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Republicans: Now is the time to admit you were wrong about the Iraq War
The Week ^ | 06/20/2014 | Michael Brendan Dougherty

Posted on 06/20/2014 6:21:46 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Hillary Clinton is doing it. Glenn Beck did it too. And Dick Cheney? Not so much.

This is the season for admitting you were wrong on Iraq in 2003. And all Republicans who either regret their vote to authorize the invasion of Iraq, or who were silent on foreign policy matters back then, should take this occasion to step up and say they'll never make the same mistake twice. To them I say: Do it for the sake of your conscience, and if not that, at least for the sake of your career.

In the Obama years, Republicans have habituated themselves to being noncommittal on policy questions. They are for cutting the budget, somehow. They are for repealing ObamaCare and replacing it with, well, something. They want tax reform, but let's not get into the details now.

In some ways, this makes political sense. Don't give your opponents targets to hit. But the damage that has been done to the Republican brand on foreign policy is not repairing itself. Obama's faults and flubs in that area aren't giving the GOP an advantage either.

So say it loud and proud: Iraq is a mess. We helped to make it that way. But we have no business putting American treasure, honor, and lives between ISIS and Nouri al-Maliki.

There's no better time than now, when the die-hard hawks are urging "re-engagement." Some of you were not in national politics at the time. South Carolina's Mark Sanford once said that he was against "preemptive war." Now that he's back in Congress, he should take the occasion to shout that out.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaedaspring; blametheneocons; cutandrun; dnctalkingpoints; fuathyrio; glennbeck; hillaryclinton; iraq; obamalegacy; prodictator; proislamist; republicans
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1 posted on 06/20/2014 6:21:46 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

How about the Republicans agree to do it only after ALL the Democrats who voted for the war admit they were wrong first?


2 posted on 06/20/2014 6:24:00 PM PDT by Arlis
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ll admit this. Obastard caused the mess we have now and lost our hard fought gains


3 posted on 06/20/2014 6:24:29 PM PDT by Viennacon (Liberals are like vomit in a lot of ways)
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To: SeekAndFind

Michael Brendan Dougherty is an idiot. Hillary’s never been right about anything in her entire wretched life.


4 posted on 06/20/2014 6:24:36 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

ISIS Reportedly Captured Saddam’s Chemical Weapons Stockpiles, Attacks Key Refinery
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3169938/posts

Did Saddam Have WMDs After All: ISIS Overruns Iraq Chemical Weapons ‘Mega-Facility’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3169960/posts


5 posted on 06/20/2014 6:26:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million for ANY 2016 pro-2nd Amendment candidate.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Besides, what difference at this time can it possibly make!


6 posted on 06/20/2014 6:26:30 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m not a republican anymore, but I won’t be apologizing for the US going to war with Iraq.

Hussein used wmd’s against his own people, supported terrorist activities, threatened the US and her allies, and did not uphold the agreements regarding inspections following the Gulf War.

Had we not gone in, Hussein could have made good on those threats.

It’s always easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.


7 posted on 06/20/2014 6:26:48 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: SeekAndFind
Republicans: Now is the time to admit you were wrong about the Iraq War

The war was NOT wrong. It was wrong not to make it an Israeli overflow parking lot.

8 posted on 06/20/2014 6:27:02 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: SeekAndFind
But the damage that has been done to the Republican brand on foreign policy is not repairing itself.

It's been almost seven years and they're still blaming Republicans for Obama's mistakes.

9 posted on 06/20/2014 6:27:06 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: mac_truck

And Beck is helping them.

I heard Beck recently say with my own ears that he came out for homosexual marriage before zero did.

Beck is a mess.


10 posted on 06/20/2014 6:28:45 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey look! Islamic terrorists have found warehouses in Iraq filled with Saddam Hussein’s Weapons of Mass Destruction!!!

Isn’t now the perfect time for the Republicans to admit they were wrong about the war in Iraq?

****

These people are nuts.


