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After success in Iraq and Syria, ISIL will find it tougher to crack Jordan
The National ^ | June 19, 2014 | Taylor Luck

Posted on 06/21/2014 6:48:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Lost in the flurry of rambling threats to Iraq’s Shiite community during its surprise military blitz last week, the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) issued an even bolder statement: a call to arms in Jordan.

Emboldened by its impressive gains in Iraq and southern Syria, the former Al Qaeda affiliate took to social media to announce that it would “soon bring the Islamic state” to “brothers in Jordan”.

According to senior ISIL-linked Jordanian jihadists, the former Al Qaeda affiliate has reportedly pumped $3 million (Dh 11m) into Jordan in the past month for “recruitment purposes” and to fund the medical treatment of its fighters returning from Syria.

Sharing a 370-kilometre border with Syria to the north and 180 kilometres with Iraq to the east, ISIL has identified Jordan as a vital “linchpin” to uniting its young caliphate, whose position would allow the movement to open up new routes for fighters and arms between Iraq and Syria – a move that has been singled out by its leadership as key to widening its wars on Baghdad and Damascus.

Yet even more attractive to ISIL is the 220km stretch of Jordan Valley farmland separating Jordan from Israel and the Palestinian territories – with leaders eyeing a push into Palestine and possible “liberation of Jerusalem” as key to winning over ISIL’s doubters.

In recent months, Jordanian jihadists have served as ISIL’s most vocal critics, with Abu Mohammed Al Maqdisi, who once ranked third in Al Qaeda’s leadership chain, denouncing ISIL as “deviants”.

Key salafist theologian and theorist Omar Mahmoud Othman (better known as Abu Qatada) has taken an even harsher stance, using his continuing trial in Jordan as a stage to attack the movement’s massacres of minorities and referring to its leadership as “dogs”.

The Islamic State will likely find that repeating its successes in Jordan will not be easy, as most in the country still solidly backs the Hashemite monarchy.

And, unlike the undertrained Iraqi government forces or the rapidly depleting Syrian security forces, ISIL would be up against the seasoned veterans of Jordanian intelligence and a well-trained military, who boast more than three decades of antiterror experience and have successfully infiltrated several Al Qaeda cells within Jordan and Iraq. Jordanian authorities have proven deft at applying their antiterror tools along the Syria border, arresting more than 200 suspected ISIL fighters since December last year and sentencing more than a quarter of that number.

The vast majority of Jordanians also have little appetite for the instability brought by hardline Islamist groups, a sentiment tapped into by Hussein Majali, the interior minister, who called on citizens to join the national effort to curb extremism.

Jordan has proven to be two steps ahead of the Islamic State, unleashing in April a new “pre-emptive strike” campaign along its border to prevent the movement from reaching Jordanian soil, engaging in a series of cross-border battles with suspected ISIL fighters that have reportedly left 20 dead and led to more than 100 arrests.

With a missile strike of four suspected ISIL vehicles along the Syria border last week, Jordanian officials returned the Islamic State’s warning shots and a message that ISIL’s path will face a roadblock in Jordan.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Israel; Politics/Elections; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; isis; israel; jordan; kurdistan; lebanon; russia; syria; turkey; waronterror
Then Israel, Saudi Arabia, Yemen....
1 posted on 06/21/2014 6:48:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Jordan will have the backing of Israel even if its unofficial plus we’ve got troops in Jordan now.


2 posted on 06/21/2014 6:50:46 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When are these caliphaters going to pick a caliph so we can kill him?


3 posted on 06/21/2014 6:53:32 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: cripplecreek
Jordan will have the backing of Israel

Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Turkey, and of course the US - not that US support means very much while Obama is in office.

4 posted on 06/21/2014 6:55:19 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They will soon find out the dangers of trying to fight on too many fronts at once.


5 posted on 06/21/2014 6:55:46 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: SeeSharp; cripplecreek

President Cruz will make a hard right. President H.R. Clinton? Not so much.


6 posted on 06/21/2014 6:57:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

They have new recruits coming from as far away as Minnesota, Africa, Malaysia and Indonesia every day.


7 posted on 06/21/2014 6:58:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Jordan will fold like the cheap suit it is... this article indicates a lack of understanding of the middle east in general and the blood thirsty caliphate seeking ISIS (using ISIL just avoids referencing a previous pagan religion).


8 posted on 06/21/2014 6:59:07 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

Although he’s a foreigner, he’s writing for a Jordanian newspaper and probably knows where his bread is buttered.


9 posted on 06/21/2014 7:00:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Nifster

——Jordan will fold like the cheap suit it is..-——

I might suggest you do a little research on Jordan, their people and especially their King.....

You cannot be more wrong....


10 posted on 06/21/2014 7:06:40 PM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The only reason they’ve lasted so long in Syria is because they had our help and then they beat the big guy in Iraq who looked tough but couldn’t fight. That inflated their egos and trying to fight Jordan will bloody or break the nose of ISIS.


