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Presbyterian assembly: Gay marriage is Christian
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 6/19/14 | Jeff Karoub

Posted on 06/19/2014 4:45:11 PM PDT by madprof98

DETROIT — The top legislative body of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) has taken major steps toward recognizing gay marriage.

The General Assembly voted Thursday in favor of redefining Christian marriage in the church constitution as the union of "two people," not just "a man and a woman." The redefinition will take effect only if most of the 172 regional Presbyteries approve it in voting over the next year.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Michigan; US: New York
KEYWORDS: adamandsteve; homosexualagenda; michigan; newyork; pcusa; presbyterians; sin
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Fitting that they met in Detroit, heartland of the left.
1 posted on 06/19/2014 4:45:11 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: madprof98

Whew! I’m glad they sorted that out.


2 posted on 06/19/2014 4:46:54 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: madprof98

Marriage has gone from God’s blessing to none of God’s business.


3 posted on 06/19/2014 4:50:13 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: madprof98

Two and a half millions members in 2000. In 2014, there are 1.9 million members. That says it all.


4 posted on 06/19/2014 4:51:08 PM PDT by Essie
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To: madprof98
The national assembly has tried sell this bill of goods before only to be stymied by the real people of God. We will see if they finally prevail this time. If so, expect a massive realignment of Presbies akin to that of the Lutherans and episkies.
5 posted on 06/19/2014 4:52:31 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: madprof98

They should of had it at Mackinaw Island, where fudge is served daily.


6 posted on 06/19/2014 4:53:13 PM PDT by dragonblustar ( Psalm 103, Psalm 37:7, Ephesians 6:12)
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To: madprof98

I’m sure this will impress the unbelievers and muslims. Awesome witness. What courage.


7 posted on 06/19/2014 4:53:31 PM PDT by ecomcon
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To: madprof98
I got news for Presbyterians or anyone else who think that they can willfully redefine scripture....and it's not pretty.

Revelation 22: 18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

8 posted on 06/19/2014 4:54:24 PM PDT by hecticskeptic
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To: madprof98

PCUSA has been wacked in the head for years.


9 posted on 06/19/2014 4:55:39 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (We need to fundamentally transform RATs lives for their lies.)
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To: madprof98

How many could tell you the gospel that leads to eternal life in that house of pretenders?


10 posted on 06/19/2014 4:56:49 PM PDT by lurk
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To: madprof98

Divinely revealed truths are not determined by majority vote.


11 posted on 06/19/2014 4:57:06 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: madprof98; aposiopetic; rbmillerjr; Lowell1775; JPX2011; NKP_Vet; Jed Eckert; ...

Sola Scriptura strikes again!


12 posted on 06/19/2014 4:58:48 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: madprof98

8 But even if we (or an angel from heaven) should preach a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be condemned to hell! Galatians 1:8


If we know anybody still in PCUSA we need to help convince them to get OUT of that hell-bound outfit ... ASAP!

As if this so-called “church” wasn’t already anti-Christian enough.............with all its anti-semitism krap.......

Genesis 12:1 “Now the LORD said to Abram, “Go forth from your country, And from your relatives And from your father’s house, To the land which I will show you;
2 And I will make you a great nation, And I will bless you, And make your name great; And so you shall be a blessing;
3 And I will bless those who bless you, And the one who curses you I will curse. And in you all the families of the earth will be blessed.”

now it is preaching “gay marriage” !?????

Romans 1: 24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them.


Year in and year out, PCUSA preaches directly against God’s Word....... I wonder if the US Trademark Office can be convinced to “revoke” its legal right to call itself a ‘church?”


13 posted on 06/19/2014 5:01:36 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: madprof98

Actually Detroit is kind of an odd place for it. Detroit is anything but gay friendly. When city council president Charles Pugh was accused of an “inappropriate relationship” with a male high school student, Pugh fled town. It was just a month or so ago when a bunch of Detroit ministers issued a statement opposing gay marriage.

For gay friendly, look to Ann Arbor or Kalamazoo.