11 posted on 06/20/2014 6:28:45 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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To: SeekAndFind

So now that O Drama ruined the Iraq War Win by Bush, there is a need to erase that as having been wrong. And the 550 metric tons of yellowcake found in Iraq and sold to a Canada company, shall we get that returned to Iraq? No apology needed.


12 posted on 06/20/2014 6:29:20 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Reddy

I flew missions over Iraq in the 1990s, thru 2001. I was shot at many times. The idea that we were at peace with Iraq in 2002 boggles my mind. I have no idea how many times I was shot at before the second Gulf War, but the first hadn’t ended anything...


13 posted on 06/20/2014 6:29:23 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Left wing. Right wing. One buzzard.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So, when do they admit they were wrong about giving nuclear reactors to North Korea?


14 posted on 06/20/2014 6:29:34 PM PDT by CommieCutter ("For an idea to be too simplistic, it must first be proven wrong" --Thomas Sowell)
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To: Caipirabob

Spot on, old chap!!!


15 posted on 06/20/2014 6:30:20 PM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Nope. Taking out Saddams regime was the right thing to do then and it remains the right thing now. Just because things go bad doesn’t mean that the original decision was wrong. Sure, some decisions can be proved wrong by history, but this isn’t one of them.

It burns me that Obama has screwed up what was a pretty well solved situation in Iraq. That sucks. What was wrong was pulling out too soon.


16 posted on 06/20/2014 6:32:42 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: SeekAndFind

I was not in favor of taking out Saddam Hussein. But I’ll say the democrats need to admit they’ve been wrong about Obama.


17 posted on 06/20/2014 6:34:09 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I always thought we were probably not going to accomplish what Dubya set out to do. He was idealistic. He thought bringing democracy to a land that had never known anything but kings, dictatorships, and religious fanaticism would uplift the Islamic world and help guide them out of the 7th century.

I hoped his dream would come true, but deep down I doubted, and still doubt, that Muslims are capable of anything but kings, dictatorships, and religious fanaticism. That religion is simply not compatible with freedom and tolerance. Its very foundations are built on the denial of both those ideas.

Not only can they not accomplish this sort of life in their own lands, but they chip away at it whenever they come to lands that have accomplished it. That religion is a cancer. I'm sorry, but it just is.

18 posted on 06/20/2014 6:35:04 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Ramius
What was wrong was pulling out too soon

That's what screwed the pooch.

19 posted on 06/20/2014 6:35:10 PM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: SeekAndFind

and who armed ISIS?


20 posted on 06/20/2014 6:35:43 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Mr Rogers

Guess we were supposed to keep the Iraq No Fly Zone for an eternity then. Even under the no fly zone Saddam launched an attack on the Kurds.


21 posted on 06/20/2014 6:38:11 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Reddy

I like Beck at times but he needs to shut up. Even if I thought liberals were right about ONE or TWO things I would not give them ANY credit because they will lie about the other 98 things they’re wrong about.

These liberals were all over the map about Iraq, especially after 9-11.

These same liberals that are supposedly right about Iraq would have supported the same war, with the exact series of events, had Clinton or Obama conducted it with MSM press support. So there is no need to help them. If you want to change your mind on Iraq then do so, but don’t give these evil people any credit.


22 posted on 06/20/2014 6:38:32 PM PDT by CommieCutter ("For an idea to be too simplistic, it must first be proven wrong" --Thomas Sowell)
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To: SeekAndFind

What I find remarkable is people forget we WON this war....we left Iraq in relative peace, as much as you can achieve or expect....

Yes, it cost far too much blood and treasure, but we won dispite the democrats best efferts to undermine it...

The current situation there is a direct relationship to Obama failed foreign policy blunders....mainly with his failed Arab Spring initiatives....


23 posted on 06/20/2014 6:39:45 PM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SeekAndFind

What I find remarkable is people forget we WON this war....we left Iraq in relative peace, as much as you can achieve or expect....

Yes, it cost far too much blood and treasure, but we won dispite the democrats best efferts to undermine it...

The current situation there is a direct relationship to Obama failed foreign policy blunders....mainly with his failed Arab Spring initiatives....


