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Obama moves to save the honey bees, targets pesticides
http://washingtonexaminer.com/obama-moves-to-save-the-honey-bees-targets-pesticides/article/2550000 ^ | June 20, 2014 | Paul Bedard

Posted on 06/21/2014 4:07:51 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

President Obama on Friday announced plans to save endangered honey bees and other pollinators, for the first time ordering a probe into new types of pesticides that some local governments and 15 European Union nations have restricted or banned.

The long-awaited plan creates a “Pollinator Health Task Force” that has 180 days to come up with a plan to save bees, butterflies and other pollinators. The goal is to rid fields of harmful pesticides while planting food for the bugs, even on military bases an along railroad tracks. Virtually every Cabinet department will be included on the task force.

A key victory for the honey bee industry is Obama’s mention of “neonicotinoids,” a new type of pesticide product that many blame for the shocking loss of bees in the epidemic called “colony collapse disorder.”

In the six-page presidential memo, the White House singled out what it wants the Environmental Protection Agency to do:

“The Environmental Protection Agency shall assess the effect of pesticides, including neonicotinoids, on bee and other pollinator health and take action, as appropriate, to protect pollinators; engage state and tribal environmental, agricultural, and wildlife agencies in the development of state and tribal pollinator protection plans; encourage the incorporation of pollinator protection and habitat planting activities into green infrastructure and Superfund projects; and expedite review of registration applications for new products targeting pests harmful to pollinators.”

Some members of the EU voted last year to restrict the use of pesticides that include neuroactive neonicotinoid chemicals. Three are in use: clothianidin, imidacloprid and thiametoxam.

Pollinators, mostly bees, are responsible for much of what grows on farms.

In a related move, the Agriculture Department said it would spend $8 million to establish new habitats for honey bees in Michigan, Minnesota, North Dakota, South Dakota and Wisconsin.

"American agricultural production relies on having a healthy honey bee population," said Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack. "In recent years, factors such as diseases, parasites, pesticides or habitat loss have contributed to a significant decline in the honey bee population. This $8 million is part of the administration's ongoing strategy to reverse these trends and establish more plant habitat on Conservation Reserve Program lands to restore the bee population."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: honeybees; nannystate; obama; pesticides
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1 posted on 06/21/2014 4:07:51 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: SheLion; Eric Blair 2084; -YYZ-; 31R1O; 383rr; AFreeBird; AGreatPer; Alamo-Girl; Alia; altura; ...

Nanny State PING!


2 posted on 06/21/2014 4:08:09 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Border Crisis = Cloward-Piven, Chicano-style!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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3 posted on 06/21/2014 4:09:07 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

All HIEL KING BAM BAM


4 posted on 06/21/2014 4:10:24 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I guess that’s it for honey bees then.


5 posted on 06/21/2014 4:11:25 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Habitat loss?

Honeybees aren’t even native to this continent and will thrive just about anywhere as long as they have food. Besides, I thought it was recently determined that numbers were rebounding.


6 posted on 06/21/2014 4:12:22 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This is one move Obama has made that I agree with.

(Hey, in six years, he makes a lot of moves: he was bound to get one right sometime.)


7 posted on 06/21/2014 4:12:56 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

“This is one move Obama has made that I agree with.”

Well just dont let it happen again ;-)


8 posted on 06/21/2014 4:15:07 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Look for the Mooch with a #Bringbackourbees sign. Coming soon.


9 posted on 06/21/2014 4:19:19 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Feed the wacko enrviromentalists to the starving polar bears.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Waste of time and money!

GMO crops are what is killing the bees.
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10 posted on 06/21/2014 4:20:20 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ...
Agenda 21. No pesticides = 1/3 less food to market.

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don't add you to the list...

11 posted on 06/21/2014 4:21:55 PM PDT by null and void (In this war, the front line is at your front door...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Bees have a striped tail.

Kind of like a gay rainbow.

What’s not to “love”?


12 posted on 06/21/2014 4:22:03 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (You can count my felonies by looking at my FR replies.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The long-awaited plan creates a “Pollinator Health Task Force” that has 180 days to come up with a plan to save bees, butterflies and other pollinators.

