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IRS contracted with email archiving company in 2005
American Thinker ^ | 06/21/2014 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 06/21/2014 5:33:27 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Is that a smoking gun  I smell?  It turns out the IRS contracted with a company that provides email backup services starting in 2005.  This first came to light in the Twitter feed of moregenr, who noticed that the IRS appears on the client list of email  archiving service provider Sonasoft.

The IRS is listed as a customer of Sonasoft software - "Email Archiving Done Right" http://t.co/DoRYpk6n2R
— Morgen (@morgenr) June 20, 2014

This was was picked up by Peter Suderman of Reason, who writes:

The IRS had a contract with email backup service vendor Sonasoft starting in 2005,according to FedSpending.org, which lists the contract as being for "automatic data processing services." Sonasoft's motto is "email archiving done right," and the companylists the IRS as a customer.

In 2009, Sonasoft even sent out a Tweet advertising its work for the IRS. 


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: email; irs; irsemailarchives; irsemailcontract; irsteapartyscandal; lerneremails; loislerner

1 posted on 06/21/2014 5:33:27 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I wish this had legs but I don’t see it going anywhere. The state controlled “media” are more worried about U.S. Border Patrol officers meeting their sh*tty diaper changing quotas at the “humanitarian tragedy” fiesta going on along our southern border.


2 posted on 06/21/2014 5:36:58 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Feed the wacko enrviromentalists to the starving polar bears.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve been saying this on every board I’ve been on, the government is required to archived. If the emails are lost, it’s on purpose. Some techie at that company was told to DoD erase and then destroy that hard drive.


3 posted on 06/21/2014 5:37:47 PM PDT by 12th_Monkey (One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Well, they could subpoena the relevant people at the archiving company to testify. That would be a good step.


4 posted on 06/21/2014 5:38:44 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: 12th_Monkey

When you write an e-mail, it goes to your server to be sent to the person you e-mailed. Your server keeps a copy of that e-mail, and of all your e-mails – sent and received. When you create all the folders in your e-mail program that you use to save e-mails in...these are also stored on your server.

I use Gmail, so my server is a Google server. These servers are large machines, and they most often run the Unix operating system.

Unix has several features for doing regular backups – both incremental ones and full backups. The standard operating procedure for any IT Systems Administrator is to create automatically – daily incremental backups and once a week did a full backup. Back then, store them to tape, and these tapes were then archived for future use if needed.

Lois Lerner’s e-mails exist on those backup tapes from her server. Focusing on her computer’s hard drive when emails are concerned is a RED HERRING.

Lois Lerner’s hard drive is not the only source for her e-mails. They exist on her server in the archived backups.

GO GET THEM !!


5 posted on 06/21/2014 5:42:45 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Still, if some IRS dude or dudette calls the archiving company and says “lose those backups”, their GONE. Disk, tape or stone tablet, their gone. Wouldn’t be surprised if a body doesn’t turn up.....

Investigate the company that did the archiving.


6 posted on 06/21/2014 5:52:48 PM PDT by 12th_Monkey (One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Remember Chinagate, Emailgate, Northrup Grumman and Mrs Crabtree?


7 posted on 06/21/2014 5:55:31 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Yes, nothing has legs unless it pierces the Entertainment Tonight bubble.


8 posted on 06/21/2014 6:02:52 PM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bump


9 posted on 06/21/2014 6:07:20 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Good summary of how normal e-mail operations are performed. The crash of Lerner’s and other conspirators are red herrings for the naive.


10 posted on 06/21/2014 6:15:02 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Surgeon General Warning: Operation of Government Motors vehicles may be hazardous to your health)
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To: SeekAndFind

A list of their government clients. See any agency you recognize?

Government

Abington Police Department

The Bureau of Engraving and Printing

California Dept. of Parks and Recreation

California Public Utility Commission

City of El Monte

City of San Jose

City of Newport Beach

Cherry Aerospace

Internal Revenue Services (IRS)

Juneau Police Department

Mahoning County

Pima County, Arizona

SF Department of Public Works

South East Texas Reg. Planning Commission

Township of Middletown New Jersey

US Army Corps of Engineers


11 posted on 06/21/2014 6:17:51 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: SeekAndFind

If it was your job to make the emails and their ‘footprints’ disappear, can it be done?

Also the ‘dead drive’ may be a red herring.
After much time and effort ther recover ‘not so much’.
Now that they have had time to rewrite the old emails.

