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Before the tea party, the GOP was actually getting more moderate
washingtonpost.com ^ | 6/17/14 | Aaron Blake

Posted on 06/20/2014 5:12:31 AM PDT by cotton1706

The Republican Party — and both parties, really — have gotten more extreme in recent years. Everyone knows this.

What many people don't know is that, for the GOP, it wasn't a linear move.

As the below chart from the Pew Research Center shows, Republicans in the late 1990s and early 2000s actually appeared to move away from the far right portion of the political spectrum and toward moderation.

While 13 percent of people registered as "consistent conservatives" in 1994 and 20 percent claim that mantle today, the number fitting that description actually dipped down to 6 percent in 2004 — about one-third of where it is today.

And while 45 percent of Republicans were at least "mostly conservative" in 1994 and 53 percent fit that description today, that number dipped down to 31 percent in 2004.

Those are pretty big dips.

So what happened around 2004? Well, for starters, we're guessing a lot of it has to do with the fact that the GOP wasn't the opposition party. At the time, they were in the middle of the George W. Bush presidency and held both the House and Senate as well.

But Democrats don't show any similar differences between when they have been in power and when they haven't. Indeed, their progression toward the political extreme has been very consistent over the past 20 years. (It's also possible that the two parties simply adjust to being out of power in different ways.)

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections

1 posted on 06/20/2014 5:12:32 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

Look at the chart. Democrats getting progressively liberal while republicans for a while go along with with liberal tide.

That’s how we ended up with the likes of Lisa Murkowski, Lamar Alexander, Lindsey Graham, Bob Corker, Arlen Specter, Mel Martinez, etc.


2 posted on 06/20/2014 5:13:58 AM PDT by cotton1706 (ThisRepublic.net)
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To: cotton1706

It stands to reason that the more one side wants to plunder a group of folks through the gov’t,

the more opposed the other side is going to get to that plundering.


3 posted on 06/20/2014 5:14:04 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: cotton1706
Before the tea party, the GOP was actually getting more moderate

Before Obama, so were the Democrats.

4 posted on 06/20/2014 5:15:03 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: cotton1706

They’re not becoming more moderate. They’re becoming more extremely Liberal. You can not tell me taking on massive amount of debt and massive spending is considered a “moderate” position. And anyone who want to balance the budget is an extremist position


5 posted on 06/20/2014 5:17:25 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: cotton1706
Before the tea party, the GOP was actually getting more moderate

If by "moderate", he means "surrendering to the Democrat agenda", then yes, he's right

... which is, of course, the whole reason The Tea Party came into being!


6 posted on 06/20/2014 5:17:40 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (Congrats Spurs, #5 !!)
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To: cotton1706

“Before the tea party, the GOP was actually getting more moderate”
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So...what is good about that?...NOTHING


7 posted on 06/20/2014 5:19:50 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: cotton1706
Some contributing factors to the GOP becoming overall more conservative:

1. The rise of conservative talk radio

2. The tsunami of online conservative news sources

3. Fox News

4. Realization that the GOP was determined to grow government at as fast a pace as RATS.

8 posted on 06/20/2014 5:22:11 AM PDT by randita
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To: cotton1706

Meaningless. I’d like to see a multiple choice poll to define what liberal and conservative actually mean.


9 posted on 06/20/2014 5:23:42 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: cotton1706
Did this guy just admit the democrat party is becoming more extreme?

There's really no way to qualify this his point unless he defines 'liberal'. Once that is honestly done readers will conclude that the GOP's alleged U-turn would be a very good thing.

10 posted on 06/20/2014 5:24:01 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: cotton1706

See my tag line and do your own homework on the Pubbies.

They’ve been on the same team for the past 100 years or so playing the ends (rich and poor) against the middle class.

Collectivism only benefits the rich and the poor until middle class runs out of money.


11 posted on 06/20/2014 5:24:57 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: cotton1706
efore the tea party, the GOP was actually getting more moderate

That's why there is a Tea Party. We don't want 'moderate' statists.

12 posted on 06/20/2014 5:26:43 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: cotton1706

I love the spin in these stories. How is it not radical and extreme to run trillion dollar deficits? How is it not radical and extreme to enact new budget busting entitlements that are going to bankrupt us? And conversely, how is it extreme to say we have to live within our means and cut spending to match revenue just like any other family does?


