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Rick Perry Jabs Ted Cruz’s Impact in Texas
Roll Call ^ | 1:56 p.m. on June 19 | Alexis Levinson

Posted on 06/20/2014 7:52:02 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

Rick Perry Jabs Ted Cruzs Impact in Texas

Rick Perry is the governor of Texas. (Bill Clark/CQ Roll Call File Photo)

Texas Gov. Rick Perry needled GOP Sen. Ted Cruz, saying he was skeptical a “junior senator” could have made a big difference in state politics.

“Texas is pretty big; it’s pretty diverse; the legislature is a microcosm of the state, so I’m not sure one person has the ability to change all that,” Perry, a Republican, told reporters at a Thursday lunch hosted by the Christian Science Monitor.

Perry, who openly acknowledges he is mulling a presidential bid in 2016, has often been on the opposite side of Cruz in local politics. In 2012, Cruz defeated Perry’s endorsed candidate, Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst, in a runoff for the Senate. 

This cycle, Cruz— who is also considering a 2016 bid — has largely stayed out of federal elections, with a couple exceptions. But Cruz has played in some of the state elections in Texas, including endorsing state Sen. Dan Patrick over Dewhurst’s re-election earlier this year.

“We all get our 15 seconds of fame, right,” Perry said. “Whether it was Ann Richards, or whether it was George W. Bush or whether it was Rick Perry or whether it was Ted Cruz. Long term, I think it requires somebody with substantial staying power to make a long-term difference in Texas.

“The idea that a personality in the political arena can change Texas may be a little bit outside the realm of reality,” he continued. “Ask me in eight years if Sen. Cruz has made an impact on the state. At this particular point in time, it’s a little early to say that a junior senator would have substantively changed the state.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cruz; tedcruz

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1 posted on 06/20/2014 7:52:02 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie; DoughtyOne; RitaOK; Mountain Mary; MountainDad; aposiopetic; crazycatlady; ...
Ted Cruz Ping!

If you want on/off this ping list, please let me know.

Please beware, this is a high-volume ping list!
2 posted on 06/20/2014 7:52:41 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

Jockeying for position in the race for 2016.

Rick vs. Ted.


3 posted on 06/20/2014 7:55:01 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

In a race of support between a Rick Perry and a Ted Cruz, Rick Perry loses hands down in my book. He’d better come to Jesus on that before he’s standing out by the woodpile in my opinion.


4 posted on 06/20/2014 7:56:35 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: SoConPubbie

personally, i am hoping he makes an impact on the entire nation...


5 posted on 06/20/2014 7:56:51 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: SoConPubbie

Jesus, Perry, your border is leaking!

Take a jab at that first!


6 posted on 06/20/2014 7:57:42 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Responsibility2nd

Yes but Perry should remember this when measuring his chances against the “junior senator”

It is not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog.


7 posted on 06/20/2014 7:58:20 AM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Cruz.


8 posted on 06/20/2014 7:58:22 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Gaffer

Agree. Ted over Rick every day of the week.

But Rick over Jeb, Chris, Rand, Mitt and other assorted losers every day of the week as well.


9 posted on 06/20/2014 7:59:12 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Jockeying for position in the race for 2016.

Rick La Raza Rick vs. Patriot Ted.

10 posted on 06/20/2014 7:59:18 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: SoConPubbie

Thunderdome!


11 posted on 06/20/2014 7:59:20 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: VanDeKoik
BAM!
12 posted on 06/20/2014 8:00:00 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: SoConPubbie

A good old-fashioned shoot-it-out. Are they both from where the South turns to the West? I forget the name of the Texas town that is supposed to mark the border.


13 posted on 06/20/2014 8:00:17 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: SoConPubbie

Perry is a buffoon, especially when compared with Ted Cruz.

Hey Rick: Nerd glasses do not a smart guy make.


14 posted on 06/20/2014 8:03:12 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: SoConPubbie

Perry needs to get some humility if he wants to join Cruz’ staff. I’m sure he’d fit in just fine somewhere.

