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Letís Deal With Reality and Pass Immigration Reform
Politico Magazine ^ | June 19, 2014 | Sheldon G. Adelson

Posted on 06/20/2014 4:28:36 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Radio show hosts and political pundits are suggesting that the primary election defeat of House Majority Leader Eric Cantor is the final nail in the coffin for passing immigration reform in this session of Congress. They surmise that other Republicans will be especially reluctant to tackle the issue for fear of losing political support.

If we are led to believe that the results of a local election with 12 percent voter turnout in a single congressional district (one out of 435) with a mere 65,000 votes cast is all that it takes to disrupt a necessary and important national policy debate, then America is in big trouble—not just on this issue, but on a whole range of issues.

I certainly hope that is not the case.

As a Republican, it’s my view that efforts to complete immigration reform should be led by our party. Some on the outer fringes of the GOP may disagree, but the truth is we are humans first and partisans second. Frankly, the Democrats don’t have a monopoly on having hearts.

While I do not practice or promote illegal behavior, the reality is that 11 million illegal immigrants are currently in this country. Let’s face it, the United States does not have a process—real or imaginable—to deport 11 million people from within our borders. Those who favor the deportation of every person here illegally must understand that this position simply is not realistic. There is no wave of a magic wand that could accomplish such a task. Nor should there be....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; dreamers; gop; immigration
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Yes, that Sheldon Adelson
1 posted on 06/20/2014 4:28:37 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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let’s deal with reality

there is a reason for immigration laws

don’t come here illegally


2 posted on 06/20/2014 4:32:07 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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While I do not practice or promote illegal behavior,

Past and recent history shows that promoting amnesty promotes illegal behavior.

3 posted on 06/20/2014 4:32:40 AM PDT by dirtboy
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Hey Sheldon. Let’s just follow the rules we have now and start sending them back. Others will leave on their own.


4 posted on 06/20/2014 4:35:44 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Progressive is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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You can keep your Country. Period.

You can keep your jobs. Period.

Actually this reminds me exactly of the discussion before ramming 0bamacare thru.


5 posted on 06/20/2014 4:37:04 AM PDT by Principled (Obama: Unblemished by success.)
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I guess he needs a bunch of immigrants willing to work in his casinos for low wages. What an @sshole.


6 posted on 06/20/2014 4:37:34 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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Imagine. Condoning lawlessness and declaring himself a Republican in the same sentence. If that is the case, then there really isn’t any difference between Democrats and Republicans, is there?

The two excuses: 1) we’re all humans here, and 2) there simply isn’t a process to deport 11 million people are ludicrous.

“We’re all humans here...” is just an excuse for “I want to take your rights and sovereignty away so I can FEEL better,” and a willful attempt irreparably harm our own support systems.

And, as far as no system to deport 11 million illegals goes, there was a system to allow them in, it is incumbent to reverse that system, prevent more entry, and to prosecute those who hire and support the illegals as well as completely stopping entitlements to them. That done, they will self-deport.


7 posted on 06/20/2014 4:39:29 AM PDT by Gaffer
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No surprise here. Of course he’s for cheap labor.


8 posted on 06/20/2014 4:39:54 AM PDT by Wolfie
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The problem is well analyzed and noted. Unfortunately, the treacherous tyrant in the White House will not enforce any laws he deems unacceptable.

Until he is gone or perhaps exiled, the piling on of a new law serves no useful purpose.


9 posted on 06/20/2014 4:41:28 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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That's exactly right. There's no way to prevent every crime, but that doesn't stop the police from arresting criminals.

The U.S. doesn't need to deport 11 million people. Simply deport them as the opportunity arises, and make sure the others are treated appropriately under the law. For years, my suggestion has been that at a bare minimum: (1) illegal immigrants charged with crimes should be subject to military trials as invaders, not criminal trials in U.S. courts; and (2) illegal immigrants should have no standing in the civil courts of this country (i.e., they can't file civil lawsuits and they are subject to default judgments if they are the defendants in civil lawsuits).

10 posted on 06/20/2014 4:42:23 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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So Sheldon, you’re willing to kill the culture?

It’s already on life-support, but now you want to pull the plug? Damn RINO pig!

My mother (Spanish born, raised in Mexico) escaped the Socialist & corrupt to the core $hithole that México is. She hated that culture, she hated the corruption, she despised the ineptness of just getting anybody to do anything (everything moves slow)-—oh but they work sooooo hard right?

Idiots like you want to bring this culture, that so many Cubans and other Hispanics have run away from right here. Once America is gone it’s not coming back. These new “republicans” that you want won’t ever be conservative—they want their freebees and stuff. That’s it!

Cicero was right about the enemy within the wall being more dangerous. You, and every RINO in the Senate & House are more dangerous than Al Qaeda could ever be.


