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Obama gives order to protect bees and bats
The Hill ^ | June 20, 2014 | Justin Sink

Posted on 06/21/2014 5:01:14 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

President Obama is hoping his latest executive action will create lots of buzz.

Obama signed a presidential memorandum on Friday ordering the federal government to develop a plan for protecting pollinators such as honey bees, butterflies, birds and bats in response to mounting concerns about the impact of dwindling populations on American crops.

"The problem is serious and requires immediate attention to ensure the sustainability of our food production systems, avoid additional economic impact on the agricultural sector, and protect the health of the environment," Obama said in the memo, which was sent to Cabinet secretaries and agency heads.

According to the White House, the number of bee colonies in the United States has declined from 6 million in 1947 to 2.5 million today. Some crops, including almonds, rely almost exclusively on pollination from honeybees, and honeybee pollination alone is responsible for $15 billion in value every year.

Although scientists can't fully explain why bee colonies are dying off, a combination of stressors, including the loss of their natural habitats and exposure to certain pesticides, is thought to be responsible.

Under the president's order, the government will establish a new task force tasked with developing a "coordinated research action plan" to help better understand and prevent the loss of pollinating species.

Government agencies will also be tasked with developing plans to enhance habitats for pollinating species on federal lands. And agencies will partner with local governments, farmers, and the business community in a bid to increase the quality and availability of available habitats for the species.

Additionally, the president has requested $50 million in his 2015 budget for the Department of Agriculture to help study and prevent pollinator loss.

"Given the breadth, severity, and persistence of pollinator losses, it is critical to expand federal efforts and take new steps to reverse pollinator losses and help restore populations to healthy levels," Obama said. "These steps should include the development of new public-private partnerships and increased citizen engagement."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bats; bees; obama; pesticides

1 posted on 06/21/2014 5:01:14 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The boy is a loon.


2 posted on 06/21/2014 5:02:31 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Feed the wacko enrviromentalists to the starving polar bears.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Obama gives order to protect moonbats.

There fixed it.


3 posted on 06/21/2014 5:03:56 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Clearly this urgent crisis requires the government to adopt sweeping new powers over private property and enact massive new taxes.

What was the problem again?


4 posted on 06/21/2014 5:04:30 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: FlingWingFlyer

the only thing that will protect us would be if he was to trip and fall down the steps of Air force one and break his neck


5 posted on 06/21/2014 5:05:11 PM PDT by mt tom
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

wind farms slaughter bats.


6 posted on 06/21/2014 5:06:07 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (we shouldn't fear the government. the government should fear us.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Bee habitat ——— We’re gonna plant flowers.


7 posted on 06/21/2014 5:06:36 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

And sgt. Tamorese still sits in a Mexican prison...priorities.


8 posted on 06/21/2014 5:08:10 PM PDT by bike800
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Angry mIchelle Obama photo: Obama Inauguration t1homeobama47cnn.jpg " ... and I do hereby swear to protect the bees and bats."
9 posted on 06/21/2014 5:09:43 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: bravo whiskey

I’m all for protecting useful wildlife like bees, bats, birds, etc., and you’re right that banning big solar and wind farms makes sense. That Obama and his cronies do the opposite for ideological reasons is yet more proof they can’t be trusted on this, either.


10 posted on 06/21/2014 5:11:41 PM PDT by Argus
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I give up . You can’t explain this crap to anyone


11 posted on 06/21/2014 5:14:16 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“The boy is a loon.”

No kidding!

With all the problems his policies have caused you would think he would shut the hell up and hide. Instead he thinks this is important when many people can’t find jobs!


12 posted on 06/21/2014 5:16:33 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: FlingWingFlyer
The boy is a loon.

You pretty much summed it up in five words.

I was gonna use three more.

WTF!!!

13 posted on 06/21/2014 5:18:30 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....should' Nuff said!)
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To: kcvl

We’ve got a “humanitarian tragedy” going on along our southern border and Barry is worried about the birds and the bees. What a pathetic moron.


14 posted on 06/21/2014 5:19:26 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Feed the wacko enrviromentalists to the starving polar bears.)
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To: Argus

White nose disease is another killer of bats.

As for bees, I was reading that the loss of beekeepers is a much bigger factor than anyone mentions.


15 posted on 06/21/2014 5:20:01 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Birds and bees regulations!


16 posted on 06/21/2014 5:20:23 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: cripplecreek

It is a sting operation.