24 posted on 06/20/2014 6:39:45 PM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Iraq war was always wrong and always unwinnable. It was premised upon lies and utopian fantasies. Obama’s a piece of Shiite, but Iraq is Bush’s disaster and will always have his name on it.


25 posted on 06/20/2014 6:42:51 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: CommieCutter

Glenbeck so desires to be loved by the Liberals.


26 posted on 06/20/2014 6:43:18 PM PDT by MNDude (In Heaven pizza is from Chicago and there are no politicians. In Hell...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Iraq has/had a chance. Now, let’s talk about your two heroes Hillary and Obama and their destruction of the government in Libya. That clusterf**k was screwed up right from the start and it’s only getting worse.


27 posted on 06/20/2014 6:44:31 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SeekAndFind

Attacking Iraq was overwhelmingly justified.

We removed one of histories worst dictators who was a threat to our security.

Rebuilding Iraq was a add on and a risk. We knew it might not work.

Obama is to blame for not negotiating the status of forces agreement which would have given the Iraqi army intelligence and probably prevented the Isas take over.


28 posted on 06/20/2014 6:45:23 PM PDT by garjog (Obama: bringing joy to the hearts of Terrorists everywhere.)
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To: SeekAndFind

this is the moment that obama withdrew the troops for...


29 posted on 06/20/2014 6:46:28 PM PDT by Homer1
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To: MNDude
"Glenbeck so desires to be loved by the Liberals."

More $$$$$

30 posted on 06/20/2014 6:47:23 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: MNDude

Yeah..I don’t know what his deal is.


31 posted on 06/20/2014 6:47:49 PM PDT by CommieCutter ("For an idea to be too simplistic, it must first be proven wrong" --Thomas Sowell)
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To: SeekAndFind

I supported going into Iraq. Where GWB and I parted company was that I didn’t support staying there to rebuild Iraq or take on the impossible task of trying to bring about democracy there.

Right now, except for a very clear national interest, I don’t support liberating or saving muslims.


32 posted on 06/20/2014 6:49:17 PM PDT by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Why?

Because Ubama fumbled the ball?

33 posted on 06/20/2014 6:49:51 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bulls**t. Now? Why now? Because you [author] say so? I think it would be a much better time, oh, say, 73 days from now. Yeah, I like that date better.

I would say now is the time for you [author] to admit that finding the WMDs that GWBush “lied” to you about which you are so damn smart to say were “never there” but despite the wonderful and thorough (and ironically named) “UNinspection” are “actually there” and seeing that they are now in Jihadi hands which was the primary reason for our invasion of Iraq, now that this scenario has indeed become a reality...perhaps now is instead the time for you to admit that you cannot accept any kind of disparate view from your own because of your own diverse, egalitarian, yet bonehead blind idiocy and inability to come up with a single original thought.


34 posted on 06/20/2014 6:50:17 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: Reddy

“I heard Beck recently say with my own ears that he came out for homosexual marriage before zero did.”

I wonder how he squared his “conversion” with his Mormon faith?
Guess he and Reid have formed another “offshoot.”


35 posted on 06/20/2014 6:50:41 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What chemical weapons? Saddam didn’t have any.


36 posted on 06/20/2014 6:50:45 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yeah, just ask the media.


37 posted on 06/20/2014 6:51:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million for ANY 2016 pro-2nd Amendment candidate.)
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To: Romulus

The Iraq war was right.
Quit trying to rewrite histiry.

Now head back to du, and stay there where you’re wanted


38 posted on 06/20/2014 6:54:08 PM PDT by Post5203 (For the first time in my life, I despise this country.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It was right to attack any person or group or nation that aided and abetted the persons involved in 9/11 or those who underwrote, supported, or aided them.

That is my conclusion, but it isn’t my conclusion only. It is also the conclusion of the US Congress that voted in session a joint resolution containing roughly those words.

Reprisals should have been launched and people and nations taken down.

It was in nation building that I objected to the strategy.


39 posted on 06/20/2014 6:54:44 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Will the Kenyan admit that Obamacare is a disaster?


