Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Pope's View on Legalizing Drugs: Just Say No (Francis Condemns Legalization)
AP/ABC ^ | Jun 20, 2014 | NICOLE WINFIELD

Posted on 06/20/2014 9:08:47 AM PDT by xzins

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 81-100101-120121-140 ... 241-242 next last
To: xzins
It is helpful to shock and awe the masterminds.

Governments keep capturing drug kingpins, and it keeps having no effect on the drug trade while former underlings vie to take the kingpin's place.

Not helpful.

101 posted on 06/20/2014 5:13:48 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 99 | View Replies]

To: varyouga
Revelation 9:21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

In the above verse the Greek for sorceries is pharmakov, from which we get pharmacy. Sorcery was the use of mind altering drugs for non-medicinal purposes.

This was pretty evident in the campish, late 60's "Tales of Don Juan" a story of a Yaqui Indian sorcerer written by Carlos Castenada.

102 posted on 06/20/2014 5:19:02 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 100 | View Replies]

To: ConservingFreedom

Capturing drug kingpins is not war. D-Day was war.

Instead of “War on Drugs” that would better be called “Criminalization of Drugs”


103 posted on 06/20/2014 5:21:40 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 101 | View Replies]

To: xzins
So we drop bombs on a dozen sovereign nations in order to keep Americans from putting disapproved substances into their bloodstreams? Q00L!

What do we do to the domestic drug masterminds?

104 posted on 06/20/2014 5:24:55 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 103 | View Replies]

To: ConservingFreedom

Do you remember Saddam Hussein?


105 posted on 06/20/2014 5:27:31 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 104 | View Replies]

To: xzins
Was he a domestic drug mastermind?
106 posted on 06/20/2014 5:28:36 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 105 | View Replies]

To: ConservingFreedom

Are we going to use the word ‘war’ or are we going to use the word ‘criminalization’?


107 posted on 06/20/2014 5:29:06 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 104 | View Replies]

To: ConservingFreedom

He might have been, but that wasn’t the point.

You asked what we do with them.


108 posted on 06/20/2014 5:30:04 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 106 | View Replies]

To: OneWingedShark

Me whine? I thought that is what you have been doing as you search for a way to promote libertarianism.

If you prefer the libertarians on abortion and gay issues, national defense and borders and hookers and drugs and porn, then call it as it is, to the left of republicans.


109 posted on 06/20/2014 6:00:11 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 94 | View Replies]

To: ConservingFreedom

Shouldn’t you wait until that makes sense, to post it on a thread? To just blurt it out for no reason or context, looks weird.


110 posted on 06/20/2014 6:02:11 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 87 | View Replies]

To: Mrs. Don-o

1.4 Abortion
Recognizing that abortion is a sensitive issue and that people can hold good-faith views on all sides, we believe that government should be kept out of the matter, leaving the question to each person for their conscientious consideration.


111 posted on 06/20/2014 6:03:33 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 82 | View Replies]

To: Mrs. Don-o

I agree, remember post 63 though, and read the rest of the posts to me.


112 posted on 06/20/2014 6:05:16 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 84 | View Replies]

To: varyouga

You sure have some exotic and uninformed views of America.


113 posted on 06/20/2014 6:07:39 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 77 | View Replies]

To: xzins
I am no fan of the war on drugs. I don’t think it has been fought very well. First, declare war. Next, don’t let piddling things get in the way. The purpose of war is not to kill privates, it is to subdue systems of government.

Applied to the drug trade, it is not helpful to jail those who have smoke dope. It is helpful to shock and awe the masterminds. We’ve fought privates and recruits and thought that was the war.

I think I could get behind an actual-military war; but let's be honest: the War on Drugs is entirely about expanding government-power and has been for decades. {I can't speak to the 70s, because I wasn't alive, and I really don't remember much of the 80s [certainly not with enough 'sociopolitical context'], because I was a kid.}

114 posted on 06/20/2014 6:14:52 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 99 | View Replies]

To: xzins
The bible warns against the use of intoxicants and mind-altering drugs.

