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Welcome to the White House's Nightmare
National Journal ^ | June 19, 2014 | James Oliphant

Posted on 06/21/2014 12:51:43 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Already swamped by domestic and foreign crises, Obama finds that even his self-proclaimed successes are at risk. That's just about the last thing he needs now.

Of all the things to rise up and bedevil President Obama again, Iraq seemed to be low on the list. But now the White House must live with the reality that, almost three years after the war was declared over, American blood could be spilled anew in a conflict that could readily escalate.

Obama's announcement that up to 300 military advisers would be sent to Iraq marks a brutal moment in a brutal stretch for this presidency, one that threatens to indelibly stain not only his foreign policy record but his legacy as well.

This was a man who, as a candidate and as a chief executive, made pulling the United States out of two intractable wars in the Middle East central to his theory of governance. He ended wars, he liked to say. He didn't start them.

Sending a relative handful of forces back to the region doesn't mean he's doing so, of course. "American forces will not be returning to combat," Obama was sure to pledge to the public Thursday, and White House aides insist that this is a limited mission, that the Iraqi government, ultimately, will have to be the ones to repel the forces of the Sunni insurgency and mend the broken country. Still, the move is a tacit acknowledgment that many of the assumptions that Obama and his foreign policy team made about the world have proven to be incorrect:

◾That without the leverage of U.S. military power in the country, Iraqi leaders would pursue political change that wouldn't leave Sunnis alienated and antagonized and that its security forces could counter internal threats;

◾That Afghanistan would be stable enough for the U.S. to end that war and depart with confidence the government can keep the nation on a stable path;

◾That the U.S. could pursue a "reset" with Vladimir Putin's Russia—but then watched his troops take Crimea and threaten the rest of Ukraine;

◾That the civil war in Syria could somehow be contained within its borders—and could reach a resolution without American intervention.

More than anything, these events and others have served as a rebuke to Team Obama's worldview that a new generation of leadership could move on from both the Clinton-era and Bush-era policies. Both of those administrations were more hawkish and aggressive about the exercise of American power, whether it was to intercede in regional conflicts in the Balkans or take down Saddam Hussein's regime in Iraq.

Disdainful of much of Washington's foreign policy establishment, Obama and his close-knit circle of advisers, on the other hand, talked about engaging Iran diplomatically, using sanctions to punish bad actors, "pivoting" to Asia, and neutralizing the threat of terrorism more bloodlessly through the use of drones. They viewed American power in terms of limits. This was a president, after all, who opposed the U.S. "surge" that arguably stabilized Iraq to the point where Obama could pull the troops out.

Yet here was Obama on Thursday using the language of presidents past such as John Kennedy and George W. Bush, talking of sending "advisers" into a global hot spot and warning of the need to deny "safe haven" to terrorist groups. "Right now, this is the moment when the fate of Iraq hangs in the balance," he said—something that sounded So 10 Years Ago.

That's why Obama's remarks had to have left such a bitter taste. Iraq was a box that his administration had checked. And already, the unrest there is casting fresh doubt on his decision to leave Afghanistan just a few years removed from calling for his own "surge" there. Americans are giving his handling of foreign policy the lowest marks of his presidency. With Syria on fire, Egypt and Libya in turmoil, and Russia meddling in Ukraine, the world has reached up and pulled the once-soaring avatar of change crashing earthward

The White House's best hope is that a political solution can indeed be reached in Iraq and that the crisis falls off the radar screen. Other than targeted airstrikes, there aren't great options for Obama beyond this point: The public is dead set against a further involvement and Congress—especially Obama's fellow Democrats—is skittish. If the president wants to do more on this battlefield, he'll end up owning this in a way he never wanted and, a few years ago, probably couldn't have contemplated.

(VIDEO-AT-LINK)


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; isis; obama; wot

1 posted on 06/21/2014 12:51:44 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

1/2 the American people bought lies in 2008 and again in 2012, lock, stock and barrel.

Welcome to reality, liberals. For the few that may have awakened; the very few.


2 posted on 06/21/2014 1:00:00 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
one that threatens to indelibly stain not only his foreign policy record but his legacy as well.

Obama has a foreign policy record, but it is one of failure. Can some liberal please point out for me something that Obama has done that can truly be considered to be a success?

3 posted on 06/21/2014 1:04:03 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This group thinks ‘If we say it so, that makes it so”. Right. Remember Recovery Summer of 2009? We are still ‘recovering’ from the unemployment.


4 posted on 06/21/2014 1:10:05 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: F15Eagle

Whats Oliphant been smoking? Nightmares? Bull. The One is having nothing but sweet dreams as the media and donks slobber all over him and praise him to the sky no matter what he does.


5 posted on 06/21/2014 1:16:58 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Barack Obama is destroying the United States.

