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Russia denies troop buildup at Ukraine border
REUTERS ^ | Jun 20, 2014

Posted on 06/20/2014 6:56:53 AM PDT by McGruff

The Kremlin on Friday denied a statement by NATO suggesting Russia was building up troops on the frontier with Ukraine but said Moscow had brought in more border guards because of security concerns.

NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said on Thursday that at least a few thousand more Russian troops were now at the frontier, and called it a regrettable step backwards following an earlier withdrawal from the border.

"There has been no build-up," Yuri Ushakov, President Vladimir Putin's foreign policy adviser, told reporters.

He said Russia was concerned about security at the border and added: "This means just the border guards are getting a few reinforcements, and troops have been withdrawn."

(Excerpt) Read more at in.reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: opec; russia
See the Russians are doing what everyone was demanding. Securing their border. Maybe they could secure ours. We can't seem to.
1 posted on 06/20/2014 6:56:53 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: McGruff
The Russian troops moving to the border are there to facilitate the trafficking of arms and mercenaries to Ukraine. LOL
2 posted on 06/20/2014 7:17:14 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: McGruff

You keep repeating the same fatuous claim that by Russia lining up an invasion force at the Ukrainian border and then facilitating Russian armor and men to cross the border this is somehow is equivalent to doing as “everyone was demanding”. On what planet does that even begin to make any kind of sense?

Are you claiming that “everyone” was demanding that thousands of Russian soldiers cross the Ukrainian border and wage a terror campaign in Ukraine? Because that is what is happening.

Are you claiming that “everyone” was demanding that dozens of Russian tanks invade Ukraine? Because that has been happening. Even more armor crossed the Ukrainian border today from Russian.

Please explain for us your logic. I am quite curious to hear it.


3 posted on 06/20/2014 7:34:14 AM PDT by Agog
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To: Agog

Everyone is demanding the Russians stop the flow of fighters in Ukraine and now that they are you are outraged. Make up your mind. You are either for it or against it.


4 posted on 06/20/2014 7:43:12 AM PDT by McGruff (What if we bombed our own citizens?)
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To: Agog
Please explain for us your logic. I am quite curious to hear it.

Begin by checking Russia Today and RIA Novosti.

5 posted on 06/20/2014 7:44:31 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Agog
Oh, forgot to mention: the logic is quite simple, really.

Russia good.
Ukraine bad.

6 posted on 06/20/2014 7:51:56 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: McGruff

See the Russians are doing what everyone was demanding. Securing their border.

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Hilarious.

Did you neglect to post the story from Russia Today wherein Ukraine invaded Russia and annexed some of her territory?


7 posted on 06/20/2014 7:56:35 AM PDT by dmz
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To: McGruff

Everyone is demanding the Russians stop the flow of fighters in Ukraine and now that they are you are outraged.

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Wow, the way you worded this it sounds like you believe that the flow is of Ukrainians coming across the border into Russia.

Russia can easily stop the flow of Russians into Ukraine. Stop ordering them to do so. Or enabling them to do so.


8 posted on 06/20/2014 8:00:35 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Agog; Cap Huff; 1rudeboy; SunkenCiv; Tailgunner Joe
Speech by Andrei Illarionov at NATO PA Session in Vilnius

First point. You may hear statements that this is ‘the Ukrainian crisis’ or that this is ‘the crisis in Ukraine’. It is incorrect. It is neither ‘the crisis in Ukraine’, nor ‘the Ukrainian crisis’. This is not an internal affair of Ukraine. This is a war. This is the Russian-Ukrainian war. To be correct, this is the Mr Putin’s war against Ukraine.

And this war is only an introductory chapter of a much larger event which can be called and actually has already been called ‘War’, ‘World War’, ‘the Fourth World War’. I’ll try to elaborate this later. It is not my choice of picking this particular term. It is the term that is being used by the Kremlin propaganda machine – the Fourth World War being waged now by Russia against the rest of the world.

read the full speech here:
http://www.lithuaniatribune.com/69155/speech-by-andrei-illarionov-at-nato-pa-session-in-vilnius-201469155/

9 posted on 06/20/2014 8:07:51 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: McGruff

Russians stop the flow of fighters into Ukraine? The Russians are the flow of fighters into Ukraine!

Your inability to be truthful makes it evident you are in fact Russian, correct?

This just in Russia denies placing missiles in Cuba.


10 posted on 06/20/2014 8:07:56 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: free_life
Your inability to be truthful makes it evident you are in fact Russian, correct?

Ok, you got me. Vlad McPutin here.

11 posted on 06/20/2014 8:21:34 AM PDT by McGruff (What if we bombed our own citizens?)
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To: dmz
You can see here that Russian tanks never actually cross the border.

They can fly. Unlike your weak NATO tanks.

