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Conservatives Increasingly Wary of Opposing Gay Marriage
NBC News ^ | 6/20/14 | Perry Bacon, Jr.

Posted on 06/20/2014 5:12:23 PM PDT by madprof98

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To: DoughtyOne

I think on both morality and economics we can really close the gap. We need to speak about real people and real issues. We need to use emotions the same way Democrats/liberals do, not to manipulate, but to tell the truth. We must tell the real story and do it with passion.


41 posted on 06/20/2014 7:14:23 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

I agree.

There are plenty of great arguments to be made.


42 posted on 06/20/2014 7:18:35 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: madprof98

We’re all “openly gay” homosexuals now.


43 posted on 06/20/2014 7:32:12 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: madprof98

I read today that 30% of babies are born to unmarked mothers.


44 posted on 06/20/2014 7:38:02 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: nascarnation

Free bennies for sexual degenerates. Glorifying and applauding anal sex, only because the GOP is too damn cowardly to take a stand for real Americans. Stick a fork in both parties. I’ll vote Constitution Party in 2016 if RINOs are still in charge in Washington. And I could care less if my vote is wasted. I refuse to vote for any republican that will not publically condemn queer “marriage”. It’s the stupiest thing that has ever happened to this country. How low can we sink as a nation? Glorifying sodomy.


45 posted on 06/20/2014 7:39:35 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("Truth is like a lion. You don't have to defend it. Let it loose. It will defend itself")
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To: madprof98

Seriously, what is the point? How do you stop raw judicial power? These are all federal judges, you can’t recall them, you can’t vote them out. The supreme court isn’t going to rule otherwise, and you’ll NEVER repeal it even if you manage to get the SC back in 10 years.

The organizations like NOM are standing strong, and there are still battles, but they are unfortunately more about protecting the fighters on our side from being captured and killed, so to speak. When people are getting fired, getting banned from employment, getting ordered into slavery for gay couples, just for supporting our side, and when you can’t win legislatively anyway, why not tell people it’s time to lay down your weapons and surrender, and live to fight another day.

It would be nice to maintain a stronger front, but our battle is now on the public relations front, since the courts have once again taken political decisions out of the hands of the people.

We are left to fight the consequences, which aren’t really about gay marriage since let’s face it, the total number of gay people who would actually get and stay married is not going to be large — it’s all the stuff that comes with it, we need to protect people like the bakers and the donors.

I AM NOT SAYING anybody here should stop fighting. I am saying I understand why people have stopped fighting. I live in a state where we banned civil unions by constitution, and now our AG has refused to defend our laws, and a judge has thrown them out.


46 posted on 06/20/2014 7:51:11 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: skeeter

you nailed it


47 posted on 06/20/2014 7:57:44 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Kenny

Well put.


48 posted on 06/20/2014 8:48:49 PM PDT by Nea Wood (When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination.-Sowell)
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To: lightman; FatherofFive
The conservative who opposed “civil unions” or some other mechanism by which gay couples could have the same privileges and protections as heterosexual married couples bear some responsbility.

DING DING we have a winner. As a conservative and a Catholic I got reamed out on this site over that very position.

You want spousal rights over a legal fiction, great go for it, but you sure as HE!! are not going to call it a marriage and you are not going to force anyone into allowing it in a Church.

49 posted on 06/20/2014 11:08:35 PM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: yongin

Yes, and NOW Rand Paul is out basically ripping Cheney and, by proxy, supporting the CLOWN in the White House.

What a chump.


50 posted on 06/21/2014 2:26:52 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: narses

Well written letter by the Archbishop.

Thanks for posting.


51 posted on 06/21/2014 2:31:40 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: madprof98

Consider the source. We are more certain than ever that this is NOT healthy for any human.


52 posted on 06/21/2014 6:07:28 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: DoughtyOne

I think Mike Lee has done a very good job of articulating some of those. The trouble with the GOP is the corporatists who donate money, planes, vacation homes and yachts to our “top men” are hedonists and materialists themselves. They are more liberal than the average Republican and the leadership cannot stop lapping milk from them.


53 posted on 06/21/2014 12:37:14 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

I agree with that.


54 posted on 06/21/2014 1:10:28 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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