11 posted on 06/20/2014 4:50:55 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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Let’s Deal With Reality and Pass Immigration Reform

Let's deal with reality and call immigration reform what it really is, amnesty -- a reward for lawbreakers, a grab for cheap votes, a grab for slave labor, a grab for people who will support political corruption and Big Government.

12 posted on 06/20/2014 4:51:32 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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13 posted on 06/20/2014 4:52:45 AM PDT by Maceman
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Let’s face it, the United States does not have a process—real or imaginable—to deport 11 million people from within our borders.

But we can send the National Guard to Iraq and Afghanistan and try to build democracies among Muslims. Why not put the National Guard on our own border? Or start flying Military transports full of the children down to Central America?

14 posted on 06/20/2014 4:53:22 AM PDT by MulberryDraw (Repeal it.)
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First Rupert Murdoch, now Sheldon Adelson. Sheesh. They are really getting desperate now that they’re losing this battle.


15 posted on 06/20/2014 4:54:20 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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Lets deal with reality, weigh all the facts...give it a lot of thought....consider all the alternatives.... AND DECLARE WAR ON MEXICO.!!
16 posted on 06/20/2014 5:01:44 AM PDT by unread (Rescind the 17th. Amendment...bring the power BACK to the states...!)
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Hmm? Deport 11 million people? Why?

Probably could do everything needed with laws already on the books. If you wanted to be especially kind, you could give a bit of warning beforehand, but in essence, you simply use existing fines against any company who hires illegal aliens. You use existing penalties for those who fail to report salaries and pay payroll taxes. You use existing rules that forbid conducting a business as an illegal alien.

You use all those agents who were hired to go annoy Americans over PelosiCare, and you use them to shut down hundreds of thousands of gardening businesses, construction subcontractors, cleaning subcontractors, etc. You send agents into the swap meets and shut down those who don't pay taxes on sales, or if the state collects sales taxes, who fail to pay sales taxes.

That 11 million (which is likely half the actual number) will quickly dwindle down to 5 million in just a couple years or so. But don't be overly concerned about those 5 million, likely they will have already started the process of dealing with their legal status - again, mostly using existing laws.

Amnesty has been tried, it didn't solve the problem, it created a bigger problem and even more illegals who flaunted their status. Thousands of Americans have been killed since the last round of amnesty by illegals. Millions have had their jobs affected by illegals. Millions have paid more for homes because of the illegals, millions have paid far more for their insurance because of illegals.

Amnesty isn't the solution - less than half of those who qualified for amnesty never even bothered to start the process. Why bother? If you do, you have to pay money, spend time, then pay taxes, then pay for insurance, then pay for registrations for cars and payroll taxes and sales taxes and everything else.

Let's take for example Jose. He's run a gardening business maintaining commercial and city greenspace landscape for the past 25 years. His yearly commercial contracts are worth close to a million dollars, and he pays 25 people to handle those contracts and also residential service. He has no worry about anyone challenging his contracts, because anyone who did would have to have worker's comp insurance, pay payroll taxes, pay taxes on their profits, pay sales taxes on their equipment, pay property taxes on the tools used for their trade. Worst that Jose has to bother with is a quick stop at a payphone to report an employee to ICE if they start to give him hassles for anything.

There are tens of thousands of Jose's out there. They are the engine of the underground economy. Jose's brother runs a construction firm which handles framing contracts. His cousin runs a firm that handles concrete forms for freeway and parking lot construction, another cousin handles subcontracts for workman's comp claims. A niece owns a nice chain of liquor stores. They pay cash for their purchases, and constantly evade taxes and fees that competing businesses must pay.

Millions of jobs, big and small, that could be opened up for, oh gosh, you know, those tens of millions of Americans who would like to find a job. Millions of entry level jobs which our youth are locked out of. Millions of Americans who find themselves at a disadvantage in the job market because they might lack the skills at speaking Spanish, Mandarin, Portuguese or other language requirements to speak to the mostly illegal staff or subcontractors.

And anyone who actually, seriously intends on enforcing the existing laws will actually pick up that vaunted ‘Hispanic’ vote. Because THAT vote is the one that is proud to be American, who is sick and tired of explaining to the counter worker that no, they don't speak Spanish, don't need a translator, don't need Spanish forms. Who are tired of pressing 1 for English. And who will most directly benefit from the first wave of actual enforcement of immigration laws.

17 posted on 06/20/2014 5:05:36 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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Let’s Deal With Reality and Pass Immigration Reform

Absolutely...100% border security by the military and no more foreign immigration until 2025!!!

18 posted on 06/20/2014 5:16:04 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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Outstanding post !


19 posted on 06/20/2014 5:18:11 AM PDT by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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“Let’s face it, the United States does not have a process—real or imaginable—to deport 11 million people from within our borders.”

Paging Ray Nagin, Ray Nagin please pick up the white courtesy phone. It’s the bus companies.


20 posted on 06/20/2014 5:19:17 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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