40 posted on 06/20/2014 6:56:36 PM PDT by Libloather (Embrace the suck)
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To: Reddy

Don’t forget he was firing missiles at our pilots on a routine basis. If ever grounds existed for going to war against a dictator they existed for going to war against Saddam Hussein. Every other dictator in the world got the message after 9/11 not to take any sort of hostile action against the United States with the exception of Hussein. Given that, we had no choice but to go to war against him.


41 posted on 06/20/2014 6:56:55 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ll admit it when the Rats admit that Obama is trying to destroy the country.


42 posted on 06/20/2014 6:58:09 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If Bush hadn’t put us there and then pulled in the UN to help destroy multiple weapon caches,,THOSE weapons would be in the hands of ISIS right now. Apparently that is what this author was hoping for.


43 posted on 06/20/2014 6:58:12 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: Arlis

When is Obama going to admit that he backed the wrong side in Libya, Egypt, and Syria?


44 posted on 06/20/2014 6:59:07 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: CommieCutter

Last night I heard them on the radio. Once again, he was talking about how conservatives and liberals should set their differences aside and walk hand in hand.


45 posted on 06/20/2014 7:01:12 PM PDT by MNDude (In Heaven pizza is from Chicago and there are no politicians. In Hell...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not wrong in going there just wrong in not doing the job right.
Then I am not sure the America people have what it takes to do the job right anymore.....
We are not our grandfathers that is for sure........


46 posted on 06/20/2014 7:02:20 PM PDT by 48th SPS
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To: Mr Rogers

Thank you for your service, sir.


47 posted on 06/20/2014 7:04:08 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: VerySadAmerican

lol Yes, the republicans should admit they were wrong about the Iraq war when the democrats admit they were wrong about zero. lol

The only problem is, it’s comparing apples to oranges because we were not wrong to go to war with Iraq, but zero has always been a total failure.


48 posted on 06/20/2014 7:06:27 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: MNDude

He is living in a dream world.


49 posted on 06/20/2014 7:07:13 PM PDT by CommieCutter ("For an idea to be too simplistic, it must first be proven wrong" --Thomas Sowell)
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To: SeekAndFind

From NY Times Article: How many people did Saddam kill?

The terror is self-compounding, with the state’s power reinforced by stories that relatives of the victims pale to tell — of fingernail-extracting, eye-gouging, genital-shocking and bucket-drowning. Secret police rape prisoners’ wives and daughters to force confessions and denunciations. There are assassinations, in Iraq and abroad, and, ultimately, the gallows, the firing squads and the pistol shots to the head.

DOING the arithmetic is an imprecise venture. The largest number of deaths attributable to Mr. Hussein’s regime resulted from the war between Iraq and Iran between 1980 and 1988, which was launched by Mr. Hussein. Iraq says its own toll was 500,000, and Iran’s reckoning ranges upward of 300,000. Then there are the casualties in the wake of Iraq’s 1990 occupation of Kuwait. Iraq’s official toll from American bombing in that war is 100,000 — surely a gross exaggeration — but nobody contests that thousands of Iraqi soldiers and civilians were killed in the American campaign to oust Mr. Hussein’s forces from Kuwait. In addition, 1,000 Kuwaitis died during the fighting and occupation in their country.

Casualties from Iraq’s gulag are harder to estimate. Accounts collected by Western human rights groups from Iraqi émigrés and defectors have suggested that the number of those who have “disappeared” into the hands of the secret police, never to be heard from again, could be 200,000. As long as Mr. Hussein remains in power, figures like these will be uncheckable, but the huge toll is palpable nonetheless.
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Using a satanic arithmetic, prison governors worked out how many prisoners would have to be hanged to bring the numbers down to stipulated levels, even taking into account the time remaining in the inmates’ sentences. As 20 and 30 prisoners at a time were executed at Abu Ghraib and elsewhere, warders trailed through cities like Baghdad, “selling” exemption from execution to shocked families, according to people in Iraq who said they had spoken to relatives of those involved. Bribes of money, furniture, cars and even property titles brought only temporary stays.


50 posted on 06/20/2014 7:08:24 PM PDT by Portcall24 (aer)
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