Skip to comments.New Jersey waterways flooded by millions of pounds of chemicals, report says
Posted on 06/19/2014 8:39:20 PM PDT by chessplayer
PAULSBORO Standing in the shadow of the Paulsboro Refining Company and right next to the Delaware River, representatives from Environment New Jersey and Mom's Clean Air Force released a report showing millions of pounds of chemicals have been released into the state's waterways.
Approximately 206 million pounds of toxic chemicals, from ammonia and phenol to zinc, sodium nitrate and hydrogen sulfide, were released into waterways in the United States in 2012, according to the report, with 5.862 million of those pounds being in New Jersey making it the 14th highest in the country.
Maureen Cervantes, a lifelong Paulsboro resident, discussed her personal experiences with environmental problems stemming from pollution in the borough. From breathing problems in her family to destroyed property due to chemical releases, she has seen the issues Paulsboro residents face when it comes to the industry in town.
"I have trees that die, I can't plant things in my backyard, nothing will grow but weeds," she said.
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Why don’t you just go plant a tree, or have relations with it..or something...
Perhaps the EPA doesn’t realize that New Jersey is a state.
There is a lot of heavy industry around Philadelphia. Paulsboro has a lot a tank farms.
Instead they behave no different than the Republicans giving subsidies and tax breaks to the well connected, enacting more legislation and regulations against those who can't fight, and reducing regulation against the rich and powerful that fuel their reelection campaigns.
Obama is a Goldman-Sachs shill. You know it and it must make you very angry and frustrated to see that even when the most perfect, the most liberal, the most compassionate candidate (from your perspective) finally becomes president, even he becomes a pawn of the crony capitalists.
Even Noam Chomsky has disowned the Campaigner-In-Chief. You should to. Free yourself from his spell.
What? You never seen corruption before?
Don’t worry, those plants are staying within EPA guidelines. Our politicians aren’t going to lie to us about something so important?
We have Obama and the EPA, so what went wrong with your liberal fantasy? Sounds like the regulation isn’t working according to this article.
What a joke. Don’t you know the liberals don’t give a damn about the environment? The Democrats are all about money and big business.
Liberals on the bus go “whine whine whine”.
Check your sources.
They don’t call it The Garbage State for nothing.
And I grew up there...
“Just imagine what companies would do if regulations were done away with like so many on the right want.”
Ok DU poster; I’ll answer your question you were given at your last Earth First meeting.
I don’t know of any on the right who want to “do away” with all regulations.
But you probably don’t realize that the EPA is making up random regulations that have nothing to do with any safety issues. The EPA wants to kill the coal industry and are acting to do it. With no votes being taken by our elected representatives; are you in favor of that?
The EPA is turning it’s sights on agriculture next. They are trying to regulate dust being produced by normal field operations such as harvest; are you in favor of that?
And on and on.
Are you in favor of of your President directing his EPA to do huge chunks of things like this outside of the Congressional lawmaking process? By regulatory edict; instead of bring voted on by our elected representatives.
When the weeds stop growing, it’s time to get worried.
A whole lot of it is reported to be dihydrogen monoxide.
Every new environmental regulation offered by the EPA should require the filing of an accompanying Economic Impact Report.
And if you close the plant, how many people will be jobless?
The EPA set the guidelines. The plant is adhering to them.
Industry is power.
I don’t know how things are on the west side of NJ, but on my frequent trips from Maryland to NY City 30 and 40 years ago, I can remember the thick stench of the Jersey Meadows and Secaucus. Haven’t noticed it that much in recent years.
IBTZ. You need to regulate your filthy mouth and quit attacking Conservatives who favor free enterprise.
The market, when it's not hampered by burdensome regulations from the likes of the NLRB, OSHA and the EPA, does just fine with the meddling from the government. Unions and the minimum wage leave corporations no choice but to cut a few small corners here and there. One the alphabet agencies are eliminated and confiscatory taxes abolished, corporations can then become good citizens, just as they were during the Coolidge and Reagan years.
If people were REALLY concerned about the environment, they would want the EPA to relax the rules a bit (like yes, it is okay to drill or mine within 2 miles of a spotted owl’s nest, or your waste water does not need to be cleaner than the naturally mineralized river you are putting it into). This would promote more mining, manufacturing, drilling, etc. here in the U.S. where we have some pretty good rules. And less of it would go to China, Indonesia, etc. where the rules (if any) are really poor.
I used to work in NJ on hazardous waste sites years ago. I recall one EPA mandate was for something like 0.5 parts/million of some substance. Trouble was the labs could only measure to something like 1 ppm!
The EPA is like Unions. The EPA had its day in the seventies cleaning up the rivers, etc. so they would support fisheries, etc.; and the unions helped stop 8 year olds from working 18-hour days. But now they just go too far on everything.
BTW - it is a real struggle to even grow grass on my yard. (All the fir tree needles make it too acidic).
Liberals on the bus go whine whine whine.
Check your sources.
And thats the knee jerk reaction of libs when they see or hear something they don’t like. They say “check your sources.” Greed rules. It’s always been that way. I’m far from being a lefty, but I have the common sense to know that unbridled big business would strip mine every square inch of this country if they could get away with it. They don’t give a rats ass if their own children drink poisoned water or breathe filthy air. You think they care about yours? Theres a reason big business goes to China. They know the Chinese govt doesn’t care if their people don’t have clean water or air.
I just wonder what else you disagree with this administration on? Do you agree that it's ok to use the IRS to go after whatever political party does not agree with the current party in power? Just imagine what parties would do if regulations were done away with like so many on the left want.
Oh - wait.....
