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Letís Deal With Reality and Pass Immigration Reform
Politico ^ | 6/19/14 | SHELDON G. ADELSON

Posted on 06/20/2014 10:01:00 AM PDT by jimbo123

Radio show hosts and political pundits are suggesting that the primary election defeat of House Majority Leader Eric Cantor is the final nail in the coffin for passing immigration reform in this session of Congress. They surmise that other Republicans will be especially reluctant to tackle the issue for fear of losing political support.

If we are led to believe that the results of a local election with 12 percent voter turnout in a single congressional district (one out of 435) with a mere 65,000 votes cast is all that it takes to disrupt a necessary and important national policy debate, then America is in big trouble—not just on this issue, but on a whole range of issues.

I certainly hope that is not the case.

As a Republican, it’s my view that efforts to complete immigration reform should be led by our party. Some on the outer fringes of the GOP may disagree, but the truth is we are humans first and partisans second. Frankly, the Democrats don’t have a monopoly on having hearts.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: adelson; aliens; amnesty; chamberofamnesty; chamberofcommerce; cheaplabor4rinos; gope; mexico
Sheldon Adelson is chairman and CEO of Las Vegas Sands Corp.
1 posted on 06/20/2014 10:01:01 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

He was a big hero around here a few years ago.


2 posted on 06/20/2014 10:02:45 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: jimbo123

I’m ALL FOR Reform on Immigration as long as the reform is rolling back the 1965 immigration act and to actually enforce immigration laws.....


3 posted on 06/20/2014 10:03:37 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: jimbo123

And GOP-e Sycophant (flunky/toady/water-carrier) for Polutico


4 posted on 06/20/2014 10:03:58 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: jimbo123

I respect Sheldon Adelson for spending more than most people to try to get the Communist out of office and generally supporting conservative causes, but he lost me in this artice. He’s right that we need to overhaul work visas to make letting immigrants in to work more rational. He then goes on to try to make the case for giving illegals all kinds of government benefits and privileges. That’s where he lost me.


5 posted on 06/20/2014 10:04:00 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: All

John Cornyn is using the same talking points on Cantor’s eviction from office:

Q: What happened to cause Majority Leader Eric Cantor to lose his Virginia primary election and did his position on immigration reform contribute?

I wouldn’t read the epitaph of immigration reform by this race. Keep in mind roughly 60,000 people voted in this primary and that’s not representative of the state or of the country.

http://www.themonitor.com/opinion/q-a-with-sen-john-cornyn-on-undocumented-minors-crossing/article_cde85ab6-f341-11e3-bfc5-001a4bcf6878.html


6 posted on 06/20/2014 10:04:57 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Let us deal with reality and enforce the current immigration laws!


7 posted on 06/20/2014 10:07:55 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

“He’s right that we need to overhaul work visas to make letting immigrants in to work more rational.”

I actually see no need whatsoever for foreign workers. We have out-of-work people covering every occupation and specialty. Only when we have 5% unemployment (considered by economists to be “full employment) should we consider any foreign workers. As for farm labor, end welfare and those jobs will fill up too.


8 posted on 06/20/2014 10:08:29 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Adelson needs more Mexican slaves to work in his casinos.


9 posted on 06/20/2014 10:09:08 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

As a number, 65,000 is more than an adequate sample of the electorate. It would be a more reliable sample if it were more evenly distributed geographically but the margin by which Brat won is pretty significant.

I think the only thing wrong with the current immigration policy is it lack of enforcement. Send them home; every one


10 posted on 06/20/2014 10:09:54 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: cripplecreek

Why is the latest argument for “immigration reform” basically saying “If everyone is stealing then we ought to legalize stealing...”


11 posted on 06/20/2014 10:10:38 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: jimbo123

It won’t be his lawn upon which the illegals crap; he lives behind tall fences and gates.