17 posted on 06/21/2014 5:20:51 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Just when you think he can’t get more absurd he proves us wrong again!


18 posted on 06/21/2014 5:21:58 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: SheLion; Eric Blair 2084; -YYZ-; 31R1O; 383rr; AFreeBird; AGreatPer; Alamo-Girl; Alia; altura; ...
BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!

Nanny State PING!

19 posted on 06/21/2014 5:24:54 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Border Crisis = Cloward-Piven, Chicano-style!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

If our bees die, we will have a major humanitarian crisis.


20 posted on 06/21/2014 5:36:13 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

...here it comes a ban on pesticides....closing down the petro-chemical-pesticide industry.


21 posted on 06/21/2014 5:37:55 PM PDT by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: Argus

Meanwhile, the US southern border is being overrun, as is Iraq. But them bees and bats is OK.


22 posted on 06/21/2014 5:43:50 PM PDT by Smellin Salt
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Well, a story I can comment on with some level of personal knowledge:I’m a beekeeper.

The problems facing bees and beekeepers are primarily economic. Beekeeping has never been particularly profitable and with the increased hive mortality it’s driven out a lot more beekeepers. Add cheap imported honey, and it’s not a pretty picture.


23 posted on 06/21/2014 5:47:15 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Be a part of the American freedom migration: freestateproject.org)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Yeah, but about those aborted kids ....


24 posted on 06/21/2014 5:52:55 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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To: Oliviaforever

Absent some really wretched bee malady, the bees will be fine. The problem with honeybees is primarily economic: it doesn’t pay enough when you factor in the increased hive losses. So beekeepers have been getting out of the trade. A related problem is loss of forage and access to areas where bees can get enough food.


25 posted on 06/21/2014 5:52:58 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Be a part of the American freedom migration: freestateproject.org)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Obama is rather bat-like (look at his head and ears). So does this mean he gets to hang around another four years?


26 posted on 06/21/2014 6:02:15 PM PDT by fivecatsandadog (OBAMA .... .....WORST.... PRESIDENT......EVER)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Obama gives order to protect bees and bats

Maybe he could send his well-armed civilian defense force to bodyguard them.

27 posted on 06/21/2014 6:20:22 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Control the Food, Control the People!

In the near future, my beehives will be illegal, as will growing ourf own food.

Rat B@stard!

870 days to go! Will America survive this?


28 posted on 06/21/2014 6:27:17 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Obama signed a presidential memorandum on Friday ordering the federal government to develop a plan for protecting pollinators such as honey bees, butterflies, birds and bats in response to mounting concerns about the impact of dwindling populations on American crops.

Reading this convinces me no matter what problems bees and bats may have, this zero order will without question make it worse.

29 posted on 06/21/2014 6:31:21 PM PDT by Fzob (Jesus + anything = nothing, Jesus + nothing = everything)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The Emperor signs yet another royal decree. Yea Yea I say.


30 posted on 06/21/2014 6:41:20 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Any plan they come up with will cost jobs and taxes. Nature will do it better and cheaper.


31 posted on 06/21/2014 6:56:39 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

“Absent some really wretched bee malady, the bees will be fine.”

That is simply not accurate.

Varroa mites are a serious threat and in the 30 or so years they have been on the continent have wiped out 90% of feral bee colonies.

Moreover, domesticated bees are also threatened by varroa and often lose 33% of their hives per year.


32 posted on 06/21/2014 7:11:14 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I know some beekeepers.

The situation is serious....no bees = no pollination = no fruits and vegetables.

Or worse, Chinese imports.


33 posted on 06/21/2014 7:26:06 PM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: Oliviaforever

Like I say, it’s an economics issue. I lose hives like everyone else does. But since I never kept bees in the good old days before varroa, it’s simply something I/we deal with. And the bees do seem to building a tolerance. Few of the beekeepers I know bother to treat. I’m actually the exception as I do treat for varroa. And still lose 20% plus over the winter.

We’re catching a fair number of swarms in my area and the feral bees seem to be doing better. The folks who do cut outs are busy. Truth be told I dont think the feral swarms are all that great of a thing. Honeybees are not native to the US and there are lots of other native bees, some usable as pollinators like the orchard bee.


34 posted on 06/21/2014 7:33:07 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Be a part of the American freedom migration: freestateproject.org)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


35 posted on 06/21/2014 8:18:43 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: RKBA Democrat
If I understand it right the problem is even in controlled safe & protected environments such as man made hives they are dying. Right? The beekeeper may come out and one hive be dead or all the hives he has. There is still plenty of natural habitats throughout the nation and that doesn't seem to have anything to do with this as such. Bees will nest in basically anything including abandoned man made bee hives.