Bees are important. But, based on O's track record, I expect the plan to read something like, "Let's put the Central American kids to work with pollinating paintbrushes, give them citizenship for their valuable service, and our crops will be OK. And by the way, no more pesticides." /S

13 posted on 06/21/2014 4:24:25 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Welll, We were watching a program about bees on TV It was in China that a farmer was not getting his fruit trees pollinated and he had no fruit. The farm bureau said it was because there were no bees. They told him he would have to pollinate the flowers himself. So he climbs up on a ladder with a feather tied to a stick and pollinates the flowers himself.
Bee’s are dying all over the world and they are vital for food production unless we want to put all these illegal aliens to work pollinating flowers.


14 posted on 06/21/2014 4:25:57 PM PDT by Vinylly (?%)
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To: 9YearLurker

I would argue that a bigger threat to wild honey bee populations would be the increased market demand for honey. This necessitates more commercial colonies and more commercial colonies means more pressure for the available nectar required to sustain wild colonies. Spraying pesticides on nectar sources surely doesn’t help I’m sure.


15 posted on 06/21/2014 4:31:18 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Honey bEEs photo: BEES!!! BEES.gif
16 posted on 06/21/2014 4:43:20 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If (and we know how big a word that can be) the category of pesticides targeted are genuinely responsible for “hive collapse” and other honey bee population issues, then it’s probably wise to limit their use and seek alternatives where possible. Honey bees are a big part of the pollination process for certain crops.

The thing is, unless there is some new scientific breakthrough in this report I’m not aware of (entirely possible), it’s not absolutely proven that neonicotinoids are the villain here. There’s a lot of strong circumstantial evidence, but there are also other potential causes here, too. African mites remain an implacable foe for honeybees, and there are other diseases and parasites that are harmful to honey bees and could be driving the spike in hive collapse.

So, I’m going to reserve judgement on this one for now.


17 posted on 06/21/2014 4:43:59 PM PDT by DemforBush (A repo man is always intense.)
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To: 9YearLurker

Under which particular law is this order lawful? Might as well ask yourself that question before you support it.


18 posted on 06/21/2014 4:44:55 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Border Crisis = Cloward-Piven, Chicano-style!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

No bees, no food. All he’s doing right now is setting up a ‘task force’ and encouraging some bees. Established law supports all sorts of federal regulations regarding agriculture and our food supply.


19 posted on 06/21/2014 4:48:06 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: RC one

Wild or commercial, all honey bees are apparently threatened by some of our newest pesticide poisons.


20 posted on 06/21/2014 4:49:07 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Now we know why they dropped the “colony collapse” meme. They switched targets.


21 posted on 06/21/2014 4:51:24 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

#Bring back our bees.


22 posted on 06/21/2014 4:54:38 PM PDT by Nakota
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To: editor-surveyor

Do you mean those roundup-ready GMO crops? Obama won’t touch those.


23 posted on 06/21/2014 4:58:21 PM PDT by MulberryDraw (Repeal it.)
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To: driftdiver

like a laser.


24 posted on 06/21/2014 5:02:10 PM PDT by themidnightskulker
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD) is a phenomenon in which worker bees from a European honey bee colony abruptly disappear. While such disappearances have occurred throughout the history of apiculture, and were known by various names (disappearing disease, spring dwindle, May disease, autumn collapse, and fall dwindle disease),[1] the syndrome was renamed colony collapse disorder in late 2006[2] in conjunction with a drastic rise in the number of disappearances of Western honeybee colonies in North America.[3] European beekeepers observed similar phenomena in Belgium, France, the Netherlands, Greece, Italy, Portugal, and Spain,[4] and initial reports have also come in from Switzerland and Germany, albeit to a lesser degree[5] while the Northern Ireland Assembly received reports of a decline greater than 50%.[6]

Colony collapse is significant economically because many agricultural crops worldwide are pollinated by European honey bees. According to the Agriculture and Consumer Protection Department of the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations, the worth of global crops with honeybee’s pollination was estimated to be close to $200 billion in 2005.[7] Shortages of bees in the US have increased the cost to farmers renting them for pollination services by up to 20%.[8]

The mechanisms of CCD and the reasons for its increasing prevalence remain unclear, but many possible causes have been proposed: pesticides, primarily neonicotinoids; infections with Varroa and Acarapis mites; malnutrition; various pathogens; genetic factors; immunodeficiencies; loss of habitat; changing beekeeping practices; or a combination of factors.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colony_collapse_disorder

This has been studied for several years with no clear solution. How is Obama’s Marxist dreamteam going to figure it out in 180 days? And he says we don’t believe in science. This is putting politics in front of science.


