Posted on 06/21/2014 2:21:02 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) said it can't provide emails sent between 2009 and 2011 that were requested by congressional investigators because of hard drive crashes.
The agency said that emails stored on dead drives were lost forever because its email backup tapes were recycled every six months, and employees were responsible for keeping their own long-term archives.
The IRS had a contract with email backup service vendor Sonasoft starting in 2005, according to FedSpending.org, which lists the contract as being for "automatic data processing services." Sonasoft's motto is "email archiving done right," and the company lists the IRS as a customer.
In 2009, Sonasoft even sent out a Tweet advertising its work for the IRS...
(Excerpt) Read more at reason.com ...
Help me out here. Is there something in that data that I am missing?
The people who say “nothing is going to happen” are just telling you that they are not going to do anything themselves.
Government backups live forever. Getting things back can be troublesome but email archives are the easiest to get back.
Order the NSA to give up what they have since they record everything.
I wonder how many people have died to keep those emails hidden.
In our company they tell us emails are forever. I compare this to the discovery of the secret tape machine in Nixon’s White House basement.
I find your tagline to be most interesting because Nixon said he could give the word, in his day, and 80% of the U.S. population would be killed. One has to believe the methods have been improved upon since Nixon’s time for killing the U.S. population.
The Congress needs to kick it up a notch. They need to pursue this destruction of evidence. I can barely contain myself when I think of it. They dilly dallied for a year or more, while proof of wrongdoing was apparently destroyed. This must be fought, no matter the consequences.
As many as was necessary.
I had said before yesterday's hearing that they needed the head of IT sitting next to Koskinen. I did not watch every minutes, but I have not seen that they really drilled down on SOP of data retention. There were several opening for precise followup of his answers, but most of the committee seemed determined to follow his own script.
Frustrating.
I never heard of that.
I'll agree and I'll agree because this defines whether or not ALL Americans are Free or Slaves of Government.
Was reported during the Watergate hearings.
The IRS would have to have some transaction with the big electronic storage companies. Here are the transactions between the Dept. of Treasury and IBM for 2000 to 2012:
Here it is for EMC:
http://www.fedspending.org/fpds/fpds.php?&combDuns=001368083&maj_agency_cat=20&record_num=f500&detail=2&datype=T&reptype=r&database=fpds&sortp=d
The IRS is the second largest purchaser in the Dept. of Treasury. The list is divided by years, so go down the page to see all the years. IBM and EMC and other storage companies can’t afford to be connected with lost data, if they are doing the storage for the IRS.
Here’s what they are claiming. Which is BS and violates records management policy.
6 month of email on the server was backed up.
Individuals had very small mailboxes on the server. Meaning they could only keep a few emails before not being able to send or receive new email.
Users moved email to a local .pst file on their PC. This moves it from the server to the PC.
After 6 months the only copy of the email is on the PC of the user. So when a hard drive crashed it was the personal PC hard drive that crashed. And no backup was kept.
Now they expect us to believe the hard drive on six key people crashed and had completely unusable data on them. This is complete BS.
The reason is transparent if you think on it.
The administration must hide at all costs the e mails from Lois Berry to Barack Obama’s Blackberry
Put IBMs twice in above post
Exactly.
Politics these days is about getting rich not about SERVING your country.
AND...we're the ones who let it get this way.
I worked for the Army for 34 years before retiring. All large government agencies are required to have a “COOP” (I believe the acronym stands for “Continuation Of Operations Plan”.) Basically, the COOP requires the agency to have all of their information backed up and stored on separate servers located in a different geographic area so that it can be restored in the case of some catastrophic event such as a fire, earthquake, etc. The IRS, like all of the other agencies, has the data readily available despite the fact that Lois Lerner’s computer cashed, and her hard drive was conveniently thrown away.
I believe that is an accurate summation of the IRS story. What has yet to be revealed is the nuts and bolts of their backup and archiving protocols. I have not heard a peep about off site storage which, as we know, every business worth its salt does as a matter of course - perhaps, are required by statute to do (not 100% clear on that)
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