Skip to comments.Investigation of IRS Targeting [C-SPAN LIVE THREAD]
Posted on 06/20/2014 6:11:37 AM PDT by cripplecreek
Investigation of IRS Targeting
Commissioner John Koskinen testified at a House Ways and Means Committee hearing on the investigation of the IRS' criteria to process applications of tax-exempt organizations.
I will say this...if this had been in the Army or Air Force...the director in charge of the IT division would have been escorted out of the building and fired, and the contractors involved in support...laid off that day and a whole new team brought in within days. I can’t imagine any IT professional cooperating to this mess....to the degree that your reputation in life is permanently screwed up if a new employer finds out you were working for the IRS.
Sander Levin is in full IRS defense mode.
They can contradict themselves twenty times before breakfast and it never bothers them. Nor are they ever held accountable for it.
I keep hoping that will change, but I don’t know - the press is simply not interested.
Now we have two live threads
The media should be outraged that one party is only interested in defending the IRS and accusing the GOP during an investigation.
Thanks! Could we have [Live thread] added to header, please?
That was a fast talking time line. Made my head spin.
QY: Has IRS know since Feb that the emails were gone? Why wasn’t Congress informed of potential problem?
A: wanted to complete investigation.
QY: Treasury was told that WH was told in April. Who told Treasury?
I’m hearing nothing but contradictions.
Serial number for hard drive?
Tracking system for hard drives?
Will you support appointment of Special Pros? Yes or No?
Camp did well.
The “hard drive” issue is a major “squirrel”.
The emails weren’t on any workstation “hard drive”.
Pushed Koskinen into saying he supported a special prosecutor. It really pissed of Sander Levin.
I think Levin is heavily sedated - or does he always talk like that?
Koskinen is just stonewalling Camp’s questions. He reminds me of an undertaker. Levin lecturing about being disrespectful to witnesses is BS and Levin’s just wasting time.
Sander Levin is the older of the Levin brothers. He’s a lifer.
Koskinen does NOT support a special prosecutor.
Yes and no. Digging for any data that can be recovered is priority. Finding if there is intentional destruction of records that are by statute to be preserved is also important.
I will be worried if next round does not go to servers and archiving.
Democrats aren’t treating this like an investigation. They’re treating it like a trial and playing the role of defense attorney.
Sander Levin has no interest in finding facts
but insists he KNOWS what is going on.
[Was he in on this with Cummings?]
Kioskinen claims they examined the hard drives for months,
and that they were shared amongst many people with
“custodians”. He did not want to notify Congress
because they are not “rationale”, unlike his
Kioskinen then blames the Committee for the loss
by giving an irrational segue to the Flacks episode.
Mr. Johnson notes there is “targeting of Americans
for their beliefs”. Exactly.
I thought he said No. ?????
Kioskinen purports the IRS destroys the Evidence
to save .... $200,000.
Got that? The purpose was to destroy Evidence.
He struck me as a real weasel at the last hearing .... the previous IRS Commissioner was a lying weasel as well. Then I think of other ‘heads of agencies’ ..... Obama has picked a bunch of liars, crooks and corruptocrats, all good reflections of their boss. The IRS has been ‘weaponized’ and Congress needs to do something dramatic to stop it and I know they won’t.
McDermott back to calling it a conspiracy theory.
This witness just said emails don’t qualify as “records” in the IRS data storage law, implying that destroyed emails was not illegal.
McDermott is such as asshat!!!
Is it just me, or does this guy seem to give credence to the Lizard People conspiracists?
Yes, the intentional destruction of evidence is a major deal, and someone should spend some prison time for it.
Rep. Kevin Brady has caught John Koskinen
in a great lie and obstruction of justice.
Koskinen then LIES and says he told them
information which he did not.
Rep. Brady is doing great.
I looked it up - %50k fine, community service, probation.
And it was obvious, as it is in this case, that the full consequences for his behavior was far less damaging than the information that he destroyed.
But you know the IRS would use taxpayer emails as evidence in a heartbeat.
No wonder Lois was so “smug” during her appearances .... she knew she’d destroyed evidence.
Cummings apologizes that the LIES have been exposed.
[Lucky for HIM the “hard drives” are missing]
John Lewis. Duh.
Going to let Koskinen filibuster his five minutes.
Other email from the time period in question exists, it must have been restored from backup to the replacement disk.
Why were these emails not restored for Lerner?
Why were these emails not restored for these other particular persons?
Koskinen is pretty ballsy with Democrats providing cover for him.
Paul Ryan up.
And the Dems are using the fact that she sought their restoration as prima facie evidence that she was not destroying evidence. I suspect she had erased all of those messages and wanted to confirm that they could not be retrieved.
I still don't know why there are not backups from mirror servers. The crash of her personal computer should not mean the loss of all her documents, including emails. I worked in the federal government for 36 years. This is simply not possible.
Smug ... just like Lerner. They know they are untouchable.
oops, wrong pic, same comment.
It’s easy to be smug when you are the Commissioner of the most untouchable governmental agency in the world.
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Before Sander went to Washington he was significant in the early destruction of the city of Detroit.