Can it be done?


12 posted on 06/21/2014 6:25:56 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: SeekAndFind

IRS Emails Backed Up by Outside Email Archiving Company (SonaSoft)

http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/06/outside-email-archiving-company-backed-irs-emails/

VIDEO: SonaVault Email Archiving & eDiscovery Demo (SonaSoft)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjlF9UJblzY&feature=youtu.be


13 posted on 06/21/2014 6:27:37 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: FlingWingFlyer; SeekAndFind

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/610292/posts


14 posted on 06/21/2014 6:27:43 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where?)
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To: SeekAndFind

What about allknowing NSA?
They keep copies of everything, subpoena the records and see wasaaap!


15 posted on 06/21/2014 7:55:49 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (FReeeeepeesssssed)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

What I don’t get is that email only a small portion of a typical management job. There had to be word docs, spreadsheets, proposals, written policies, presentations, job reviews, resumes, etc.. etc... We are expected to believe that you lose a hard drive you lose everything? Utter bull.

If all her documentation was backed upped on a file server, so was her .pst file. No IT person is stupid enough to backup everything but email (even if this seems a little redundant because they were using a mail server). You can never have enough backup.

The claim is that at the time emails were stored on a backup tape only for three months. And that tape was destroyed after 90 days.

O.K. even if true (as stupid as this sounds), why didn’t they immediately recover her emails from backup when the hard drive was replaced? It was replaced the same day of the crash.

Why even attempt to recover the files off of the hard drive? They had an intact backup at the time the crash. Every single email was on a backup tape at the time. Their explanation makes absolutely no sense. The sad part is we are too stupid to ask the right questions.


16 posted on 06/21/2014 8:31:04 PM PDT by BushCountry (If you're wondering, "I got my screenname before GW was elected the first time.")
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To: SeekAndFind
And in other news at 11:

Lois Lerner's Hard Drive "Crashed" Ten Days After House Ways & Means Chairman David Camp Made His First Inquiry About Targeting Conservatives

17 posted on 06/21/2014 8:37:46 PM PDT by QT3.14 (NSA: The only government entity that really is intrested in what you say.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I heard Meagan McCardle (sp?) interviewed on NPR today, and it sounded a little fishy. She would like us to believe that the IRS server had room for only some number of MB of email data for any one person, and if they wanted to keep more than that, they’d have to download them to a file on their own computer which deleted it from the server.

That sounded awfully convenient, timewise, for Lois Lerner and awfully convenient, timewise, as a new reason just coming out today for why they weren’t on the big email computer in the sky. Oh, that’s right, awfully convenient, timewise, times six for the other people who happened to be doing “personal archiving” at the same time.


18 posted on 06/21/2014 9:05:13 PM PDT by jiggyboy
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To: jiggyboy

Ah here we are. (BTW, can we pass a law to allow us to scream at somebody who begins an answer to a question with “so...” ?)

“So what they did was bad IT management, but it is not uniquely bad IT management. Basically, what they had done is they had set the server so that in 2009, only 150 megabytes worth of mail could be stored in a mailbox. The result of that was that people either had to delete or archive their email. And where they archived it was on their local hard drive. What they say happened is that Lois Lerner was archiving stuff on her local hard drive. That hard drive failed catastrophically. They were unable to recover the emails. And before anyone really knew that this was going to be a target of a congressional investigation, that hard drive was taken out and thrown away because you don’t keep bad hard drives around.”

http://www.npr.org/2014/06/21/324222831/with-irs-email-lost-could-be-more-alarming-than-a-cover-up


19 posted on 06/21/2014 9:08:27 PM PDT by jiggyboy
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To: SeekAndFind

Get the word out about this.

Nobody in DC knows about it./s

That corrupt bunch of scumbags! Sitting there, doing nothing while Obama destroys the country!!


20 posted on 06/21/2014 9:10:28 PM PDT by jch10 (The Democrat mascot shouldnÂ’t be the donkey; it should be the tick.)
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To: SeekAndFind

ping


21 posted on 06/21/2014 9:24:08 PM PDT by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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To: jiggyboy

I hate to say it, but that does sound similar to the Air Force system. Senior leadership does have a much higher limit, but they also have a higher email volume. If you want to keep emails without exceeding your limit on the Exchange server, you move them to a ,pst on your hard drive, which you hopefully (but probably don’t) back up periodically


22 posted on 06/21/2014 9:55:01 PM PDT by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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