Perry:
Education:
graduated from Paint Creek High School in 1968. He then attended Texas A&M University, where he was a member of the Corps of Cadets, a member of the Alpha Gamma Rho fraternity, was elected senior class social secretary, and was also elected as one of A&M’s five yell leaders.[14][15] Perry graduated in 1972 with a Bachelor of Science in animal science.[16][17]

Cruz:
Education

Cruz attended high school at Faith West Academy in Katy, Texas,[32] and later graduated from Second Baptist High School in Houston as valedictorian in 1988.[18] During high school, Cruz participated in a Houston-based group called the Free Market Education Foundation where Cruz learned about free-market economic philosophers such as Milton Friedman, Friedrich Hayek, Frédéric Bastiat and Ludwig von Mises.[27] The program was run by Rolland Storey and Cruz entered the program at the age of 13.[25]

Cruz graduated cum laude from Princeton University with a Bachelor of Arts degree from the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs in 1992.[2][7] While at Princeton, he competed for the American Whig-Cliosophic Society’s Debate Panel and won the top speaker award at both the 1992 U.S. National Debating Championship and the 1992 North American Debating Championship.[33] In 1992, he was named U.S. National Speaker of the Year and Team of the Year (with his debate partner, David Panton).[33] Cruz was also a semi-finalist at the 1995 World Universities Debating Championship, making him Princeton’s highest-ranked debater at the championship.[34][35] Princeton’s debate team later named their annual novice championship after Cruz.[34]

Cruz’s senior thesis on the separation of powers, titled “Clipping the Wings of Angels,” draws its inspiration from a passage attributed to President James Madison: “If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary.” Cruz argued that the drafters of the Constitution intended to protect the rights of their constituents, and the last two items in the Bill of Rights offered an explicit stop against an all-powerful state. Cruz wrote: “They simply do so from different directions. The Tenth stops new powers, and the Ninth fortifies all other rights, or non-powers.”[31][36]

After graduating from Princeton, Cruz attended Harvard Law School, graduating magna cum laude in 1995 with a Juris Doctor degree.[2][37] While at Harvard Law, Cruz was a primary editor of the Harvard Law Review, and executive editor of the Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy, and a founding editor of the Harvard Latino Law Review.[7] Referring to Cruz’s time as a student at Harvard Law, Professor Alan Dershowitz said, “Cruz was off-the-charts brilliant.”[19][38][39][40][41][42] At Harvard Law, Cruz was a John M. Olin Fellow in Law and Economics.[43]

Cruz currently serves on the Board of Advisors of the Texas Review of Law and Politics.[43][44]


15 posted on 06/20/2014 8:04:24 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Responsibility2nd

“Jockeying for position in the race for 2016.
Rick vs. Ted.”

Exactly. We all knew they would have to start butting heads a little at some point.

Frankly I think they are two good guys and look forward to seeing both of them run for President in 2016.

IMO we need both of them running to keep Jeb, Crispy and Mitt from getting traction.


16 posted on 06/20/2014 8:05:05 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Dumb statement.


17 posted on 06/20/2014 8:06:14 AM PDT by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Thank you.

Rick is NOT my first choice. Maybe my second, maybe third. But I would WELCOME him in the race

Point is, if we had Perry, Cruz, Jindal, Walker, West, Palin, hell even (maybe) Paul all running - with no RINO’s - would that be the best possible field in many, many years?


18 posted on 06/20/2014 8:09:04 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Gaffer

Perry is one of the few Republicans (along with Krispy Kreme, Romney, etc) who is an automatic non-starter for me in the 2016 nomination race.

He had his chance in 2012, and could have been a better candidate than Romney was. But he completely blew it through amateurish, not ready for prime time behavior. Which, if current events are any indication, he’s failed to learn and grow from.


19 posted on 06/20/2014 8:11:20 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: SoConPubbie
Waiting for Rick Perry to tell us the three reasons he's better than Ted Cruz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YdS7HGO_Ik

20 posted on 06/20/2014 8:12:24 AM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: Responsibility2nd

I could agree on that point if it were, say, Rick as a second (i.e., running mate) to Ted Cruz.