14 posted on 06/19/2014 5:05:06 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: madprof98

Sharian law will reverse that decision.. In PakGhanistan


15 posted on 06/19/2014 5:07:53 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: faithhopecharity
Year in and year out, PCUSA preaches directly against God’s Word....... I wonder if the US Trademark Office can be convinced to “revoke” its legal right to call itself a ‘church?”

You've got it backwards. The state loves anything degenerate and anti Christian, therefore PCUSA will be just great, probably become a role model.

Christian churches will have their trademarks revoked. Then their tax exempt status. Then zoning permits tightened. etc. etc.

Eventually we will have state approved and speech monitored "church".

"PCUSA" What a great name for a state approved church!

16 posted on 06/19/2014 5:18:35 PM PDT by ecomcon
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To: madprof98

Matthew 19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?

That’s Jesus discussing marriage and divorce. Clearly this Religion redefining marriage is not Christian since they ignored the Bible and let what’s popular with sinners to define marriage


17 posted on 06/19/2014 5:20:54 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: ecomcon

PCUSA— Politically -Correct United Satanists of America?


18 posted on 06/19/2014 5:21:11 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: Telepathic Intruder

That would make a good bumper sticker.


19 posted on 06/19/2014 5:22:45 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: madprof98

The real world consequences of ‘every man a pope’ theology.


20 posted on 06/19/2014 5:24:36 PM PDT by AHerald ("Do not fear, only believe." - Mark 5:36)
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To: narses
Sola Scriptura strikes again!

No it doesn't. Many of the so called mainline protestant denominations (Presbyterian, Lutheran, Methodist) have been apostate for years. They ceased preaching the truth decades ago. I have met many, and they did not show me any evidence of faith, though there might be a truly saved person in them, I would guess 98% of them are unsaved, Hell bound church members You can not lump them all together. The Navigators and Campus Crusade for Christ are still doing well.

21 posted on 06/19/2014 5:28:51 PM PDT by Mark17 (Rudyard Kipling: Liberals be wary, when the SHTF, The Wrath of the Awakened Saxon will clobber you)
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To: madprof98

Just a note: the Presbyterian Church in America (PCA) is NOT the PCUSA.

PCA is, as far as I know, still a conservative BIBLE based denomination.


22 posted on 06/19/2014 5:30:10 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: madprof98

The reason I left


23 posted on 06/19/2014 5:30:11 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: hinckley buzzard
If so, expect a massive realignment of Presbies akin to that of the Lutherans and episkies.

Realignment has already occurred. It's pretty safe to assume that no one left is worth having.

24 posted on 06/19/2014 5:30:13 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: madprof98

So, are adultery, lying, stealing, murdering, etc. also “Christian”?


25 posted on 06/19/2014 5:32:24 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: narses
Sola Scriptura strikes again!

What an ignorant statement.

(note to moderators - this thread is posted in News, not Religion.)

26 posted on 06/19/2014 5:32:33 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Mark17
Campus Crusade for Christ are still doing well.

You need to keep up with the times. Campus Crusade is no more. It's now the hip, cool CRU'

27 posted on 06/19/2014 5:35:28 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: madprof98

A Great Apostasy.


28 posted on 06/19/2014 5:37:22 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: madprof98

I think they misunderstood the meaning of “being fruitful”.


29 posted on 06/19/2014 5:37:51 PM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: ConservativeInPA
"the union of "two people,"

TWO people? Where the hell did they get THAT magical number?

What so special, and "Christian" about TWO "people" being married?

And would the Presbyterians go absolutely ape$hit if someone suggested that 5 people get married?

Would that be "Christian"?

Would they be willing to die on that hill of TWO "people"?

30 posted on 06/19/2014 5:44:59 PM PDT by boop (I just wanted a President. But I got a rock.)
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To: PAR35

Wrong.


31 posted on 06/19/2014 5:45:20 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: madprof98

At least seven verses of Scripture deal with homosexuality but the Presbys aren’t buying any of them. Wonder what other verses of Scriptures they’re going to ignore.