12 posted on 06/20/2014 10:10:46 AM PDT by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: jimbo123
The only reform needed is the ENFORCEMENT of existing law by the CORRUPTOCRATS running the FED GOV today, and a tweak to the immigration visa system to know when visitors have overstayed their visas and a tracking system - to prevent more instances of the 19 who took down the WTC and the Pentagon in 2001.

NO NEW LAWS REQUIRED.
13 posted on 06/20/2014 10:11:36 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: jimbo123

To me, “immigration reform” should refer to 2 things; reforming the system of controlling future immigration and control of borders. It does not include those here illegally.


14 posted on 06/20/2014 10:11:40 AM PDT by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: jimbo123
What do immigration laws have to do with immigration?

Why pass more? .

15 posted on 06/20/2014 10:15:02 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: jimbo123

IMMIGRATION REFORM = IMMIGRATION RETREAT


16 posted on 06/20/2014 10:15:03 AM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: jimbo123

More pictures are in order of the thugs and disease ridden illegals. The poor children know who they are and where they live. They need to go back to their parents.

This was a train wreck waiting to happen. It did and it looked like it was orchestrated.

If and when the truth comes out. . .border security and deportation seems like a good platform.

This ordeal can certainly be called the “Trashing of America” . . the ramifications from it???? We have no idea!!!


17 posted on 06/20/2014 10:16:36 AM PDT by Maudeen ("End Times Warrior - Just a Sinner Saved by Grace")
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To: jimbo123

Pass immigration reform?

Of course we should.

We should make it harder for illegal aliens to come here. . .how’s that for addressing immigration reform.

And by the way, when talking heads claim “the immigration system is broken,” exactly what do they mean?

They never say.

Interesting.


18 posted on 06/20/2014 10:30:19 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: jimbo123

I remember when this guy was the cat’s meow around here in 2011 and 2012 because he was bankrolling Newt. Now he’s showing his true colors.


19 posted on 06/20/2014 10:30:22 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: jimbo123

Sheldon Adelson lives in a huge, private mansion. You can’t get anywhere near it without permission.

Unlike many Americans he doesn’t have to deal with the actual problems created by the illegal invaders. he doesn’t have to worry about getting robbed, or having his car vandalized (or stolen). he doesn’t have to worry about illegals breaking into his house. He’s protected from the affects of the things he demands.

F*** this guy.


20 posted on 06/20/2014 10:31:47 AM PDT by navyguy (The National Reset Button is pushed with the trigger finger.)
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To: cripplecreek

Yeah, he propped up a loser to keep a conservative from getting the nomination.


21 posted on 06/20/2014 10:39:51 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: jimbo123

Trust no one on this subject. Amnesty is one issue nearly everyone seems to have his price.


22 posted on 06/20/2014 10:40:06 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If it doesn't include border security, it isn't "reform." It's called "amnesty.")
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To: jimbo123
The last time I went to Las Vegas (Oh, about ten years ago)(and I used to love that place) Las Vegas Blvd. was lined, shoulder to shoulder in many places, with thousands of obvious illegal aliens, Adults and children accosting tourists, shoving flyers for prostitutes, strip clubs etc. into their hands, and a few even tried to stick them in my pockets.

And that is why it was my last trip there.

Sheldon, you may get cheap maids and bus-boys out of the deal, but they ain't the ones who are going to be spending thousands patronizing your hotels, restaurants and casinos.

23 posted on 06/20/2014 10:41:31 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: navyguy

Yep, And Rupert Murdoch, another elitist who will never suffer the consequences of his greedy open borders / amnesty desires is conspiring with Valerie Jarrett to use his media empire to lead public opinion towards self immolation.


24 posted on 06/20/2014 10:47:15 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: LegendHasIt

Conspiring with a Communist (Jarret) for any reason, on any issue, is wrong and should be condemned from every corner. But Progressives think Communism is ‘trendy’...


25 posted on 06/20/2014 11:00:55 AM PDT by navyguy (The National Reset Button is pushed with the trigger finger.)
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To: jimbo123

“Adelson needs more Mexican slaves to work in his casinos.”

And child prostitutes, too.

May they spread scabies and lice and STDs all over his establishments.

