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MORE boots: Obama to send 100 Green Berets to Iraq to 'train forces' (addition to 275 Marines)
Daily Mail (UK) ^

Posted on 06/19/2014 10:27:59 AM PDT by dead

Full title: MORE boots on the ground: Obama expected to send 100 Green Berets to Iraq to 'train forces' days after deploying 275 Marines to protect Baghdad embassy

President Barack Obama will announce his intention to send 100 Green Berets into Iraq to help train and advise the Iraqi military this afternoon, a U.S. official told the Associated Press.

The Special Forces will not be there to engage in combat and Obama still has no plans to engage Islamic insurgents in Iraq militarily, AP says.

Obama is expected to make statement on the matter within in the hour after he concludes a meeting with his national security advisers.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2662759/MORE-boots-ground-Obama-expected-send-100-Green-Berets-Iraq-train-forces-days-deploying-275-Marines-protect-Baghdad-embassy.html#ixzz356h2eFEU Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

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The Special Forces will not be there to engage in combat

Free hugs!

1 posted on 06/19/2014 10:27:59 AM PDT by dead
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To: dead

Will the training include the proper way to stack your weapons before running away?


2 posted on 06/19/2014 10:29:50 AM PDT by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: dead

Like that saved Daniel Pearl and Nick Berg from being beheaded with a dull knife


3 posted on 06/19/2014 10:30:22 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: dead

Just like the 200 US Marines sent to Lebanon.


4 posted on 06/19/2014 10:31:22 AM PDT by The Duke ("Forgiveness is between them and God, it's my job to arrange the meeting.")
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To: dead

Your pseudonym pretty much says what my fear is for these 375 members of our armed forces.

Against literally thousands of hostile savages? Really?

Obama is so ficken in over his head.

The problem for these Leftist creatures like Obama, is that they are ignorant, and they only consult with other Leftists who are ignorant. And in this instance you actually have a guy who has members of the Muslim Brotherhood as advisers.

What a cluster blank!


5 posted on 06/19/2014 10:31:43 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: dead

Isn’t that exactly what JFK did at the beginning of the Vietnam Nam debacle? Talk about being cursed to repeat history!


6 posted on 06/19/2014 10:32:20 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: dead

“The Special Forces will not be there to engage in combat.”

Two previous rat presidents, Kennedy and Johnson said the same lies as they sent our spec op guys into Nam.

http://www.historyplace.com/unitedstates/vietnam/index-1961.html

January 20, 1961- John Fitzgerald Kennedy is inaugurated as the 35th U.S. President and declares “...we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, to insure the survival and the success of liberty.” Privately, outgoing President Eisenhower tells him “I think you’re going to have to send troops...” to Southeast Asia.

The youthful Kennedy administration is inexperienced in matters regarding Southeast Asia. Kennedy’s Secretary of Defense, 44-year-old Robert McNamara, along with civilian planners recruited from the academic community, will play a crucial role in deciding White House strategy for Vietnam over the next several years. Under their leadership, the United States will wage a limited war to force a political settlement.

However, the U.S. will be opposed by an enemy dedicated to total military victory “...whatever the sacrifices, however long the struggle...until Vietnam is fully independent and reunified,” as stated by Ho Chi Minh.

May 1961 - Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson visits President Diem in South Vietnam and hails the embattled leader as the ‘Winston Churchill of Asia.’

May 1961 - President Kennedy sends 400 American Green Beret ‘Special Advisors’ to South Vietnam to train South Vietnamese soldiers in methods of ‘counter-insurgency’ in the fight against Viet Cong guerrillas.

The role of the Green Berets soon expands to include the establishment of Civilian Irregular Defense Groups (CIDG) made up of fierce mountain men known as the Montagnards. These groups establish a series of fortified camps strung out along the mountains to thwart infiltration by North Vietnamese.

Fall - The conflict widens as 26,000 Viet Cong launch several successful attacks on South Vietnamese troops. Diem then requests more military aid from the Kennedy administration.

October 1961 - To get a first-hand look at the deteriorating military situation, top Kennedy aides, Maxwell Taylor and Walt Rostow, visit Vietnam. “If Vietnam goes, it will be exceedingly difficult to hold Southeast Asia,” Taylor reports to the President and advises Kennedy to expand the number of U.S. military advisors and to send 8000 combat soldiers.

Defense Secretary McNamara and the Joint Chiefs of Staff recommend instead a massive show of force by sending six divisions (200,000 men) to Vietnam. However, the President decides against sending any combat troops.