I remember the good old days, back when the largest polluter was the US Defense Mapping Agency which dumped thousands of gallons of various inks into the Potomac River every day.
Your very name implies that you tolerate dihydrogen monoxide in the water supply.
A good article on the effects of going “green” by using ethanol.
Corn requires WAY MORE water and fertilizer than other crops. Fertilizer that ends up as unwanted nutrients in the rivers, lakes, and ocean. All sorts of other problems with ethanol of course.
Get out of the Twilight Zone. You sound like a whiney liberal from the 1970’s.
Your a walking talking point of liberal crap. We’ve spent billions upon billions of dollars since those days and regulated the hell out of everything. If you have a problem with “millions of pounds of chemicals” then talk to the bureaucrats.
Or maybe wake up and read the BS. Define “chemicals”. Everything on Earth is made of chemicals.
I bet you’d sign a petition to ban dihydrogen monoxide because trillions of pounds of it are flooding our waterways. And it’s used to produce evil manufactured stuff.
Not only is the leftist who started this thread attacking good Conservatives with potty mouth phrases, but he (presuming chessplayer is that) also used the phrase "greed rules". That's straight of the lexicon of the OWS loonies.
BTW, we already have soul crushing EPA regs up the ying yang. NJ river water should be sparkling clean yet we have this. Seems all your beloved big govt’ policies are letting you down.
And this is new?
BTW, we already have soul crushing EPA regs up the ying yang. NJ river water should be sparkling clean yet we have this.
Regs aren’t the problem. The problem is they aren’t enforced harshly enough. China has anti-pollution regs up the ying yang, but do they enforce them? NO! If the polluters in NJ were fined to the point where it actually hurt them in the wallet, perhaps they would stop. The honchos of these corporations can well afford to stop pollution and still live in the lap of luxury.
How ‘bout a “report” about the millions of turds “flooding” the Rio Grande?
In some States, like Texas, the State covers up findings to pass EPA muster. It isn’t so much from man caused pollution as much as it is naturally occurring arsenic and radiation. The State was caught rounding numbers down.
One of the issues we’ve seen is regulation fostering an environment of lies. Regulations are not an effective method when they are written by politicians who care less about science and more about politics.
in other cases it fosters corruption like when Bush era Oil and Gas regulators were being bought off by industry. My fiance worked with a manager that was involved and had to testify in court over the parties, stripper, orgies, and gifts being lavished on inspectors who looked the other way.
The best system involves smart regulations with input from both industry, citizens, and politicians with a focus on common sense and accountability by all parties. Our current system has no middle ground which is why smart regulation seems like a fantasy. The media is one sided, gov is one sided, business has little ethics, and the citizens get caught in the middle. Either way we continue to lose. Dirty water or less freedom...
I look at the Monsanto case where they essentially poisoned the earth with plastic byproducts then covered it up. How do we encourage business to be honest? Reward them? Shame them with imprisonment and fines? What if the groups that are supposed to hold them accountable are just as crooked?
I LIVE on the Delaware river. It is cleaner now than it has been for 100 years. Routinely swim here. Waterlilies and grass highly visible this time of the year at low tide. Most towns pull their drinking water from the river. Check the facts.
Isn’t the mob known to be strong in those areas? Doesn’t the mob specialize in waste industries? Can it be quite profitable for a truck hired to remove liquid industrial toxins from a business to do so and later that night park alongside a roadside ditch and empty its load?
You posted an article from the Union of Concerned Scientists. A radical leftist environmental group.
Thanks - funny how sometimes the leftists and the conservatives can find common ground some times (I’m thinking of the NSA, no-knock raids, etc.).
But truly - thanks for the info., as they will no doubt try to skew things. But over the years I have been reading about the problems with ethanol corn. It takes more energy to grow and distill the corn than it produces! And it requires a LOT of water (something like 100 gallons of water for one gallon of ethanol - not sure, but it is high! Includes the growing and the processing of it). And of course fields that were once used to grow food are now growing stuff to burn - so our food costs go up.
I was reading an article about the California drought. And then read an article on all of the subsidies so the farmers in CA are expanding their ethanol corn crops (which use tons of water). Crazy.
Here’s an old article from some site put on by MIT regarding water and corn ethanol.
“Ethanol derived from corn consumes up to three times more water than previously thought, according to a new study.
Prior studies have estimated, based on national production averages, that one liter of corn-derived ethanol should require 263 to 784 liters of water to both grow the crop and convert it into fuel. Now, researchers at the University of Minnesota have concluded that the amount of water used in ethanol production varies hugely from state to state, ranging from 5 to 2,138 liters of water per liter of ethanol, depending on regional irrigation needs.”
Let’s be clear, as HereInTheHeartland said, but perhaps emphasized the wrong words, most conservatives are not talking about getting rid of ALL regulation. That’s where you are erring, if I may say so.
Sure there are some extremists on the right who want to get rid of all regulation, but not most. Certainly not the sane ones.
The sane ones recognize the value of some limited regulation. But what we have today is a far cry from that.
So blanket statements like “Conservatives would be fine with big business turning this country into a sludge filled sewer like China if they could.” Are not only inaccurate but counter-productive.
You’re certainly right when you say, “You think big business is your friend? Then why are they working for and helping COMMUNIST China? Its because they couldnt care less about you or the U.S.,,,except for whats in your wallet.”
True conservatism though, at least the one I uphold as a value, isn’t about “big business” and supporting the interests of corporations over individuals.
So be careful to separate conservatism from corporatism. They are two different things.
Enforcing reasonable laws without political kickbacks will clean up things.
Oh, listening to lib/commie propaganda ain't going to clean up a damn thing either.
Get a clue dupe.