One sure way to set back any and all progress in discovering the cause of the problem is to put the feral federal government in charge or be the coordinator of the research. It sounds more like an immune issue than other causes.

36 posted on 06/21/2014 8:36:28 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

So _arak O_ama want us to save the Bs — I’ll do my part.


37 posted on 06/21/2014 8:42:22 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

But wind machines are OK to chop up eagles and other birds? How about using the Obdumbos as organic fertilizer? That would be very green, a far better use than “leader” and moocher.


38 posted on 06/21/2014 11:26:22 PM PDT by EinNYC
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Dude, wadya gonna do after college?

Yo, bro... I'm like gonna be the prez and save the bees and bats...

That's like so cool, dude.

39 posted on 06/21/2014 11:35:22 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Yep!

He’s the half black Prince Charles.


40 posted on 06/21/2014 11:47:45 PM PDT by dixiechick2000
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
This is a serious problem, but I do not trust the government to come to any correct answers, because they will ask the wrong questions, based upon incorrect assumptions.

1. Bee colonies have been decreasing in numbers since WWII.

2. What else has been decreasing or lost entirely since WWII?

A, DDT, then later, more & more pesticides, have disappeared or been dramatically curtailed.
B. Airborne aerosols have been dramatically decreased by increasing government regulations.
C. Phosphates have been removed from most cleaning products; and phosphate fertilizer runoff has been drastically reduced. (So much phosphate has been removed that streams are now phosphate deficient, threatening fish populations and leading to huge increases in “rock snot”)¹
D. Lead has been removed from gasoline.
E. NOx has mostly been removed from auto exhaust gasses.
F. Wood smoke from stoves, fireplaces, etc has been reduced or even eliminated in most areas of the country

Each of these has been incrementally implemented, with subsequent tightening of each of the previous regulations limits. As these measures keep becoming more numerous, as well as all becoming more stringent over time, bee colonies
become fewer and fewer, at an increasing rate.,

CONCLUSION: lOSS OF BEE COLONIES IS CLOSELY CORRELATED WITH GOVERNMENT MEASURES TO “REDUCE POLLUTION” AND TO “CLEAN UP” THE ENVIRONMENT!

SOLUTION: ABOLISH THE CLEAN AIR AND CLEAN WATER ACTS, AND THEIR RESULTING REGULATIONS; BRING BACK DDT AND OTHER BANNED PESTICIDES; PUT THE LEAD BACK IN GASOLINE!

¹ While growth in most types of algae is stimulated by high levels of phosphorus and other nutrients, didymo blooms take place when phosphorus levels are present in streams in low concentrations, due to human-induced environmental changes.

Thanks to climate change, rock snot won’t be slipsliding away - See more at: http://www.wvgazette.com/article/20140510/GZ01/140519950#sthash.GqDITKeF.dpuf

41 posted on 06/22/2014 12:35:49 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
We’ve got a “humanitarian tragedy” going on along our southern border and Barry is worried about the birds and the bees.

Oh, he knows all about that. DHS put out a bid notice for people to escort 65,000 illegal alien unaccompanied children in January, so that has been planned for a while now...

Birds and bees are just another curtain to hide behind while they are pulling levers in DC.

42 posted on 06/22/2014 12:51:25 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: cripplecreek

There is a case of some guy in Eastern Washington who started “winterizing” his bees.

He basically puts the hives in a humongous freezer and lets them sit till it warms up.

His bees are doing stunningly well!


43 posted on 06/22/2014 1:35:22 AM PDT by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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To: EinNYC
How about using the Obdumbos as organic fertilizer?

Are you kidding me? Their minds are so rotten, the fertilizer would kill anything planted in it or nearby.

44 posted on 06/22/2014 2:32:03 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Border Crisis = Cloward-Piven, Chicano-style!)
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To: Uncle Chip

I have no Bs in either my screen name or my real one, so I cannot help at this time. Damn shame, too.


45 posted on 06/22/2014 2:49:01 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Border Crisis = Cloward-Piven, Chicano-style!)
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To: djf

This winter and spring were rough on bees locally. We had a dry April and didn’t get May flowers.


