Skip to comments.Texas Gay Fathers Denied Legal Recognition of Twin Sons Born Through Surrogate
Posted on 06/20/2014 10:09:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Two gay fathers in Texas have been denied legal recognition of their twin sons, born through a surrogate mother, because same-sex marriage is not legal in the state. While the fathers are petitioning to be placed on the birth certificates, conservative group Family Research Council has argued that the case should not serve as a "back-door" for redefining marriage.
"Family Research Council supports the parental rights of anyone who is a biological parent, regardless of their marital or relationship status," Peter Sprigg, senior fellow at FRC, told The Christian Post in an email on Thursday.
"However, we believe that second-parent adoption, or joint adoption by two adults when neither is the biological parent, should be limited to parents who are legally married. In Texas, this would exclude same-sex couples."
Sprigg added: "Cases such as the one in Texas should not be used as a back-door method of redefining marriage, nor of affirming parental arrangements that deliberately deny, and deprive a child of, the benefits of having both a mother and a father."
The parents, Jason Hanna and Joe Riggs, fathered Lucas and Ethan, who were born in April through a surrogate, The Huffington Post reported earlier this week.
While each man is the biological father of one of the children, they have not been placed on the birth certificates, and have not been allowed to co-adopt each other's biological child. Only the surrogate mother is on the certificates, but she is not their biological mother, since embryos were transferred to her.
"As of right now in Texas two men cannot be on the birth certificate," Hanna explained in an interview on SiriusXM Progress.
"So our attorney followed the letter of the law. We petitioned the court. We had DNA testing there [in court] and petitioned the judge to ultimately remove the surrogate mother from the birth certificate, who has no biological ties to the boys. We would like each biological dad to be placed on the birth certificate of our own son, and then ultimately proceed to the second-parent adoption. The entire petition was denied."
The judge's decision has been criticized by pro-gay groups such as the Family Equality Council, with Executive Director Gabriel Blau stating that the judge "was wrong on moral, ethical, and legal grounds."
The gay couple, legally married in Washington, D.C., last July, said they are worried if something were to happen to one of them and adoption was denied to the remaining partner.
"The state could come in and separate these two brothers We want to reiterate how important it is for a state to recognize each family, whether it's same-sex or opposite-sex, and really to ensure everyone has equal protection from the state," Hanna said.
Riggs added that they were "shocked" when the Texas judge said she could not grant their request under law, since they had heard of other gay couples in Texas that had been successful in their petition.
In February, San Antonio-based federal Judge Orlando Garcia struck down Texas' ban on same-sex marriage, but due to an ongoing appeal process, gay couples are not yet allowed to get married.
YOU CANNOT HAVE TWO FATHERS ON THE DAMN BIRTH CERTIFICATE! And why is it legal for a woman to surrogate for two deviants!?
Someone needs to tell The Christian Post that a child cannot be the product of two men having sex. The child's father is one of them and its mother is the surrogate. Thus, there are no "two fathers" of this child.
The connection between homosexuality and commercial baby-manufacture is very strong. People who approve the latter and object to the former should take note.
Yeah, like Texas is supposed to recognize that some newborn baby came out of one of these two deviant freak’s disease-ridden anus?
While the fathers are petitioning to be placed on the birth certificates, conservative group Family Research Council has argued that the case should not serve as a “back-door” for redefining marriage.
In first with “Never use that term in a thread like this”.
Plus they are not twins, as twins have the same DNA. You know these people need to stop. This is just ridiculous. They don’t want those kids, they really don’t it’s all about getting attention.
"Family Research Council supports the parental rights of anyone who is a biological parent, regardless of their marital or relationship status," Peter Sprigg, senior fellow at FRC, told The Christian Post in an email on Thursday.This makes me go; "Huh??"
If you are gay, then yeah. Your parental rights SHOULD be called into question.
Alternate headline “Texas Rejects Illogical Fantasy Of Two Males Creating A Child”
Then move back to Washington, D.C. to satisfy your perverted life.
GET THE HELL OUT OF TEXAS!
RE: Alternate headline Texas Rejects Illogical Fantasy Of Two Males Creating A Child
How many of you are willing to bet that the Federal Courts will eventually step in and reverse this decision?
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive..."
They are fraternal twins from what I can tell. They each had an embryo they fertilized implanted in the woman. The woman was NOT the egg donor, only the incubator.
I know. you need a flow chart to keep up with the deviancy. It gives me a headache.
Thanks for explaining. I know what you mean about the headache!
Oh, they want them. They want them at about 13-18 years of age in order to have easy access to young kids. Don’t think otherwise. Scratch a Homo find a ephebophile!
This is a NORM in the Homosexual community.
Didn’t California allow three parents on a birth certificate?
It was Florida.