My God! Politicians are whores, but now, they’re pimps, TOO!


26 posted on 06/20/2014 11:10:45 AM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: GraceG
"I’m ALL FOR Reform on Immigration as long as the reform is rolling back the 1965 immigration act and to actually enforce immigration laws...."

That's Right, deal with all illegals under the current law to the letter of the law, if after that has been done, it will probably be found no need for reform, unless it is to stiffen penalties for illegal entry.

27 posted on 06/20/2014 11:31:43 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Petrosius; All
That would be a start, indeed!

Actually enforcing the current laws would be a "reform", the way things are now...so we have to be careful not to stereotype the whole topic of immigration reform into meaning the worst of the Obama policies, including amnesty, etc....

It also occurs to me that you could make an analogy between federal firearms registrations and restrictions, and illegal immigrant registrations and restrictions...maybe far-fetched to some, but I agree that we can't really expect to find a practical way to deport 11 million (?) current illegals, and knowing who they are and where they live might make some voluntarily deport, and provide cause to deport others. It's all about the information...and THEY are illegal, so no concerns about that.

Close the borders to new illegals, including all these children who can be humanely "shepherded" back to their homelands, or elsewhere they might be more welcomed. Reform. Overturn the DACA rule in Congress, or reform it so it's not automatically universal. I wouldn't object to some illegals being allowed to stay, for purely practical reasons (CAN we realistically deport 11 million people?!) BUT their status would have to remain illegal, even if not subject to deportation, this could not apply to ALL illegals, and any privileges of citizenship beyond not being deported would have to be earned the same way as legal immigrants do...get in line. That would be a reform.

What's "broken" about our immigration system right now is just that the laws are not being enforced, we're allowing the borders to be seriously breached by illegals, and the lottery system and "rules" regulating how many persons can legally apply to immigrate from any given other country are cockamamie and arcane.

So, I'm in favor of THAT "immigration reform", LOL! Each part in it's proper order, should take care of the problem. Of course, no one in their right mind would be in favor of "comprehensive immigration reform" that we would "have to pass so we know what's in it...don't mix that up with real and needed reforms and changes, though!

28 posted on 06/20/2014 11:44:10 AM PDT by 88keys (broken glass GOP; it matters, replace the Dems. 2014!!)
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To: GraceG

GraceG wrote:
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Why is the latest argument for “immigration reform” basically saying “If everyone is stealing then we ought to legalize stealing...”
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Yep! Or these completely idiotic, lame “immigration reform” arguments could even be stated this way: “If millions of illegal aliens are breaking the law, then we ought to legalize breaking the law...”.


29 posted on 06/20/2014 11:49:54 AM PDT by DestroyLiberalism
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To: jimbo123

Unless and until chain migration is eliminated, don’t even talk about success. That an enforced borders.


30 posted on 06/20/2014 2:09:49 PM PDT by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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To: jimbo123

“I wouldn’t read the epitaph of immigration reform by this race. Keep in mind roughly 60,000 people voted in this primary and that’s not representative of the state or of the country.”

So why was Amnesty such a big deal in that one district then? As far as I know, they ARE NOT being flooded with Illegals up there, as we are here in the Southwest.

So, in a way, I agree with Cornyn - Amnesty is EVEN MORE of an issue in other parts of the country.


31 posted on 06/20/2014 5:17:52 PM PDT by BobL
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To: muir_redwoods

“As a number, 65,000 is more than an adequate sample of the electorate.”

Good point. How may “scientific polls” of people on an issue include 65,000 people. And, as I posted above, IF ANYTHING, Amnesty should not be a big issue in that district, because they are not as flooded with illegals - BUT IT WAS.


32 posted on 06/20/2014 5:20:30 PM PDT by BobL
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To: jimbo123

Stick your reform up your backside!

get every illegal out of the country immediatly


33 posted on 06/20/2014 5:26:26 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: jimbo123

Lets deal with the reality the President must be replaced now.


34 posted on 06/20/2014 5:30:01 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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