46 posted on 06/22/2014 3:23:43 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Well atleast you can rest assured that you are not part of the problem oops pro_lem.
47 posted on 06/22/2014 4:24:10 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: cva66snipe

Bees have a much better chance of surviving when tended by a beekeeper. If they are not tended their chances of successfully overwintering are thought to be in the 1 in 10 range. Although my personal belief is that they’re doing better than that in recent years. Depending on how good the beekeeper is and how good the stock, the weather, and whether the bees are moved around for pollination, you can keep your losses down to the tolerable range of less than a third. What folks don’t think about (and we as beekeepers wisely downplay) is that bees reproduce prolifically. Tripling your existing hives in a year is easy. Some beekeepers who intensely manage their hives, use some methods that are beginning to take hold, and who propagate their own queens are able to increase their hives almost exponentially. So, let’s say you have 10 hives and suffer a horrible loss rate of 50%. That’s 5 hives. But you intensively manage and quadruple your hives. At the end of the next year you have 20 hives. Now, it won’t be a greatly rosy picture as the most productive hives are 2nd year hives. But as you can see, predictions of the end of honeybees are greatly exaggerated.

And I agree that about the worst thing that can happen to bees is that they be subject to some sort of Federal regulation to help. We’re actually seeing the honeybees doing better. So I think the efforts are a day late and a dollar short. The bee informed numbers for this year were about 30% overwinter losses in spite of a really cold winter. That’s a significant improvement over last year.

Again, the issue here is economics. One thing that we’re finding is that migratory beekeepers have the most problems. Taking a bunch of bees and moving them to chase pollination schedules is very hard on bees, spreads bee diseases, etc. it also makes the bees a lot more susceptible to pesticide or FUNGICIDE kills. But that problem is being solved by economics. Beekeepers who chase the pollination schedules are charging a lot more than they were 5 years ago, charging pesticide surcharges, refusing bees to farmers who are spraying during the pollination season, and in general being a lot more picky in the contracts they take. Hobby beekeepers are having nothing to do with chasing pollination contracts, and are effectively voting with their feet.

The sudden interest in pollinators at this point is in my opinion just more crony capitalism in action. Large corporate farmers who are practicing large scale monoculture farming are having to pay a hefty price to those bothersome beekeepers who are also effectively vetoing some of their practices. The beekeepers actually have some leverage for the first time, and we can’t have that now, can we?


48 posted on 06/22/2014 5:48:27 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Be a part of the American freedom migration: freestateproject.org)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Everything is an economic issue.

And I agree with everything you have said, but we Beekeepers must accurate data to the public about what they real problems are for bees and beekeeping.

The mites and Nosema are by and large the major problems for the bees but the neonics and CCD are getting all the popular media attention.

Both of those are issues, but we above all else, the mites must be addressed not only on the micro level of every beekeeper but among the public and any research that is conducted.

I first kept bees in the early 1980’s and my one beekeeping lesson consisted of, “Go catch your swarm, but them in a hive, when you think the hive is full of bees add your supers. If they get real aggressive, get a new queen, but other than that, they will be okay.”

I get back into beekeeping in the 21st century and it is much more difficult.

Re-queen every year and a half to prevent Africanization.

Do a hive inspection every two weeks and check for mites, moths and if your queen is still there.

I am up to ten hives now and it is just a hobby, but I find the more honey I give away, the more friends and family come out of the woodwork wanting honey.

It’s a fun hobby but I don’t see how people can make money from beekeeping, bit when I think about how they may make money, it scares the hell out of me and I will never consume bought honey again.


49 posted on 06/22/2014 2:54:00 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: Oliviaforever

Absolutely, but keep in mind that the problems are somewhat regional. Here in VA, we have mites but for most beeks they just aren’t the horror they were years ago. I don’t even bother with mite counts. We don’t have nosema to any significant extent and so far have avoided AHB. On the other hand small hive beetles are an utter scourge, we’ve been having problems with EFB and we have short, intense nectar flows that keep production low. But all in all, for an insect that is allegedly going to die out, I’ve run out of equipment and space to handle the splits my hives are generating.

One thing that is interesting about VA though is that for all the disagreements beeks tend to have, there is a sort of broad agreement that out of state packages are a bad idea, and local survivor stock bees are the gold standard. We also have no migratory beekeepers to speak of so we don’t get to participate in the annual post almonds bee pathogen festival. Probably why nosema just isn’t encountered that much.


50 posted on 06/22/2014 5:57:39 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Be a part of the American freedom migration: freestateproject.org)
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