In my recollection, there has been NO recent named Republican who has stood so fast and so unapologetically than Ted Cruz. The only one I can ascribe such loyalty to ideals and determination is Ronald Reagan. The rest are pikers of whimsy and political winds.


21 posted on 06/20/2014 8:13:31 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: M. Thatcher

LOLOL!!


22 posted on 06/20/2014 8:13:39 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: SoConPubbie

If it comes down to a contest between Perry and Cruz for the Texas delegation, my money is on Perry. He has been around Texas politics for a long time and has the organization that Cruz lacks. Besides of that, if you have seen Perry on TV lately he comes across as having consumate likeable political skills that Cruz hasn’t yet acquired.


23 posted on 06/20/2014 8:14:01 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: tanknetter

I sympathize. I would not choose him as first. But I would, given the opportunity, support him as a running mate for Ted Cruz.


24 posted on 06/20/2014 8:14:45 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Both from Texas. Can’t happen, per US Constitution


25 posted on 06/20/2014 8:15:35 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
Exactly what are ‘political skills?’

I much prefer Cruz's unwavering and flawless adherence to principles and ideals.

In other words, keeping to one's ideals the true intention is far preferable to political maneuvering for the sake of manipulating the outcome.

26 posted on 06/20/2014 8:18:00 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer; tanknetter
I sympathize. I would not choose him [Perry] as first. But I would, given the opportunity, support him as a running mate for Ted Cruz.

No can do. Cruz and Perry are from the same state, thus cannot run as a ticket.

27 posted on 06/20/2014 8:18:13 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance on parade.)
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To: tanknetter

Okay....I concede on that point. Then my choice is Cruz, hands down.


28 posted on 06/20/2014 8:18:37 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Responsibility2nd

Well one thing is for sure if we let the GOP leadership foist another Mitt, Jeb,Christy type RINO candidate off on us in 2016 we are toast. I will take my chances with Rick Perry over those guys any day of the week. I am anxious to see how Ted Cruz shakes out on the National debate stage. I feel like he will be a rock star.


29 posted on 06/20/2014 8:19:44 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: okie01

Understand. I forgot that. Thanks for pointing it out. Then it’s Cruz for me.


30 posted on 06/20/2014 8:19:45 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: tanknetter; Gaffer
Both from Texas. Can’t happen, per US Constitution

Per the 12th Amendment both could run, but the electors of TX could not cast their ballots for both

So practically it would never happen as you could with a Perry/Booker administration after a Perry/Cruz vs. Hillary/Booker race.

31 posted on 06/20/2014 8:19:47 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (DC, it's Versailles on the Potomac but without the food and culture)
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To: SoConPubbie

Well if there was any lingering doubt that Perry is running for president then this should put it to rest.


32 posted on 06/20/2014 8:22:16 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Responsibility2nd
The most important thing we can do is encourage Krispy Kreme, Jeb, Paul Ryan, and Marco Rubio to ALL run to the bitter end (heck, even Romney again).

That more than anything would allow one of the conservatives to take the nomination.

Divide their vote, like they've been doing to us all these years.

33 posted on 06/20/2014 8:24:50 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: SoConPubbie

Look at me! Look at me! Perry is such a needy jerk, I wonder if he and Peter King are related.

Perry isn’t fit to shine Ted Cruz’s black snakeskin boots.


34 posted on 06/20/2014 8:25:27 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: tanknetter
Both from Texas. Can’t happen, per US Constitution

It can, but they couldn't get the electoral votes from Texas: "The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves..."

35 posted on 06/20/2014 8:26:15 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
I could care less how personable Perry is or how well he comes across on televison. Cruz is a fighter. A bare knuckle brawler who also happens to posses one of the brightest minds in the political sphere as of right now. Give me those two God given attributes any day of the week. Go Cruz!!
36 posted on 06/20/2014 8:30:42 AM PDT by Mathews (Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV), Luke 22:36 (NIV))
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To: stanne

Thanks for posting this.