It's not as entirely prohibitive as you are implying though:

(Prov 31:6-7)
Give strong drink to one who is perishing,
and wine to those in bitter distress;
let them drink and forget their poverty,
and remember their misery no more.
Also remember that Jesus's first miracle was turning water into wine.
115 posted on 06/20/2014 6:18:16 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 98 | View Replies]

To: OneWingedShark

As with any war, it is Constitutional to have Congress declare it and for it to be fought to the finish by a nation and their Commander and Chief. As we look to the Free Republic sidebars and are daily reminded of the progress of WWII after D-Day, in the same way I hope we are reminded of the total commitment and total nation effort it takes to fight and win. It is not a side issue among many issues. It is the central focus of the nation. We fight a war.

Sadly, we didn’t honor the troops who gave their lives and time in this most recent war on terror by having that national commitment. Instead, we were at B-Dubs eating chicken wings and watching football. The way we fought this war has cost us a large chunk of our soul.

What would a war on drugs be? You bet. It’s attacking our enemy on land, air, and sea. It is driving them to extinction. It is sending them to death.

That would be a war on drugs, cartels, nations.


116 posted on 06/20/2014 6:24:50 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 114 | View Replies]

To: ansel12
Me whine?

Yes.

I thought that is what you have been doing as you search for a way to promote libertarianism.

*shrug* — I try not to whine, but I would be lying if I said I never whine.

If you prefer the libertarians on abortion and gay issues, national defense and borders and hookers and drugs and porn, then call it as it is, to the left of republicans.

Ha! No way — the Libertarian-party would be far more 'ok' with letting those be the purview of the several states than the Republican-party. The Republican-party has absolutely no intention of addressing those issues at all, they are merely a puppet on the right hand of the same 'person' who has the Democrat-party on their left hand — this 'person' has no intention of following through on the "party platform" it uses to dress its hands if it does not conform to its own agenda.

117 posted on 06/20/2014 6:30:14 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 109 | View Replies]

To: OneWingedShark
4 It is not for kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine; nor for princes strong drink: 5 Lest they drink , and forget the law , and pervert the judgment of any of the afflicted . 6 Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish , and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts. 7 Let him drink , and forget his poverty, and remember his misery no more.

Leaders don't waste their lives with intoxicants is what that says. Wiping away pain is for the injured, and wiping away feeling is for the depressed.

You read that differently than do I.

But, fwiw, onewingshark, I think you are seeing something worth pursuing. You don't want to see and overbearing government directing peoples' personal decisions, and you don't want that over-bearing government wasting lives and resources in a lying campaign.

I agree with that.

I'll take the pain pill to deaden pain, but I won't take it to deaden life.

118 posted on 06/20/2014 6:30:51 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 115 | View Replies]

To: ansel12

Interesting. Where’s this from?


119 posted on 06/20/2014 6:40:35 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("If thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments." - Jesus Christ - Matthew 19:17)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 111 | View Replies]

To: OneWingedShark

A politician or voter who supports abortion at the state level, or any level of government supports abortion, conservatives oppose abortion and gay marriage at all levels from city hall to the federal government..

Conservatives oppose abortion and has won a lot of victories, it is one reason libertarians despise them.

On January 22, thousands gathered on the National Mall in Washington for the annual March for Life that takes place on the date that Roe v. Wade was decided by the Supreme Court.

The same week, the Republican National Committee decided that it was time for the national party to wade back into the pro-life waters after a perceived hiatus from using it as a platform issue. A “Resolution on Republican Pro-Life Strategy” formally re-established abortion as a 2014 election issue for the party and seeks to push back on the “war on women” rhetoric that Democrats have made synonymous with the pro-life movement.

The RNC clearly believes once again that a prominent pro-life position plays well with voters. Perhaps the national party has taken note of what’s happening at the state level. Twenty-four states enacted 53 anti-abortion measures in 2013 alone.

Research from the pro-choice Guttmacher Institute shows that in the last three years, states have enacted an unprecedented 205 different abortion restrictions. This was made possible by the fact that over half of the states in the union have pro-life governors and pro-life majorities in their legislatures.


120 posted on 06/20/2014 6:41:41 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 117 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 81-100101-120121-140 ... 241-242 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson