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Tea party Republican breaks through to House GOP leadership
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | 6/19/2014 | Francine Kiefer

Posted on 06/20/2014 5:15:33 AM PDT by stevie_d_64

Now they have it. Now tea party-backers finally have a strong conservative in the Republican leadership of the GOP-controlled House: Rep. Steve Scalise of Louisiana, who was elected by party members on Thursday to the No. 3 job in the leadership.

The Louisianan will take the position of whip, making him responsible for corralling votes in order to pass legislation. He fills the slot left vacant by Rep. Kevin McCarthy of California, who was elected – and elevated – to the No. 2 job of majority leader, who decides what legislation comes to a vote.

The changes were triggered by majority leader Eric Cantor’s stunning defeat to a tea party favorite in his June 10 primary in Virginia. Mr. Cantor then announced he would resign his leadership position on July 31

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: leadership; majoritywhip; party; tea; teaparty; whip

1 posted on 06/20/2014 5:15:33 AM PDT by stevie_d_64
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To: stevie_d_64

I am suspicious. Since when (lately) would the Elite put a strong conservative Republican in such a position?


2 posted on 06/20/2014 5:18:53 AM PDT by RummyChick
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With a man who is a Southerner and a conservative as part of the leadership, “we’re in afterglow,” says Rep. Joe Barton of Texas, a member of the Republican Study Committee, a caucus of 176 conservative Republicans. Scalise chairs the committee, which includes tea party flag bearers.

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Call me a poor example of an grammar “English” expert...

But the quotation is amazingly surgical in this particular snippet of the article...Barton only said “we’re in afterglow” (whatever the heck that means...Not what it appears the author is trying to imply with their version of “context” before Barton’s quote”...

This was just one of the small things which say a lot in this article...

I still feel a sense of sour grapes among the GOPe leadership for losing one of their guys...Especially to one of those damn Tea Party activists...

HOW DARE THEY QUESTION OUR AUTHORITY!!!

/sarc and scorn to the GOPe’s


3 posted on 06/20/2014 5:21:06 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Will work for a new Kidney...)
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To: stevie_d_64

From other threads about Scalise he isn’t a conservative.


4 posted on 06/20/2014 5:22:54 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: RummyChick; All

We will see when they put a GOPe into the “Majority Leader” position...This is just the “whip”...

I’m actually thinking Hensarling, not that Iam partial to him, but he has proven himself in the last few years to be skirting the edge of GOPe and just being from Texas, for the top republican position...

I’m betting he won’t get it, and we’ll get a balance to counter the “whip’s” position...Kinda cancels him out...

We will see...


5 posted on 06/20/2014 5:24:09 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Will work for a new Kidney...)
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To: RummyChick

I believe that Marlin Stutzman of Illinois was the rep for the Tea Party-inclined. Roskam represented the GOP-E. Scalise is an actual conservative, but chummy with Boehner, so he might be considered something of a compromise. It’s a small but serious step.


6 posted on 06/20/2014 5:25:21 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: stevie_d_64

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/for-tea-party-republican-whip-race-is-best-shot-at-house-leadership-role/2014/06/15/3e4206c0-f4a7-11e3-8f20-f3a5fed7f3c4_story.html

Jim Jordan, “tea party leader”, wanted someone else


7 posted on 06/20/2014 5:25:42 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: stevie_d_64

The Whip is a pretty important position. Well, at least one would think so if you watch House of Cards.


8 posted on 06/20/2014 5:27:38 AM PDT by RummyChick
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“The whip is somebody who has to get to know everybody, and work with everybody,” says Ray Smock, a former House historian who now directs the Robert C. Byrd Center for Legislative Studies at Shepherd University in West Virginia. “Given the style of the tea party, to be independent and buck authority and buck the establishment, it makes me wonder how effective any tea party candidate would be in that position.”

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“...the Robert C. Byrd Center for Legislative Studies...”

[/rolls eyes back into normal position]

“I would like to talk to you all about my dog...” (Senator Byrd, senate filibuster a while back)


9 posted on 06/20/2014 5:29:25 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Will work for a new Kidney...)
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To: GOPJ; sickoflibs; Jane Long; TADSLOS; ken5050
After his stunning loss to a Tea Party fave, the showboating Cantor went to the mic, and announced he would resign his leadership position.

We can all thank FReeper Jane Long for Cantor's quick exit. Jane called his office and cued him in: "The voters said 'Get Out.' "

Beautiful.