25 posted on 06/21/2014 5:08:02 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin
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To: 9YearLurker
This is one move Obama has made that I agree with.

On the surface, I'd almost have to agree.

But considering it's something obama is behind and for, I just can't shake the creeping suspicion that this is going to backfire in a way that we can't even comprehend yet.

26 posted on 06/21/2014 5:47:00 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: cripplecreek

Exactly. The rumor of the bees demise was greatly exaggerated by the leftist tree huggers. Just goes to show the level of influence that the leftist fringe element are beginning to have. With a lefty in charge and a complicit media, all things are possible.

Hey, how are the kardashians?


27 posted on 06/21/2014 5:52:35 PM PDT by Smellin Salt
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This is simply yet another reason being given for the EPA to assume more power—more power to destroy anything that they FALSELY assign some potion of the cause of the clooapse.


28 posted on 06/21/2014 5:54:46 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: metmom

SO, you would probably be ecstatic at 3 dollar a gallon gas?

My point is that they get us used to the worst case scenario, (6 dollar a gallon gas, bees disappearing etc), then when they do something, it’s all good. So we say, man I’m glad gas went down to 3.50 a gallon. I’m glad the government is doing something about declining bee populations etc etc and so forth.

Bee and bat populations are not things that executive orders should be used for. I can’t believe I’m saying this, but this should have gone through congress.


29 posted on 06/21/2014 6:00:25 PM PDT by Smellin Salt
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To: House Atreides

That too


30 posted on 06/21/2014 6:01:29 PM PDT by Smellin Salt
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To: Smellin Salt

I wonder how many beekeepers there are in America these days.

When I was a kid there were dozens of beekeepers in my township alone. Now I only know of a couple in the county. The old veggie farmer down the road from me has about 6 hives for pollinating his squash and pumpkins. He keeps a little honey for himself but feeds the rest to his hogs. He says he can’t sell it due to government regulations and competition with foreign imports. Back in the 50s he had more than 30 hives.


31 posted on 06/21/2014 6:05:25 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: 9YearLurker
I worked with a bee keeper for a couple of years.

The crop dusters were spraying with encapsulated poison. The worker bees would take the poison back to the hives and it would decimate the hive. Sometimes killing the existing queen.

It was very disheartening to say the least.

Some of the hives would not recuperate before winter and would die out. It would have a devastating impact on the honey and bee population. He sold bees as well as honey.

I sympathize with the bee keepers. The bees provide pollination for the farmers and the farmers, by spraying, decimate the hives of the bee keepers.

It's very sad from the bee keepers perspective.

32 posted on 06/21/2014 6:23:31 PM PDT by Know et al (Keep on Freepin'!!!)
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To: cripplecreek
C'mon damit!

There you go again with that fact stuff.

33 posted on 06/21/2014 6:30:04 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: 9YearLurker

yep - someone must have advised him he’s gotta do SOMEthing positive - and they figure this is as benign and safe.

Remains to be seen if it’s honest - or a double-blind to impede those who may be working to REALLY stop the poisoning of our foods - that kill the bees = without which, we will have no food.

I smell duplicity - as “O” and crowd are too far up Monsanto’s nether region to outwardly buck them.


34 posted on 06/21/2014 6:46:38 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: lowbridge

ahahaha


35 posted on 06/21/2014 6:47:10 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: null and void

This ‘community organizer’ knows about science about as in depth as he knows economics.

He does seem to do totalitarian well


36 posted on 06/21/2014 6:52:40 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This from the guy who has flies on his face and mice running around his feet.


37 posted on 06/21/2014 7:25:19 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


38 posted on 06/21/2014 8:18:24 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Destroyed out military - Check
Destroyed our Manufacturing Base - Check
Swarms of Illegals we cannot support swarming in - Check
Creating economic Chaos - Check
Lowering food production to “save” the Bees - check

Lots of Problems either being created or being made worse...