I think they would be half-brothers is the same woman donated the eggs.
I am a Christian. I don’t believe in same-sex marriage. I don’t hate homosexuals. I believe that’s the stance of 99.9% of Christians. The title of this article is asking for trouble.
But I agree with you. I would not want my sons spending the night at their house at any age. It might be true that they would not molest their own child I doubt that holds true for other peoples kids.
RE: The title of this article is asking for trouble.
Trouble for who? Can you elaborate?
Imagine being the poor kid who has a mans name down as “Mother” (or “parnet 2” with no mother at all on his birth certificate.
Imagine the twisted selfish men who would do this to a child.
Only identical twins do, Think about it, twin brothers and sisters obviously do not have identical DNA. Also, does anyone find it frightening that they just happened to get two boys?
RE: Imagine being the poor kid who has a mans name down as Mother
Hey, if Heather can have two mommies, then Junior can have two daddies /s
“Denied legal recognition” of WHAT?
This article is gibberish.
NONE of this is to the benefit of the child, or geared toward securing a child's natural right to derive his identity, kinship network, economic support and nurturance from his own natural father and mother.
It's all centered around adults' desires and not children's needs.
Well at the time I was thinking that if each “father” fertilized an egg from a diferent woman and then they placed both eggs in another woman, that they could not be twins. I missed a step some where. But that’s OK because this is just plain wrong!
We have got to stop sugar coating this. Homosexuals by definition are sexual deviants. They turn their nose, and anus, up to conventional social behavior. They have no compunction doing things on a regular basis that normal people would never do. It is a small step from homosexual activity to ephebophilia and pedophilia.
These people are sick. They are mentally ill and always have been. Simply because the Liberals in the APA said they are not mentally ill doesn't mean a damn thing. They say that biological sex is alterable but sexual preference is not changeable. The APA is as crazy as any of their patients.
Where do you think lawyers come from?
Now the question is, why do we allow this? I know it’s rhetorical.
I feel sorry for the twins having to be born into that kind of mess. Prayers up.
They had the eggs inseminated by some Dr. Frankenstein in a lab and once they had male Zygotes they had them implanted in a women, for a price. Every thing was for a price and to them it is all worth it.
They get to flaunt their homo-nonsense, They get to make legal precedent and they get to have two sexual slaves in a short decade for their perverted pleasure and probably to be swapped around with their perverted Homosexual friends.
Beware. These poor children will never be normal.
Whatever else these characters might be, they are not “fathers.”
Doing this to a child is evil, pure evil. The kids should be taken away from these vile men and placed with a real family.
I think the “Family Research Council” needs to go back and complete their research as to what exactly constitutes a family, cuz this ain’t it.
They’re not fraternal twins, because fraternal twins still share the same two parents. These are “womb-mates” I guess, but they’re not twins under any ordinary meaning of that term.
California is NOT Texas.
If the eggs were bought from the same seller, the children are half-siblings.
It was Florida.
Miami Judge Allows 3 Names on Birth Certificate
They’ll keep trying.
Bill Would Allow Same-Sex Parents on Birth Certificates
Andy Miller and Brian Stephens fell in love 12 years ago while they were training for a marathon on the trails around Lady Bird Lake in downtown Austin. As they began talking about starting a family, they knew of only one same-sex couple who had successfully adopted.
There werent a lot of role models, Miller said.
Miller and Stephens adopted their son, Clark, days after he was born in 2007. But on Clarks birth certificate, only Millers name appears under father. Mother remains noticeably blank and Stephens name is nowhere to be found.
Texas law prevents gay parents from both being listed on supplemental birth certificate forms for adoptive children. The forms provide space for only one mother, a woman, and one father, a male. The gender-specific language was added in 1997 as a part of a renewed commitment to conservative values, said the amendments author, former state Rep. Will Hartnett, R-Dallas.
Opponents of the provision say it compels same-sex families to present unwieldy paperwork to prove legal parentage for medical care, school enrollment and international travel, and prompts extra scrutiny that can embarrass or confuse children.
Why aren't the natural mother's and father's names on the birth certificate as mother and father? If it's legal for two men - homosexual "couple" or not - to adopt a child, then the two men's names could appear on a legal document of the adoption, not as mother or father, but as "adoptive guardians."
For example, there could be a situation in which a woman who is a drug addict has a child, and her father, the child's grandfather, wants to adopt the child. However, they also consider it useful for his son, the child's uncle, to be a co-guardian, since the uncle is likely to outlive the grandfather. These two men would be "adoptive guardians" of the child, while "mother and father" would be the biological parents.
I agree. I do know in most states when a child is adopted they are issues a new birth certificate and the adoptive parents names are on it and the original birth certificate is destroyed. I think for the child’s benefit your idea is a good one.