10 posted on 06/20/2014 5:30:34 AM PDT by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: stevie_d_64
I view Scalise as a solid conservative, hope he doesn't get *Boehnerized* with Potomac fever.

Could be he was just a crumb tossed to tea party conservatives, while Boehner, McCarthy and Rinos will work to minimize his influence, time will tell.

11 posted on 06/20/2014 5:35:19 AM PDT by The Cajun (tea party!!!, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert......Nuff said.)
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To: RummyChick

The GOPe has to do something to corral the conservatives. They probably figure on co-opting one with credibility among the ‘troublemakers’ into their club.


12 posted on 06/20/2014 5:37:33 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: stevie_d_64

LMAO, stevie..


13 posted on 06/20/2014 5:39:29 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: skeeter
The GOPe has to do something to corral the conservatives. They probably figure on co-opting one with credibility among the ‘troublemakers’ into their club.

Count on it.

14 posted on 06/20/2014 5:40:59 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: skeeter

See definingthemachine.com

to see what is going to happen to him.

They step into congress and owe 6 figures in “party dues”, which they have to pay or they will be relegated to obscurity.

Of course, these “dues” can be paid by doing certain behaviors that support the elite part of the party.


15 posted on 06/20/2014 5:42:33 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: RummyChick

Trade-off? To get McCarthy instead of Labrador?


16 posted on 06/20/2014 5:44:22 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: Jack Hydrazine; All

I tend to have my guard up with anyone in the gaggle of clowns up there...

WE will see how bad we get screwed after this next election...

I really believe we are not going to see much change towards a more unapologetic, more actual conservatism in the House during the next Congress...

That’s a big “if”, if republicans manage to hang onto it...

Anything can happen, and be pounced upon, by the “progressive narratives” passing as “news networks” these days...

That is one of the biggest hills we gotta hump if a conservative is ever going to get anywhere in politics these days...Not to mention that you’ll have to be fighting your own political party for any traction, or approval to even be considered for representation, or leadership positions...

Whenever I see, or hear, someone say, “we need to change”...I try to correct the statement with this one...

“We do not NEED change...We need to RETURN to those core values of conservatism, and be extremely unapologetic about it!!!”

I feel this is all going to lead to some real speedbumps along the way to the inevitable collapse of the republican party as a viable “political” mechanism to stave off the progressive/socialist movement in this country...

Just my opinion...


17 posted on 06/20/2014 5:45:08 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Will work for a new Kidney...)
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To: stevie_d_64

color me SKEPTICAL of anything any congress critter does at this point.


18 posted on 06/20/2014 5:46:43 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: stevie_d_64

Although Scalise might be a Tea Party guy, bet here is that he’s been turned to the dark side. 3 to 1 he’s turned.


19 posted on 06/20/2014 5:54:52 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: MrB; All

You know, you bring up, publically, something that is an excellent point...

I ran for a senior leadership position in the Texas GOP recently...Due to health reasons I had to back out before the convention because it would have been unfair to the district if I was unable to do what was needed in that position because of that affliction...I certainly do not anticipate being out of the mix for long though...

I always had an aversion to the implied legacy of these positions as a fundraising mechanism, that you were expected to raise a “certain amount” of money per year to the state parties coffers...

Sure, I could have supported that (in my own way and fashion), but as an expectation by the “group” (and the elites in that party) and these “leaders”, it kinda rubbed me raw...

It is symptomatic of the bigger problem these days all the way up and down the political party apparatus...

When you spend too much time worrying about your position and its implied obligations, non binding of course, the message that IS supposed to resonate to people who may very well be aligned with you philosophically, you start to lose people...

Whereas the political opposition, feeds off of emotional and physical support in the community, something the republican party is losing at an exponential rate, despite the current political/constituent temperature across the country...

I find it to be a challenge that is hard to defeat, or at the very least put into a perspective that we have other things we need to do, and this is a major housekeeping issue that is keeping us from being politically effective...

Again, just my opinion...


20 posted on 06/20/2014 5:56:16 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Will work for a new Kidney...)
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To: Jack Hydrazine; USS Alaska; MeshugeMikey; Jane Long; RitaOK; Diogenes; All

IF a “Conservative Politician” is a Politician that “Conserves,” then what in the “Obama” has Rep. Scalise EVER “Conserved?”


