one there to keep it together the wheels came off.
Since then I have made it a point to direct my IT staff to develop manuals to prevent this from ever happening again and so they can trace where the problem may occur without having to bring in the outside consultants.
And we get our asses kicked.
Unless the GOP is willing to play hardball and put Lerner and many of her accomplices in jail, then nothing will happen. Nothing may happen even if they do that.
This one of those lies that they think if they tell it long enough through the mouths of enough mindless people like the Senator from Utah then people they hope will believe it.
A former employee found that out the hard way. The IT experts found his deleted emails on our servers. Nothing but porn emails on a government server. Needless to say, he got a #12 boot up his posterior and out the door he went.
Gone in the sense of College transcripts and birth records. When they surface it won’t matter anyway.
[ The next Republican in the WH had better bring a toilet plunger... ]
No No No..... They better call in the local Roto Rooter and if that fails chuck a quarter stick of dynmite down the toilet and run like hell....
Like that one in the last scene of "Raiders of the Lost Ark?"
“The next Republican in the WH had better bring a toilet plunger...”
What on Earth makes you think that another Republican is going to occupy the White House?