13 posted on 06/20/2014 5:27:03 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: cotton1706

Translation: before the Tea Party shored it up, the wall of sanity was starting to crumble.


14 posted on 06/20/2014 5:30:08 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: cotton1706
"The Republican Party — and both parties, really — have gotten more extreme in recent years. Everyone knows this.

BS. There isn't a bit of difference between the Tea Party agenda and Ronald Reagan's platform.

15 posted on 06/20/2014 5:31:52 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: cotton1706

yep, both parties were moving left before


16 posted on 06/20/2014 5:32:07 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: cotton1706

When the media defines “moderate”, what they mean is “more Leftist like me”.


17 posted on 06/20/2014 5:39:55 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: cotton1706
Well, yeah.

That's why the TEA party was necessary.

18 posted on 06/20/2014 5:39:56 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: skeeter

Yes, yes he did.

What we see here is that every action provokes an equal opposite reaction.

Dems became more extreme. When they got into power rather than moderate and move to govern from the center they used their new found control to visciously implement their extremism.

The belief that Conservatives needed to make a stand and fight back was the driving force behind the Tea Party.


19 posted on 06/20/2014 5:45:53 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Truer words never have been spoken on that note my friend.

Everyone but true ‘republicans’ (in the classical sense of the word) hates the middle class: tyrants, kings, Councils, politburos, warlords, etc.


20 posted on 06/20/2014 5:46:21 AM PDT by Individual Rights in NJ (I don't even know what to say anymore..)
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To: cotton1706

worthless d.c. post is happy as long as pubbies go along with ALL the libs crap.
Course it NEVER goes the other way where the libs go for a conservative anything.


21 posted on 06/20/2014 5:48:19 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: tanknetter
What we see here is that every action provokes an equal opposite reaction.

Its almost funny how hard the writer tried to ignore the obvious connection.

22 posted on 06/20/2014 5:54:03 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: cotton1706

Good thing the TEA Party woke up the sleeping Republicans on their way to the Worker’s Paradise”


23 posted on 06/20/2014 5:54:44 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: PATRIOT1876

Dems made the Blue Dog Dems an extinct breed


24 posted on 06/20/2014 6:05:06 AM PDT by Zenjitsuman (New Boss Nancy Pelosi)
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To: cotton1706

Well heck yeah. Why do you think the Tea Party came to exist?


25 posted on 06/20/2014 6:07:32 AM PDT by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: cotton1706
Before the tea party, the GOP was actually getting more moderate

Well there's a Duh! comment if I ever read one.

Before the American revolution, England's power in the colonies was actually increasing.

Before the girl went on a diet, she had actually been gaining weight.

26 posted on 06/20/2014 6:08:49 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: cotton1706

I find the entire notion of “moderate” to be wholly despicable.


27 posted on 06/20/2014 6:10:41 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: cotton1706

Duh, why do you think there’s a tea party?


28 posted on 06/20/2014 6:12:13 AM PDT by DManA
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To: cotton1706

By “moderate” I think he means further left - for both Democrats and ‘Pubbies.


29 posted on 06/20/2014 6:17:43 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: cotton1706

Obama has taken the Democrats to the Left by 8% points, while the TEA Party has taken Republicans to the Right by only 3%. So the headline should read: “Obama Takes Democrats to the Left.” Another example of Washington Post bias.


30 posted on 06/20/2014 6:18:17 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: cotton1706

The dream of the GOPe is to be indistinguishable from the Democrats.


31 posted on 06/20/2014 6:21:00 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: cotton1706
...Before the tea party, the GOP was actually getting more moderate liberal
32 posted on 06/20/2014 6:21:15 AM PDT by bill1952 (taxes don't hurt the rich, they keep YOU from becoming rich.)
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To: cotton1706

You May Be A member Of THE EVIL FAR RIGHT if -

You believe the US Constitution means what it says and only what it says

You are a patriot and love America

You believe in GOD

You believe that homosexual sex, pedophilia, pederasty and beastiality are unnatural acts

You believe that a true marriage can only be between a man and woman - not man and man or woman and woman

You believe the laws of the nation should be enforced as written

You believe in equal treatment for all

You believe it is immoral for the government to extort money from one person to give to another able bodied person


33 posted on 06/20/2014 6:23:08 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The Obamas' Black skin has morphed into Teflon thanks to the Obama Media)
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To: ConservativeDude; cotton1706; circlecity; SampleMan
You have to look at this as a sequence of events.