21 posted on 06/20/2014 6:06:07 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: RummyChick
I am suspicious. Since when (lately) would the Elite put a strong conservative Republican in such a position?

He gathers votes, he doesn't decide what goes to the floor for a vote. It looks like a bone was thrown to pacify TEA Party conservatives for the upcoming election cycle.

22 posted on 06/20/2014 6:06:54 AM PDT by Go Gordon (Barack McGreevey Obama)
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To: RummyChick

Mark Levin doesn’t seem to agree. He didn’t speak highly of him last night, and on his facebook page, he wrote, “Scalise, the new #3 in House GOP leadership, is pretty lame”. Earlier last year, he said Scalise is a Boehner guy. (I value Mark Levin’s opinion highly.)


23 posted on 06/20/2014 6:08:46 AM PDT by wattsgnu
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To: Bushbacker1

I hope he models himself after Francis Urquhart and “puts a little stick about”...


24 posted on 06/20/2014 6:09:53 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: stevie_d_64

Scalise is a tea partier? Who knew? I thought he did Boehner’s bidding as chair of the RSC.


25 posted on 06/20/2014 6:14:11 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: RummyChick
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What a GREAT television series !!!

... well, at least until Frank kissed the Secret Service guy, and those two had a three-some with Frank's wife involved ...

my spouse and I turned it OFF, and "that was that" ... permanently.


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26 posted on 06/20/2014 6:27:45 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (.)
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To: stevie_d_64
Yeah, It was a "bone toss"..nothing more.

27 posted on 06/20/2014 6:29:14 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a weapon..0'Bathhouse/"Rustler" Reid? d8-)
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To: RummyChick

The Obama DREAMER WAR ON CHILDREN continues at the Southern US Border with the very hostile Nation of Mexico.

The Obama DREAMER WAR ON CHILDREN is an excellent preview of what Obama wants Boehner”s Amnesty Bill to accomplish: Destroy America by replacing the resident population.


28 posted on 06/20/2014 7:38:19 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Scalise spoke at the Desoto County, Mississippi, Republican Club’s Reagan Day Dinner. He sounded Conservative to me but I’ll be watching. To many “Conservative’ is just an obligatory slogan.


29 posted on 06/20/2014 7:55:39 AM PDT by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones.)
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To: Liz; All

LOL....I’m sure Cantor’s office received LOTS of calls, saying the same thing ;)

I did call first thing in the a.m., after his catostophic loss...while they were still shellshocked and answering their phone.

I know these staffers - for the most part - are programmed drones, but my theory is...what have we got to lose by making the call/sending the fax, etc?

It might just be YOUR call/fax that makes the difference on....amnesty...IRS....Benghazi hearings....etc. Especially to Reps who are jeopardy of losing their seat.


30 posted on 06/20/2014 8:12:26 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Speaking of TURNING OFF, I was getting into Halt and Catch Fire (I’m in Austin where this all happened AND filmed here)
until the last episode. Shame, was enjoyable re-living our
tech boom of the 80s.


31 posted on 06/20/2014 8:21:51 AM PDT by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: RummyChick

Anyone coming from New Orleans is not a ‘true’ conservative. All of the so called ‘conservatives’ back the Rat mayor and the Piggie Landrieu! It is all about family alliances not party alliances there. Scalise is not good news


32 posted on 06/20/2014 8:42:00 AM PDT by changeNOTneeded
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To: Jane Long

You The One, girl-—live with it.


33 posted on 06/20/2014 10:04:39 AM PDT by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: Liz

;-)


34 posted on 06/20/2014 10:54:24 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: stevie_d_64; Jack Hydrazine; Bushbacker1; wattsgnu; SharpRightTurn; duffee; changeNOTneeded
For what it's worth, here is the Heritage Action for America's current conservative scorecard rating for the new GOP Majority Whip Steve Scalise:

2014: 81% (House GOP average: 62%)
Lifetime rating: 81%

By comparison, here is Rep. Raul Labrador's Heritage Action scorecard rating (he of course ran for the House Majority Leadership position vacated by Eric Cantor):

2014: 77% (House GOP average: 62%)
Lifetime: 82%

By contrast, here is the new House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy's Heritage Action scorecard rating:

2014: 42% (House GOP average: 62%)
Lifetime: 50%

35 posted on 06/20/2014 11:12:31 AM PDT by DestroyLiberalism
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To: RummyChick

I have no idea why they’d put him in such a position, but I suspect that they’re trying to stem the tide.