Look forward to his upcoming Reaction and Solution Phases....


39 posted on 06/21/2014 9:15:10 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Smellin Salt

I don’t get your point at all.

Did you really read my post carefully?


40 posted on 06/21/2014 9:42:15 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: null and void
No bees = 100% less food to market.

They are targeting the wrong pesticides. The GMO built ins are the problem, not the spray ons.

41 posted on 06/21/2014 9:57:35 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: metmom

I hear ya.


42 posted on 06/21/2014 11:54:04 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: maine-iac7

Could well be.


43 posted on 06/21/2014 11:55:35 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: cripplecreek

Strange, about the regulations. Maybe he was referring to state regs? Here, a lot of people keep bees. The local Co-Op (farm and garden store), has everything you need to keep bees.

Every year I buy two gallons of local honey, dividing it into wide-mouth jars for easier usage. The beekeeper also makes a huckleberry and honey mixture that is beyond delicious. You can find honey from various local producers in every store. There is no regulation problems in northern Idaho.

We can also go into a grocery store and find fresh, raw cow or goat milk, lightly pasteurized and/or homogenized or not...

I have borage, mints and other bee favorites planted in areas bordering my food gardens. I feed the bees. ;) The wild bumblebees are a riot. They can smack into you, then slowly “bumble” away in a circular, bizarre manner of flight. 

Yellow-jackets and hornets get the tennis-racket death if they bypass the traps. Amend that- the hornets get whacked, but seem to still survive a zillion-volts to their ends more than not, unless you hit it hard enough. My husband found an underground yellow-jacket nest that was bigger than a football. Vinegar, “neat”, did it in. The commercial spray only irked the hive.


44 posted on 06/22/2014 12:06:42 AM PDT by hearthwench (Debbi - Mom, NaNa, and always ornery)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I think this would be a great idea:

Test all pesticides on politicians first. Dip themin it, roll them in it. Put it in their food and drink. No additive-free ‘baccy either.

If they live afterwards with no apparent side-effects, then commence with human trials.


45 posted on 06/22/2014 12:15:48 AM PDT by hearthwench (Debbi - Mom, NaNa, and always ornery)
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To: rawcatslyentist
No bees = 100% less food to market.

Cereals don't require bees.

46 posted on 06/22/2014 4:16:03 AM PDT by null and void (In this war, the front line is at your front door...)
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To: metmom; 9YearLurker
9YearLurker ~ This is one move Obama has made that I agree with.

metmom ~ On the surface, I'd almost have to agree.

But considering it's something obama is behind and for, I just can't shake the creeping suspicion that this is going to backfire in a way that we can't even comprehend yet.

EVERYTHING obama does either:

a) Weakens America/Americans
b) Distances America's allies
c) Strengthens America's enemies
d) Serves Islam
e) Harms Israel
Or some combination of the above.
I have yet to have anyone raise a single substantive counter example in several years of posting this.
47 posted on 06/22/2014 4:20:59 AM PDT by null and void (In this war, the front line is at your front door...)
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To: null and void

How do you see this bee task force as fitting that meme?


48 posted on 06/22/2014 4:35:06 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Eliminate pesticides and roughly one third of all food grown is consumed or damaged by insects.

Food prices for Americans skyrocket, weakening our economy.

Food exports to our friends and allies plummet. Weakening our relations with our allies.

Our allies are forced to trade with our enemies, strengthening their economies and influence.

The “progressives” couldn’t care less how many 3rd worlders starve, any more than they give a wit how many millions of 3rd worlder die year after year after year because if the DDT ban.

Historical footnote:
Do you know why Indonesia is predominantly muslim? Krakatoa. The volcanic ash wiped out agriculture. Muslims brought “charity”, convert to islam and we’ll feed you. Otherwise, starve infidel, starve.


49 posted on 06/22/2014 8:41:48 AM PDT by null and void (In this war, the front line is at your front door...)
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To: null and void

Nobody is suggesting that all pesticides be banned.


50 posted on 06/22/2014 9:24:13 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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