It begins in 1986 when moderate democrat Joe Lieberman formed the DLC under the premise that if the democrat party kept nominating leftwing populist candidates like Walter Mondale to run against moderate republicans like Reagan, the dems could never win the presidency.

Bill Clinton became head of DLC after Lieberman which he rode to the Presidency and would be known as the 3rd way compromising New Democrat willing to cut a deal with the moderate Main Street republicans. Clinton infuriated the left wing because of his involvement in NAFTA and Welfare Reform so the left wing began calling the DLC the republican wing of the democrat party.

Then DLCer Al Gore won the dem nomination and had DLCer Lieberman as veep.

Karl Rove invented the term Compassionate Conservative that Bush would use to try to push Gore off of the center.

But the left prevailed. Leftwinger Ralph Nader syphoned 80, 000 votes away from Gore in Florida, allowing Bush to carry the state with 700 votes and become Prez.

Then in 2008, Obama campaigned to the left of Hillary and the leftwing loved him, but after becoming prez, Obama became more centrist than Hillary, so now the leftwing detests Obama not just because he is moderate but also because he lied to them.

Now, faced with the prospect of Hillary winning the dem nomination, the leftwing is agitating for leftwing Mondale democrat Elizabeth Warren to challenge Hillary for the nomination.

34 posted on 06/20/2014 6:36:51 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

Nice analysis, but Obama is not more centrist than Hillary.


35 posted on 06/20/2014 6:59:06 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Ben Ficklin

Obama became more centrist than Hillary”

scary


36 posted on 06/20/2014 7:05:56 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: dead
Obama has been more centrist than Hillary, in 2009/2010 and 2013/2014.

In 2011 and 2012 he moved to the left for re-election purposes.

37 posted on 06/20/2014 7:06:44 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Cincinatus
Before Obama, so were the Democrats.

I don't think that's true in any way. Clinton was good at pretending he was moderate, and had the good sense to act it out well after the debacle of Hillarycare.

The unfortunate truth is he grew the government big time while claiming the era of it was over, he ratcheted every part of the debate to the left, and never did anything that would hurt the radical leftist cause.

He more or less instituted the deep drift to the left in all things, and solidified the totalitarian leftist sense of entitlement in the bureaucracies. the bamster simply continued the march off the cliff, but was set up well by the Clinton machine.

38 posted on 06/20/2014 7:14:23 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: cotton1706
The idea that the Reagan policies were "extreme" is the premise that allows this guy to write this bilge.

The GOP has drifted to the left, not become more conservative, there are zero examples of going farther to the right than Reagan did. Lest we forget, the Reagan presidency brought unprecedented success to America in terms of influence, a strong economy, and a populace that lived the American dream more successfully than ever before. Yep, so "extreme".

On the other hand, beginning with the Clinton machine, the dems have moved further to the left every year, to the point now they're entirely immersed in the politics of totalitarianism. They think they're so right, they really believe they ought to be able to do anything they want with impunity, without checks, without balances and without shame believe their ideas are so good that the ends justify the means.

39 posted on 06/20/2014 7:25:01 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: cotton1706

The title should be Bolshecrats becoming more Stalinist, Republicans becoming less.


40 posted on 06/20/2014 7:28:32 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: Lakeshark

Clinton signed the balanced budgets that the GOP Congress passed. As you will soon see, Obama will not do that with legislation that the new GOP Congress to take office next year will pass.


41 posted on 06/20/2014 7:37:23 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: Cincinatus
He only did that after ratcheting spending up to the point he knew would eventually break the agreement.

It did.

He was good at pretending, he just did what was politically expedient to keep up the pretense.

I'm not saying the bamster isn't worse, he's far worse, but he's standing on the Clinton foundation. Clinton moved the debate so far to the left that they can now do almost anything with impunity.

42 posted on 06/20/2014 7:50:14 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: cotton1706
As the below chart from the Pew Research Center shows, Republicans in the late 1990s and early 2000s actually appeared to move away from the far right portion of the political spectrum and toward moderation.

And that got us Barack Hussein Obama.

43 posted on 06/20/2014 8:14:41 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: cotton1706
Before the tea party, the GOP was actually getting more moderate

Well, duh!

44 posted on 06/20/2014 10:37:27 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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