October 24, 1961 - On the sixth anniversary of the Republic of South Vietnam, President Kennedy sends a letter to President Diem and pledges “the United States is determined to help Vietnam preserve its independence...”

President Kennedy then sends additional military advisors along with American helicopter units to transport and direct South Vietnamese troops in battle, thus involving Americans in combat operations. Kennedy justifies the expanding U.S. military role as a means “...to prevent a Communist takeover of Vietnam which is in accordance with a policy our government has followed since 1954.” The number of military advisors sent by Kennedy will eventually surpass 16,000.

December 1961 - Viet Cong guerrillas now control much of the countryside in South Vietnam and frequently ambush South Vietnamese troops. The cost to America of maintaining South Vietnam’s sagging 200,000 man army and managing the overall conflict in Vietnam rises to a million dollars per day.


7 posted on 06/19/2014 10:32:23 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Herr Obozo, the Sunni WonDoer, will not divert $'s from his war on Americans to help our Veterans!)
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To: dead

What?? You can’t train troops who turn and run...don’t you know? /sarc


8 posted on 06/19/2014 10:33:00 AM PDT by Banjoguy (The U.S. government is now a criminal enterprise, at war with the population.)
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To: dead
We're gonna train the lads


9 posted on 06/19/2014 10:33:20 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'd rather be a living "gun culture" member than a dead anti-gun candy-ass.)
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To: dead

I thought we already spent years and years training up their forces! I say let them all go back some 1400+ years where they belong.


10 posted on 06/19/2014 10:34:32 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
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To: dead

He got the SEALS killed, now for the Green Berets.


11 posted on 06/19/2014 10:34:36 AM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: dead

Will this be called the Military Assistance Command / Iraq?

Will they form a Studies and Observations Group???

They’re just advisers, after all ... it’s only a police action ...


12 posted on 06/19/2014 10:34:45 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: dead

More hostages to trade for GITMO detainees..


13 posted on 06/19/2014 10:35:02 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: dead

I guess they have done polling to see what number they could use that won’t upset his base. I see 100 is that number.


14 posted on 06/19/2014 10:36:27 AM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11))
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To: txrefugee
Isn’t that exactly what JFK did at the beginning of the Vietnam Nam debacle?

The only difference is that the lap-dogs in the MSM will tell us what a great thing the "Smartest Man ever to hold the office of President" has done here.

15 posted on 06/19/2014 10:37:33 AM PDT by ssaftler (I am both ashamed and afraid of my government, Federal AND State. Local not far behind...)
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To: Starstruck

One of my first thoughts.


16 posted on 06/19/2014 10:38:45 AM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11))
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To: txrefugee
Isn’t that exactly what JFK did at the beginning of the Vietnam Nam debacle?

Yeah sure, but it didn't matter because Uncle Walter helped the Democrats dump 100% of the blame on Nixon and the Republicans and then rode that hobby horse to power for the next thirty years.

They'll do the same this time, too.

17 posted on 06/19/2014 10:38:52 AM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: dead

We spent years ‘training them’ only to have the Iraqis melt away like butter when confronted by ISIS. Not all the Iraqi soldiers were cowards or sellouts, but I hear many of their commanders had abandoned their posts, and there was disorganization throughout the system. If they want to live under the sharp knife of Sharia Law, let them, just do not bring them over here, or imitate their so-called court systems.


18 posted on 06/19/2014 10:39:05 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: dead

Lyndon Baines Obama!


19 posted on 06/19/2014 10:42:30 AM PDT by 230FMJ (...from my cold, dead, fingers.)
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To: DoughtyOne

“Obama is so ficken in over his head.”

I disagree—he knows exactly what Valerie Jarrette wants him to do—serve up the best to the enemy as easy prey.

Don’t forget how he got rid of so many skilled snipers and SEALs.


20 posted on 06/19/2014 10:43:30 AM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: dead

We spent years training the Iraqi army and where did it get us? al-Maliki put his own incompetents in charge based on loyalty rather than ability and the army folded. What are 100 additional trainers supposed to accomplish and with who?


21 posted on 06/19/2014 10:44:21 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: dead

They have to wear sandals while deployed., no boots allowed


22 posted on 06/19/2014 10:44:21 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: dead

**•General David Petraeus says ‘this can’t be U.S. being air-force for Shias’**

And we should take Petraeus at his word because...


23 posted on 06/19/2014 10:45:38 AM PDT by Paulie
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To: 230FMJ

We need a Tonka Toy incident and Obama can really get series.