32 posted on 06/19/2014 5:45:59 PM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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To: madprof98
PC-USA ... pffft.
They don't even have a nodding acquaintance with Christianity.
33 posted on 06/19/2014 5:46:09 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: madprof98
Martin Luther, the "gift" that keeps on giving.

Ping me when the Pope buys in to this heresy.

34 posted on 06/19/2014 5:49:47 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: SoFloFreeper

Yep. Those of us in the PCA are much obliged.


35 posted on 06/19/2014 5:51:29 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: madprof98

Looks like the Presbyterians will be needing to rewrite their own NOT-Holy Bible:

http://www.openbible.info/topics/the_meaning_of_marriage


36 posted on 06/19/2014 6:01:00 PM PDT by Vinylly (?%)
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To: madprof98

Those wild and crazy Presbies!

But they still ban strong drink.


37 posted on 06/19/2014 6:01:36 PM PDT by miserare (2014--The Year We Fight Back!)
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To: madprof98

PCUSA should just be done with it and merge with the Universalist Unitarian church. No use having two organizations teaching the same thing.


38 posted on 06/19/2014 6:05:28 PM PDT by crusadersoldier
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To: FourtySeven

Maybe so. To redefine marriage is basically to take God out of it. True it’s been abused in the past, but that’s no reason to further abuse it.


39 posted on 06/19/2014 6:07:38 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: JudyinCanada

lol......good one.


40 posted on 06/19/2014 6:11:08 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey NSA!)
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To: madprof98

As Luther might say, they’e “The whore church of Satan.”


41 posted on 06/19/2014 6:19:55 PM PDT by polymuser
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To: madprof98

I was a member of the Presbyterian church for a long time until Liberalization started.


42 posted on 06/19/2014 6:23:06 PM PDT by Retired Chemist
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>> You need to keep up with the times. Campus Crusade is no more. It's now the hip, cool CRU <<

Rather bizarre that they get the initials "CRU" out of the words "Campus Crusade for Christ". Seems to me they should abbreviate it as "CCC"

43 posted on 06/19/2014 6:26:04 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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To: Mark17
>> Many of the so called mainline protestant denominations (Presbyterian, Lutheran, Methodist) have been apostate for years. You can not lump them all together. <<

Ironic. "Presbyterian", "Lutherans", "Methodists"... you just "lumped them all together" right before you lectured others not to do so.

As someone else noted on this thread, there many different kinds of "Presbyterians", with the Presbyterian Church in America (PCA) being totally separate from the Presbyterian Church USA. At last count there are at least four or five different types of Lutheran denominations in the United States, and despite them all claiming to be the true successor of Martin Luther's teachings, they all have vastly different beliefs.

44 posted on 06/19/2014 6:30:46 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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To: RginTN

Well Jesus didn’t say anything about incest, pedophilia, bestiality or necrophilia, so they must be OK, right? It’s a race to the bottom for some denominations to see which one first hits on this argument.


45 posted on 06/19/2014 6:33:08 PM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: PAR35

They will always be Campus Crusade to me, no matter what they change the name to. I was mostly associated with the Navigators, much better training. The men who have most inspired me, Dawson Trotman, Bill Bright, Chuck Smith and Charles Stanley. Godly men, all of them.


46 posted on 06/19/2014 6:41:18 PM PDT by Mark17 (Rudyard Kipling: Liberals be wary, when the SHTF, The Wrath of the Awakened Saxon will clobber you)
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To: BillyBoy

I guess it’s from CRUsade.


47 posted on 06/19/2014 6:41:31 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: BillyBoy

CCC is taken.

Catechism of the Catholic Church


48 posted on 06/19/2014 6:54:04 PM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: Mark17
Bill Bright,

PCUSA before it became totally apostate.

49 posted on 06/19/2014 6:55:56 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: madprof98

If you want to know how to tell if a church (denomination) is about to go off the rails, it all starts with denying that Jews are God’s chosen people.

Once you root them out, you are free to define Christianity any way you like.

Anti-semitism is the mark of not being able to read your bible.


50 posted on 06/19/2014 7:02:47 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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