Pure and simple.


6 posted on 06/21/2014 1:19:51 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: chessplayer

Maybe in some alternate universe The One is having nightmares, but not in this one.


7 posted on 06/21/2014 1:22:30 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Some of them have not yet figured out that the premier loves chaos.

Or, it’s possible that a few are pretending not to realize it and write in the form of making it sound like they confused. I suspect a couple here and there, no one in particular, are doing just that.


8 posted on 06/21/2014 1:24:30 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Jack Hammer

And setting the Middle East on fire yet again.

Witness what has happened in Egypt, Libya ... but with Iran, he watched as their people died in the streets at the hands of their mullahs.


9 posted on 06/21/2014 1:25:45 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

AND THE WALLS CAME TUMBLING DOWN! ! ! ! !


10 posted on 06/21/2014 1:28:17 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country! ! !)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

300 advisors? Can anybody say “mission creep”?

This is how we went, step by step, into Viet Nam, under Kennedy.

Our troops should not be in the Middle East. They should be in Mexico, the Honduras, Guatemala, Panama and Nicaragua. Pacify those countries so it safe for their children to go home.


11 posted on 06/21/2014 1:28:54 AM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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To: Cowboy Bob
Can some liberal please point out for me something that Obama has done that can truly be considered to be a success?

The prob Bob, is that they can't think in reality. It's all abstracts for them.

13 posted on 06/21/2014 1:32:30 AM PDT by onona (I’ve pretty much given up on sanity returning.)
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To: alloysteel
Our troops should not be in the Middle East. They should be in Mexico, the Honduras, Guatemala, Panama and Nicaragua. Pacify those countries so it safe for their children to go home.

There you go ! America for the Americans ! (Monroe Doctrine, look it up)

14 posted on 06/21/2014 1:35:39 AM PDT by onona (I’ve pretty much given up on sanity returning.)
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To: Jack Hammer

Oops, I left off Syria.


15 posted on 06/21/2014 1:48:09 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What else should one expect from a black narcissistic man-child illegal alien Marxist from Kenya?


16 posted on 06/21/2014 1:48:49 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: F15Eagle

That’s okay - Obama didn’t.


17 posted on 06/21/2014 2:05:06 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One tough sell is explaining how ISIS now possesses Iraqi WMD that never existed, ‘cause Bush lied, people died....


18 posted on 06/21/2014 2:15:00 AM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“He ended wars, he liked to say. He didn’t start them. “

Same dude that claimed he were rather good at killing people, right? Seems to be a wee bit of cogitative dissonance going on there - not exactly surprising in a hard left Progressive.

The only answer to that is that classic picture of Presidents in their uniforms, if anyone has it kicking around. Even Carter were a bit of a hard case at times by all accounts, though he should never have run more than a squad. Good officer, terrible CO. It happens, as you know full well.


19 posted on 06/21/2014 2:15:23 AM PDT by EC1
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To: EC1

“...;limited mission.”
Americans get killed.


20 posted on 06/21/2014 2:29:32 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s Obama’s playground, and America’s nightmare.


21 posted on 06/21/2014 3:22:07 AM PDT by sirjohn
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The “Nightmare” entered the White House on January 20, 2010.


22 posted on 06/21/2014 3:28:02 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As James Taranto of the WSJ often asks: Why do bad things always happen to him?


23 posted on 06/21/2014 3:32:49 AM PDT by jocon307 (These people are (some Polish word) crazy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

At the end of the day....Obama “vision” of how the world should work will get more people killed then any other POTUS in modern times....

World Marxism is a really crappy foreign policy....


24 posted on 06/21/2014 3:46:42 AM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...one that threatens to indelibly stain not only his foreign policy record but his legacy as well.

His "legacy" is shattered if the United States, by some miracle, survives his administration.

25 posted on 06/21/2014 3:48:16 AM PDT by stevem
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"political solution" ?? The naivety. The hubris - these people want to remove the heads of their enemies with box cutters. What "political solution", Barry?

How do you know US Forces "won't be returning to combat" - you got a crystal ball or something? They will surely be attacked if at all possible. I wonder if Barry's ROE includes no ammo provided to his "advisers" ??

26 posted on 06/21/2014 3:55:11 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority everac)
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To: atc23

Thanks.


27 posted on 06/21/2014 3:58:46 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama either knew or his advisers where int eh dark...but we built up ISI Forces in Syria all the while their ultimate goal was to take back Iraq from the Shia...no other primary purpose was sought - and they will NOT stop until they kill Maliki and rest on the borders of Iran...all the while Saudi, Qutar, and Bahrain entities pay this Salafist to stay up there and fight and not come down the coast to cut their heads off and seize control of Mecca and the rest of the oil for their prized Calaphate!