12 posted on 06/20/2014 8:30:18 AM PDT by McGruff (What if we bombed our own citizens?)
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To: AdmSmith

Thanks for the ping. I went and skimmed the speech. I’ll have to go back later to read it full.


13 posted on 06/20/2014 8:45:33 AM PDT by Cap Huff
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To: AdmSmith

Nailed it!

Should be a thread on it’s own AdmSmith, it is that important WW4.


14 posted on 06/20/2014 8:57:52 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: McGruff

One of your comrades was insisting that they came by barge, instead. LOL


15 posted on 06/20/2014 9:03:14 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: McGruff

Exposed.... “Your” weak NATO tanks, yes “our” NATO tanks as opposed to your Russian tanks, Russian mole. FSB I am guessing.

The Russian propaganda and disinformation war is going on right here on FR.


16 posted on 06/20/2014 9:04:14 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: AdmSmith
To be correct, this is the Mr Putin’s war against Ukraine.

Incorrect. Ukraine started this "war" or whatever you want to call it when a bunch of protesters were able to overthrow their own government. Putin just took advantage of the chaos to grab Crimea. They sure didn't put up a fight did they?

Then the provinces of Donetsk and Luhansk Declared themselves fee of the illegal government in Kiev much like the 13 colonies declared their independence from England. They are the ones pleading for Russia to come to their rescue.

Fourth World War? Did I miss one?

17 posted on 06/20/2014 9:51:03 AM PDT by McGruff (What if we bombed our own citizens?)
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To: free_life

You people are so easy to tweak. Makes me laugh out loud.


18 posted on 06/20/2014 9:51:54 AM PDT by McGruff (What if we bombed our own citizens?)
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To: McGruff

And there Russia was. Pure, benevolent, and innocent . . . until the Ukrainian Nazis threatened the very existence of the Sov, er, Russia itself. When it was forced to militarily occupy Ukraine in its own defense. Just like it occupied Georgia in 2008, and every other global superpower that surrounds it, and threatens its existence.


19 posted on 06/20/2014 12:06:06 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Here’s some good news for you.

BREAKING #Russia Customs Officer in critical condition after #Ukraine army mortars the border post at Novoshakhtinsk (Rovstov) #cdnpoli

Must be related to that cease fire Poroshenko declared.


20 posted on 06/20/2014 12:14:11 PM PDT by McGruff (What if we bombed our own citizens?)
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To: McGruff

RT tweeted that George Soros fired the mortar.


21 posted on 06/20/2014 12:15:34 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: McGruff

Putin declared war on Ukraine when he invaded their territory unprovoked. Ukraine did not attack Russia. Russia attacked Ukraine.

The stupid terrorist thugs who have siezed Donetsk and Luhansk are not anything like the American patriots. They are like the Tories who wanted the English to “come to their rescue.”

The brave Ukrainian patriots who overthrew their traitorous corrupt government are like the Founding Fathers who overthrew British rule.

You should be ashamed of yourself.


22 posted on 06/20/2014 12:38:02 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Some, like Putin and his ilk, have no sense of shame.


23 posted on 06/20/2014 12:54:43 PM PDT by Agog
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To: McGruff

False flag shelling of a border post. That tune’s been played before. Poland 1939.


24 posted on 06/20/2014 1:08:54 PM PDT by Agog
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To: McGruff
Fourth World War? Did I miss one?

I assume that you still are living in it, it is called the Cold War.

As a side note: Why do Служба Внешней Разведки think that the present conflict is so important that they expose sleepers?
25 posted on 06/20/2014 2:06:16 PM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: All

Obama the Russian Manchurian candidate President.


26 posted on 06/20/2014 3:43:55 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: McGruff
You can see here that Russian tanks never actually cross the border. They can fly.Unlike your weak NATO tanks.

Lol...that is an entertaining notion.

27 posted on 06/20/2014 6:22:15 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks AdmSmith.


28 posted on 06/21/2014 2:28:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv; gandalftb
Are those similarities in tactics and ideology between the Russian and Serbian stories just a coincidence? Or are all dictators driven by a similar logic? It is only natural for Vladimir Putin to look to the example of Yugoslavia; after all, in the last quarter-century, Milošević was arguably the only other dictator of a collapsing empire who attempted to regain control over its former territories. And let’s not forget that some of the key figures in Russia’s operation in Ukraine have extensive Serbian war experience, which they might be directly applying in Ukraine. Read the article: http://www.newrepublic.com/article/118260/putin-behaving-ukraine-milosevic-did-serbia
29 posted on 06/22/2014 9:02:29 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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http://www.newrepublic.com/article/118260/putin-behaving-ukraine-milosevic-did-serbia


30 posted on 06/22/2014 9:03:00 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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