The so-called elites don’t like the fact that their constituents are holding them to account, AND they’re frightened that they might be next. Of course, they’re ALSO frightened of what might happen if they side with the ‘teabaggers,’ probably blackmail about all the little deals they made.

Of course, I think that at the moment, their base is pissed off enough that this isn’t going to be nearly enough.


36 posted on 06/20/2014 1:47:24 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: stevie_d_64; All

I wonder if Tea Party and other truly conservative GOP House Members could break ranks from the “establishment” and form their own sub-caucus?


37 posted on 06/20/2014 6:00:18 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: DestroyLiberalism

Which one has the most influence?


38 posted on 06/20/2014 7:55:44 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: stevie_d_64

You got that right!


39 posted on 06/20/2014 8:02:31 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Sola Veritas

They already do...It is nothing as formal as a gavel type function, needing a “call to order”...

The faction IS there though...

The idea that a “formal”, recognizable political party apparatus, in the conventional sense would be nice...I have always wondered if that could be created as a viable alternative with serious implications to the stalemate which is the two “existing” political parties we have now...

I used to not believe that a third party was something to desire, because the lines were better defined back in the day, maybe about 20 years ago...But since then, a lot of discussion here and in other functions I attend, a lot of people are really warming up to the idea, and not just wishing it...

The need is to establish a formal process to organize, bring ALL the willing Tea Party groups together (nationally) and really lay stakes into a functioning political apparatus, one that can get people to run for elected office, all the filing, charter, elected leadership counsel, terms of office, fundraising, etc etc etc...

When that is all established then a vetting process by extending invitations to existing politicians that exhibit the principles, and have a voting record to support their words to that effect...

You may very well see a whole gaggle of these types jump ship from the republican party, and even a few from the democrat party as well...Couple that with local and state representatives and those organizations at that level, and you might see a real change in the political wind...

The outcome would be that what is left of the republican party will probably become the “moderate/swing” party officials and voters, will have to caucus with us in this new political party...

To get anywhere...

There would be a lot more to it, and not a lot of people are really onboard with what it would really take to make this work...These are the types that will whine and cry about how weak, at a time where we need everyone onboard with the establishment to save this country...

Well, I’ve heard that whining for years, and how’s all that “stay the course” with the republican party leadership worked out so far in the last 20 years???

I’ve seen us continue to lose a lot of high profile elections, when we could have trounced the opposition both times, if we had not had an establishment candidate forced upon us, through an antiquated primary system...And that sentiment is trickling down to local and state races as well, in some areas...

Sure, we hold the House in D.C., and we have some solid majorities in other states as well...But I do not believe it is sustainable I this toxic environment, we do not have the right people in place, and never will for very long because of how polarized the atmosphere is...

And I believe the lesson at the end of the film “Patton” is indicative of exactly where we are in our countries history right now...

“A slave, would ride with a conquering hero, into Rome, holding a laurel over that hero’s head, and in the midst of the adoring crowd gathered to welcome him home, the slave is whispering, “Victory is Fleeting.””

Some elected officials and the leadership in the republican party need to learn a very hard lesson...

And it is not going to be pretty...

You might be amazed at how many politicians would jump ship from both parties to form up a strong, very right-wing, conservative party apparatus...

You just have to have something they can change their “tagline” to at the end of their name...

R’s, D’s and I’s will have to deal with these dirn “T’s” or “C’s”...(depends on the organizations consensus for those appearances...

But what is really a tagline??? an identifier, or a real substantive force to be reckoned with...

I prefer the latter...I want substance over semantics...

Some of us have been working to try and change the tone of moderation and political capitulation in the republican party for years...Not that we’ve been beating people over the heads about it...But the rejection of the leadership in that party to “real” conservative direction is what drives most of us on the inside to start looking for an alternative mechanism, and more that just a local or even a state group to affiliate with, and separate from the establishment in both (existing) parties...

Just my overall take on this issue...


40 posted on 06/21/2014 4:46:52 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Will work for a new Kidney...)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Jack Hydrazine wrote:
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Which one has the most influence?
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McCarthy does, of course (for now). However, I think the real fight is going to be for the House Speakership after the November election. I believe the Tea Party members of the House are largely keeping their powder dry until then.


41 posted on 06/21/2014 7:19:06 AM PDT by DestroyLiberalism
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