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Speak literary Russian or face fine, Muscovites warned
theguardian.com ^ | June 19, 2014 | Shaun Walker

Posted on 06/19/2014 10:52:12 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

In the near future, if two Muscovites go for a biznes-lanch, they could be fined. If they then order a gamburger, they could be fined again. And if they get out their smartfon to check their Feisbuk, there could be serious trouble.

This, at least, is the future envisaged by a new law that would introduce fines for the inappropriate use of foreign loan words in Russian. The draft law was suggested by a group of MPs from the Liberal Democrat party, a nationalist force in parliament and often responsible for scandalous or outlandish parliamentary initiatives.

The law has been redrafted over the past year and will be examined by the Duma next month, after being approved this week by the parliament's culture committee. It proposes fines starting from 2,000 roubles (£34) for individuals, rising to 50,000 roubles (£850) for legal entities using foreign words inappropriately in public.

The law proposes fines for those who "use foreign words and expressions which do not meet the norms of literary Russian and which have commonly used equivalents in literary Russian".

"We are sick of these Americanisms and Anglicisms," said Vladimir Zhirinovsky, the party's leader, when proposing the law last year. "We will make a list of words that are forbidden from use when there are normal Russian words … It should be on the table of every journalist,TV and radio presenter, teacher, professor and writer."

Dmitry Gudkov, one of the few anti-Kremlin MPs still in parliament, told a Russian paper he would not support the bill, and said lawmakers were currently engaged in a "championship of idiotism" to see who could suggest the most ridiculous laws.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; Russia
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1 posted on 06/19/2014 10:52:12 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

It’s about half the Russian language these days

Good Luck


2 posted on 06/19/2014 10:53:15 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: Tailgunner Joe

France tried this too, back in the ‘80s.


3 posted on 06/19/2014 10:54:12 AM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: Regulator
Russians have the best swear words. We should incorporate them.
4 posted on 06/19/2014 10:55:41 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The draft law was suggested by a group of MPs from the Liberal Democrat party,

Nuff said.................

5 posted on 06/19/2014 10:55:46 AM PDT by Red Badger (Soon there will be another American Civil War. Will make the first one seem like a Tea Party........)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
How French of them.

and said lawmakers were currently engaged in a "championship of idiotism" to see who could suggest the most ridiculous laws.

Is this like the World Cup where the best of their legislative idiots will go up against ours in the finals?

6 posted on 06/19/2014 10:57:02 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"championship of idiotism" to see who could suggest the most ridiculous laws".

Same must be going on here in the USA.

7 posted on 06/19/2014 10:57:24 AM PDT by defconw (LUTFA!)
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To: Red Badger

I don’t think those words mean what you think they mean.


8 posted on 06/19/2014 11:00:05 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Steely Tom
France tried this too, back in the ‘80s.

Yes, I remember. How very French of them.

Of course, the language of Russian royalty was French so this approach is not unexpected.

9 posted on 06/19/2014 11:01:18 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: 1rudeboy

Yeah, Vladimir Zhirinovsky... I had wondered what happened to him. Wasn’t he a Fascist or Ultra-nationalist back in the Yeltsin days?


10 posted on 06/19/2014 11:03:52 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Tailgunner Joe
We lived in Japan 1988-2002. I would have been happy if they'd some up with such a law then and there. After expending a great deal of effort learning the language of our host country, I would still occasionally be stumped by foreign loan words which crept into the language.

Bill Clinton gave us SEKUHARA (sexual harassment).

11 posted on 06/19/2014 11:05:13 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Alas Babylon!

The nazi mass murderer Putin is carrying out Zhirinovsky’s nazi agenda.


12 posted on 06/19/2014 11:06:41 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Alas Babylon!

I believe you are right. He was a real thorn in the side to Yeltsin.

CC


13 posted on 06/19/2014 11:08:05 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

In Iraq they’ll cut your head off.


14 posted on 06/19/2014 11:13:10 AM PDT by McGruff (What if we bombed our own citizens?)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
What if they want to hail a такси? Or mosey on down to the кино to see a фильм? Can't eat at a ресторан or even have a бутерброд for lunch!
15 posted on 06/19/2014 11:13:12 AM PDT by Vroomfondel
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To: Tailgunner Joe

PC, it’s not just local any longer.


16 posted on 06/19/2014 11:18:37 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Vroomfondel
I need new glasses. I could have sworn you wrote, "What if they want to hail a такси? Or mosey on down to the кино to see a фильм? Can't eat at a ресторан or even have a бутерброд for lunch!" LOL
17 posted on 06/19/2014 11:19:30 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Vigilanteman
I remember around that time the mileage that the Media got from GHWB & the Bushusuru in Japan…
18 posted on 06/19/2014 11:24:04 AM PDT by mikrofon (Lingo BUMP)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Well I guess I won’t use the Russianism “na levo” any more.


19 posted on 06/19/2014 11:31:29 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: Alas Babylon!

“Yeah, Vladimir Zhirinovsky... I had wondered what happened to him. Wasn’t he a Fascist or Ultra-nationalist back in the Yeltsin days?”

Not Fascist. No, he is a radical hardcore Communist as well as Ultra-nationalist. Call him anything you like, I call him Bad News.


20 posted on 06/19/2014 11:33:17 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Won’t work and anyway it’s irrelevant.

A culture is really it’s DNA:

Look at France vs. Japan.

The first is flooded with aliens and pays up the whazoo to “keep France French” —language cops galore, Quebec same same.

Meanwhile Japan is flooooded with foreign loan words, but regards the 1% foreigner pop of Tokyo as a foreigner flood.

WHICH of the two will remain…?


21 posted on 06/19/2014 11:50:56 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Can’t use “Dick Head” anymore?


22 posted on 06/19/2014 11:59:14 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

One aspect of English has always been to incorporate foreign terms into it. It’s one of the things that makes it “the international language”.


23 posted on 06/19/2014 12:33:45 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: mikrofon

Wasn’t that a Bushnami?


24 posted on 06/19/2014 12:46:39 PM PDT by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.)
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To: Vroomfondel

(wish I had the cyrillic utility....)

I wouldn’t take a `taksi’, I would drive my `avtomovil’. Don’t care for `vodka’ but I do like my `viski’.

Anyway, Zhirinovskii has been nothing but trouble since the USSR fell. Putin I’m sure finds him useful.


25 posted on 06/19/2014 2:02:35 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: elcid1970
(wish I had the cyrillic utility....)

On windows, start → all programs → accessories → system tools → character map, find a font with the characters (times new roman, for example), select your characters, copy, and paste.

Not sure how it works on windows 8...

At home, I have a Cyrillic keyboard layout installed so I just have to alt-shift to get to them. Or alt-space on my Mac.

26 posted on 06/19/2014 2:11:43 PM PDT by Vroomfondel
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