Watch it happen - just like German and Japanese aggression in the 30’s....until we we were attacked by “surprise” did we commit to war....geez...it’s so plain to see what the Sunni community wants - and it’s not a nation run by Shia!


28 posted on 06/21/2014 4:33:59 AM PDT by BCW (Amazon: "Babylon's Covert War" - the Iraq conflict explained in detail)
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To: chessplayer

“o” could slap the Pope on the town square and the MSM would spin it HIS way!


29 posted on 06/21/2014 5:01:46 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obama owns Iraq now.

His supporters need to drink big gulps. This is what you signed up for. Just own it. Stop whining.

30 posted on 06/21/2014 5:21:25 AM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: alloysteel

Kind of reminds you of how Nam got started. With lbj calling the bombing runs from the WH. Not letting the Brass on the ground make the decisions. Got a lot of men KIA. That first Platoon that was sent in was slaughtered as they were under prepared and our manned. The enemy had 20 yrs of fighting an the French, all the tunnel infrastructure was already in place for them to hide and strike from, they knew their truf and we didn’t. Plus they were guerrilla fighters, while we had regimented trained soldiers.

Brass still fight the last war, not the current.

Our Troops don’t need to be in 25 hot muslim spots either.


31 posted on 06/21/2014 5:29:12 AM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

soetoro is an islamist involved in islamist shiite designed to weaken and destroy the United States.


32 posted on 06/21/2014 5:48:57 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Jack Hammer

With the help of the Democratic Party


33 posted on 06/21/2014 6:18:42 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Our poor, young President is so picked upon. This is so unfair.


34 posted on 06/21/2014 6:38:03 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

OK , I’ll admit it right here ,, didn’t read the article or any replies ..
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This is what Obama wants ,, “I can be much more flexible after the election.” ,, his negotiated pullout from Iraq and Afghanistan lead to this.. it was planned.

This gives Putin control of the Iraqi oil which makes Lukoils Iranian contracts much more valuable ...

Obama gets the US weakened at the “right point” in his presidency ,, just in time for his exit.

Obama will not retire to Hawaii ,, he’ll be partying in Cuba ...


35 posted on 06/21/2014 6:42:43 AM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

we should pull all troops out and let them kill each others. That hell hole is not worth one more American life.


36 posted on 06/21/2014 6:42:57 AM PDT by stockpirate (Only a tidal wave of tyrants blood will return our tree of liberty......)
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To: Cowboy Bob

please point out for me something that Obama has done that can truly be considered to be a success?
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You are confusing stated goals and real goals ... this is his greatest success. We will have $12/gallon gas, poverty that makes the great depression look like a picnic and multi-front wars .. The USA will be neutered and communist thugs will expand their influence globally.


37 posted on 06/21/2014 6:45:57 AM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Cowboy Bob

“Obama has a foreign policy record, but it is one of failure. Can some liberal please point out for me something that Obama has done that can truly be considered to be a success?”

Sorry but you are totally wrong about this, Obama has been very successful as President, why you are wrong is you are using a conservative measuring stick not the liberal one. By liberal standards and goals he has been the most successful POTUS since FDR.


38 posted on 06/21/2014 6:51:35 AM PDT by stockpirate (Only a tidal wave of tyrants blood will return our tree of liberty......)
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To: AlexW

What else should one expect from a black narcissistic man-child illegal alien Marxist from Kenya?
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You want a real answer? The rule of law is dead here ... He is angling for a two tiered thugocracy with the lower class (which includes the former middle) as wage slaves with food stamp cards supporting his $100,000,000.00 vacations.. You can also expect the USA to be mightily humbled by impossibly expensive energy while the USSR under Putin and his worldwide allies expand their influence.

I’m coming to join you Alex ,, I’ll be in CDO and am expanding the fish farm in Agusan del Sur...


39 posted on 06/21/2014 6:52:00 AM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Popman

At the end of the day....Obama “vision” of how the world should work will get more people killed then any other POTUS in modern times....

World Marxism is a really crappy foreign policy....
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Since there’s no “thumbs up” button I’ll just repost you and give you an attaboy..


40 posted on 06/21/2014 6:53:47 AM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: All

Of all the things to rise up and bedevil
President Obama again, Iraq seemed to be
low on the list.


That’s true...if you’re a dumb ass. The rest of us knew it was simply a matter of time before Iraq imploded. And not much time, at that.


41 posted on 06/21/2014 2:34:48 PM PDT by pluvmantelo (Democrats:the party of moral hazard, the IRS, the NSA and the heckler's veto)
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To: kevao
‘cause Bush lied, people died....

Did you see where faucetman used that line? Jim only had one word for him, "boom".

42 posted on 06/23/2014 2:12:15 PM PDT by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate)
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