Posted on 06/20/2014 9:09:11 AM PDT by airedale
We know that Lois Lerner' s computer crashed at some time and per this morning it was just before "she learned of the rogue agents in Cincinnati." Since she was a fairly high level employee whose job required travel did she have a laptop? The way they describe their email system (not the way most systems work) not only would the desktop which crashed have a complete copy of all e-mails both incoming and outgoing so would the laptop. If she did have a laptop did it crash as well; did the agency give it to another employee at some point after wiping the hard drive? Did they dispose of it?
In relation to letters/subpoenas from Congress when did the agency dispose of the hard drive? Who specifically handled it and authorized its disposal? Same with the laptop if it isn't available.
While the emails may be missing aren't there records of what emails were sent and received by Lerner including who sent them?
Since her computer supposedly crashed and theY couldn't restore all of the emails, but keep 6months of backup did they restore from those backup tapes? Where in the schedule of the backup was the IRS? If it happened in the 5th month of the cycle they would have the current 5 months plus the prior 6 months on the backup tape. Have those emails been provided since they would cover a critical period. If it occurred in the 1st month of a cycle they'd have that month plus the last 6 months. So you should have had the last 7-11 months of emails before the crash that they would have been able to restlessness normal conditions. If the didn't why not and who made that decision and who approved it. They would need to be questioned under oath.
I would subpoena the e-mails of anyone on Lerner’s distribution list.
Do they have purchase orders when a new hard drive was purchased? That would give a date when or if this happened.
Am obvious question - one I am sure has been asked (SARC)!
I thought I heard this morning that is was her laptop that crashed.
She had to have gotten a new one right away. When was it bought?
I keep hearing about “tapes”; and this takes more upkeep than buying new computers. Who the hell would use tapes except a department that wants to have a perfect excuse when things go sideways?
While it is normal and reasoned thought to consider all the possibilities of how something like that could have happened and ways to resurrect the information, it isn’t what is called for here.
It is patently obvious given a plethora of evidence regarding the maintenance of data in today’s age, that the IRS is lying. There is no other conclusion available.
Of course those emails are retained and stored on any number of servers. You could get the NSA to print them out if they weren’t so busy covering their own behinds about all the data they “do not access and keep.”
Respectfully, to give them one iota of credence in their ridiculous bleats about “lost, recycled or unavailable” does a serious, SERIOUS, disservice to the truth. These agencies are not American - not in any way, shape or form.
I think someone also added it was an HP (or compaq).
1. It is impossible, I repeat impossible that her hard drive stored her email. How would she access her mail from home or while on travel? Is she trying to say she only handled email from her desk? Impossible.
2. Since her mail had to be on a server, repeat had to be, then where are the back-ups and archives.
3. Supoena the disaster recovery plan asap and find those back-ups and archives before they have more time to cover-up. Obviously WH involved so cover-up will be swift and thorough.
It is beyond time for a state prosecuting authority to begin its own investigation. There are a significant number of crimes involved in the persecution of American citizens, and not all of them, maybe a minority of them, are the exclusive province of federal authorities. It is a state crime to conspire to violate the civil rights of the citizens of a state, and a state crime to spoil evidence involved in such a crime. It is time for the State Attorney Generals of Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Arkansas, Arizona, and Wisconsin, and any others who care about the rule of law in the United States, to begin their investigations and haul these IRS people and their IT people into grand juries.
Is there a federal law that prevents crimes committed by federal employees from being prosecuted by states? I'm not aware if there is.
IT never bothered to recover any of the data, and accidentally sent all the hard memory to be recycled.
Sounds plausible, yes?
Why is everyone chasing this red herring? Emails aren’t stored on a PC. They are serviced and stored within servers that are thereby backed up commensurate with storage and retention policies. The media is then taken from server to disk or tape and stored off-site. So the Government who has enacted unbelievable regulations across the financial services industry for media retention laws would have us believe emails vanished? What would happen to a bank that says this? I can tell you for Enron what happened.....pokey time. We are getting lost in the minutia of a red herring
I would think there’s been a bonfire by now
Well it worked form Hillary and the records of the Rosé Law Firm
There you go using common sense again!!! :)
I run IT for several state agencies and the bs that “we lost the emails” is just that!
The white knight testified this AM that it was her “portable” computer that crashed. Which suggests the IRS would have had to reach out to any 3rd party server custodians and arrange for them crash simultaneously. And comply with equally implausible backup protocols.
Like she is going to say, “ thanks, I never thought of that.”
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