24 posted on 06/19/2014 10:45:38 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: Mortrey

EXACTLY what I thought! Sitting frikin ducks


25 posted on 06/19/2014 10:45:50 AM PDT by hulagirl (Mother Theresa was right)
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To: Paulie

He has been there when Shiites hit the fan,,


26 posted on 06/19/2014 10:46:33 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: dead

We already spent years with tens of thousands of trainers to train this army. So, how exactly are a few hundred trainers supposed to change anything?


27 posted on 06/19/2014 10:48:34 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: dead

The clown in the White House is sending in troops piecemeal, a recipe for military disaster. One can only hope that the guys can hold off 100,000 screaming Muzzie fanatics. If they cannot hold them off their deaths will be horrific.


28 posted on 06/19/2014 10:54:18 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Mortrey

Even if he does things by intention, he is still in over his head. He’s a clueless idiot. Even if he does things for a purpose different than ours, ultimately it’s because he has been sold a package of 18 month old meat covered in mold.

He’s in over his head. He’s not intelligent enough to understand the end results of his actions.

This guy is ushering in a world where his children will live in extreme danger along with the rest of us.

He’s an imbecile.


29 posted on 06/19/2014 10:56:19 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: txrefugee

“Isn’t that exactly what JFK did at the beginning of the Vietnam Nam debacle?”

Actually, we were there acting as ‘advisors’ prior to JFK, but you are right. It’s looking more and more like that every minute.


30 posted on 06/19/2014 10:58:55 AM PDT by panaxanax
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To: dead

So Obama’a post Bush policies in Iraq have been a failure. He has just admitted that.


31 posted on 06/19/2014 10:59:38 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: dead

My nephew is army special forces. Prayers up!


32 posted on 06/19/2014 11:03:40 AM PDT by PaForBush
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Well to be fair SF has a very multi purposed role of which training locals in situ is a key part. It looks like my brother will be sent if training is their primary focus.


33 posted on 06/19/2014 11:04:50 AM PDT by aft_lizard
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To: dead

Obama-the-undocumented First Moslem, by Pelosi’s perjury
and the Congress’ abdication, backs both Moslem sides
against the Americans he sends in to be killed.


34 posted on 06/19/2014 11:11:24 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: william clark

Same words being used as in the beginning of Vietnam.


35 posted on 06/19/2014 11:12:55 AM PDT by ully2
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To: Diogenesis

I think all Americans should leave. Abandon the Embassy in Baghdad and get out entirely. I’m sorry about the past and American lives lost but this is just foolhardy.


36 posted on 06/19/2014 11:13:37 AM PDT by Sheapdog (Chew the meat, spit out the bones - FUBO - Come and get me)
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To: txrefugee
talk about being cursed to repeat history

How about being consistant in current events? Obama is demanding that Maliki be more inclusive if he wants help. At the same time he's supporting Nazi thugs in Kiev who don't have any interest whatsoever about being inclusive for ethnic Russians in Ukraine.

And MORE regime change?? It hasn't worked real well anywhere. Now's a chance to actually lay down some specific conditions if Maliki gets support. Otherwise, ISIS will end up being fully entrenched in Sunni areas.

what a mess

37 posted on 06/19/2014 11:18:41 AM PDT by grania
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To: Starstruck

Maybe the Marines will be holding umbrellas and not a threat.


38 posted on 06/19/2014 11:38:32 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: dead

Willing to bet that they are there to call in close air support.


39 posted on 06/19/2014 12:08:35 PM PDT by Dogfaced Soldier
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To: dead

All that expense to bring back Bergdahl when they could have left him there to train our enemies.


40 posted on 06/19/2014 12:09:31 PM PDT by bgill
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To: dead

We’ve been ‘training’ the Iraqi national army now for how many years? Now all of the sudden 100 Green Berets on a “training mission” are supposed to stem the tide? Seems like a band-aid on an arterial wound.


41 posted on 06/19/2014 12:10:06 PM PDT by Tallguy
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To: txrefugee

Advisers had been in Vietnam for many years before JFK, in fact even in the 1940s, and it is part of what Army Special Forces does and is doing all over the globe, it was the 16,000 troops that he sent in, that was JFK’s change.


42 posted on 06/19/2014 12:23:21 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: Tallguy

Yeah, but since Obama stated today that we wouldn’t be favoring one Islamic sect over another,

these guys must be there to train both sides.


43 posted on 06/19/2014 12:25:17 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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