37 posted on 06/20/2014 8:33:06 AM PDT by Richard from IL
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To: tanknetter

I think I disagree. Instead of a 2 year shootout, conservatives should decide early on a candidate and back him/her all the way. In 2012 we hurt ourselves with the debate franchises. I say get behind Cruz, or Palin(if She is serious), or Walker and beat a drumbeat to the American sheeple that we will not have a nation for long if they continue to vote for democrats. This party hates God, family, free enterprise, the military, amongst a host of other things. They must be stopped if we are to keep the Visogoths outside our gates!


38 posted on 06/20/2014 8:35:18 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment (Proud member of the 48% . . giver not a taker)
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To: tanknetter

“he completely blew it through amateurish, not ready for prime time behavior.”

****

I’ll vote for Cruz over Gov. Goodhair any day of the week.

That being said, the 2012 flop by Perry was primarily because of the heavy pain meds he was taking for back surgery.


39 posted on 06/20/2014 8:38:01 AM PDT by peyton randolph (Show me the man and I will find the crime. - Lavrenti Beria)
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To: firebrand

It could be Fort Worth or Brady, however, the interpretation is made. The West starts with Fort Worth, or Brady is the heart of Central Texas.


40 posted on 06/20/2014 8:38:57 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: 2nd Amendment

Actually, I support early coalescing around a common candidate as well.

But we also need to see how candidates perform on the Presidential nomination stage. Being a winning nominee isn’t just about stances on issues, it’s also about performing as a candidate and building an effective political organization.

It’s more of an art than a science, but I think that the coalescing needs to happen right after the South Carolina primary.


41 posted on 06/20/2014 8:40:35 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: peyton randolph

Also consider that Bush 41’s behavior in the 1992 campaign was due to being overmedicated for Graves Disease.

I was once told by a senior GOP operative that the day after Pat Buchannan won the NH primary Bush was supposed to come out to apologize for raising taxes, do a mea culpa and ask for forgiveness from Conservatives. Even had the speech ready to go. But 41 woke up cranky due to meds and cancelled the whole thing. Which was probably his best chance to prevent Clinton from becoming President.

With so much on the line, being overmedicated is to me a really poor excuse for being a crappy Presidentisl candidate.


42 posted on 06/20/2014 8:49:05 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: SoConPubbie

JEALOUSY, thy name is Perry.


43 posted on 06/20/2014 8:52:54 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: tanknetter; All

Gov. Perry is an original true American and that rates extremely high in my opinion. Perry’s name recognition has increased exponentially in the past couple of years due to his jobs success in Texas, his general governance of a huge, economically diversified state and his cautious handling of immigration, realizing that his legal constituents are also diversified.

I can get behind and work for a Perry 2016 candidacy with no qualms.


44 posted on 06/20/2014 10:05:32 AM PDT by varina davis (Gov. Rick Perry in 2016)
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To: SoConPubbie

One of the worst things Republican presidential wannabes, do is gang up on one another. NO WONDER we’ve lost so
many elections. I believe Pres. Reagan had the right
idea, “Don’t speak ill of those in your own party”. Instead
of Rick saying, he was skeptical of Cruz making a difference in state politics”, he could have said something like Cruz is sticking to his conservative ideals and he admired Cruz for that. Though I admire Rick, I do not
like backbiting someone in my party.


45 posted on 06/20/2014 11:32:14 AM PDT by tillacum
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To: Responsibility2nd

If all these candidates jump into the race, this will give Jeb or Krispy his only chance to win. I say let’s all get behind ONE candidate, Ted Cruz, right after the ‘14 elections are over. Bob


46 posted on 06/20/2014 2:30:55 PM PDT by alstewartfan (We met on the beach amid rumors of war Your head in your hand What you saw you won't say. Al Stewart)
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To: tanknetter
With so much on the line, being overmedicated is to me a really poor excuse for being a crappy Presidentisl candidate.

Agreed. Note that in 2012, Haley Barbour of the GOP-e decided not to run because he had the same back surgery/medication issue as Perry did. Perry should have followed Barbour's lead and sat out 2012.

47 posted on 06/25/2014 5:11:53 PM PDT by peyton randolph (Show me the man and I will find the crime. - Lavrenti Beria)
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