11 posted on 06/21/2014 7:07:00 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Popman

We’ll see shortly


12 posted on 06/21/2014 7:12:06 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Popman

The king is old.....


13 posted on 06/21/2014 7:12:41 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster
The king is 52 years old. He's British special forced trained, speaks with a British accent, rides a Harley, does rock climbing and has a smokin hot queen. And most important he's a MINO who is as close to the Israelis as he can reasonably be.

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14 posted on 06/21/2014 7:20:38 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Nifster

The Current King was born in 1962....

http://kingabdullah.jo/index.php/en_US/pages/view/id/148.html

Here’s a chance to learn something...


15 posted on 06/21/2014 7:20:59 PM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Nifster

Highly unlikely. Israel will back them along with others in the region.

ISIS/ISIL or whatever you want to call them, will soon bite off more than they can chew and they will be rolled up rather easily. Their conquered “territories” will gain them very little in manpower that is reliable and they will eventually realize their limitations.


16 posted on 06/21/2014 7:30:40 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Popman
Abdullah is far more pro western than Obama.

Abdullah II royal tour of Jordan
17 posted on 06/21/2014 7:30:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes. That’s why it is/was important to understand the chosen name ISIS in Arabic, that is Islamic State in Iraq & (Al Sham). The accurate/direct translation is Not ‘Islamic State in Iraq & Syria’. It is the Islamic State in Iraq & the Levant. Al Sham in the Arab world would be immediately understood as ‘Greater Syria’ (the Levant). Syria in Arabic is ‘Souriya’.


18 posted on 06/21/2014 7:32:44 PM PDT by odds
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To: odds

The greater Caliphate. I wonder if 1 out of 100 Westerners know the meaning of that?


19 posted on 06/21/2014 7:34:42 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: cripplecreek

So is Vladimir Putin and most of Africa, what’s your point? LOL


20 posted on 06/21/2014 7:36:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

um..er..hm.. nope!


21 posted on 06/21/2014 7:36:19 PM PDT by odds
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.


22 posted on 06/21/2014 7:51:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Key salafist theologian and theorist Omar Mahmoud Othman (better known as Abu Qatada) has taken an even harsher stance, using his continuing trial in Jordan as a stage to attack the movement’s massacres of minorities and referring to its leadership as “dogs”.
Wow, that's gonna leave a mark on Iran's shills, who have spent years blaming Salafists for, well, everything.
23 posted on 06/21/2014 7:53:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: cripplecreek

He may be ‘special forces’ trained but he has never seen combat. He is a Hashemite and I grant that they have a storied history. The thing is I doubt that this group ISIS will bother Jordan until they have Iraq well and duly subjugated. The biggest problem is that Jordan’s reasonableness with Israel will end up costing them in the long run. Anwar Sadat found that out. As much as the king may or may not be willing to fight others, it will not matter if he is dead.

Their desire for a world wide caliphate is a long cherished goal. They believe that they are on the verge of having this happen. I would suggest that this is all written of long ago and that the end game does not have Jordan in a position to do anything to stop the evil that is islam.


24 posted on 06/21/2014 10:50:33 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Popman

The king is old as in old news.... his army will not protect him from assassins. His friendliness with Israel will cost him. ISIS will not attack Jordan until Iraq and perhaps several countries are subdued.

Do not kid yourself. This king has nothing extra or special that will protect his people.


25 posted on 06/21/2014 10:52:42 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Pox

Don’t count on it. And this group is stronger and much more dangerous than you know or can imagine.

I would suggest merry that pieces are falling into place


26 posted on 06/21/2014 10:54:10 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

Wait, but you said he would fold like a cheap suit...care to amend that statements ?


27 posted on 06/22/2014 3:31:59 AM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is the unraveling of the Sykes-Picot treaty between France and Great Britain from WWI. These countries will devolve into their historical religious and tribal areas. We ought to wait this out


28 posted on 06/22/2014 3:36:07 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: SeeSharp
When are these caliphaters going to pick a caliph so we can kill him?

Exactly.

We'd be much better off with the Sultan restored and living in the Topkapi Palace - with its GPS coordinates programmed into every Trident sub under the ocean.

The Turk knows how to handle the Arabs.

29 posted on 06/22/2014 3:41:27 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: cripplecreek
Abdullah is far more pro western than Obama.

Isn't that the truth...!

If only the rest of the ME was modeled after the Jordanian society...

30 posted on 06/22/2014 5:06:42 AM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Popman

no that is what will happen....


31 posted on 06/22/2014 7:00:36 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster
I can practically guarantee it. I can imagine plenty, son, and I'm not impressed by a large number of thugs running around in Iraq murdering unarmed civilians for the hell of it or beheading captured police and army personnel and planting their heads on poles along the highways.

Look at this from a historical perspective, more or less the last 40 years.

What is happening in Iraq isn't difficult to imagine considering the “state of mind” of those who have been brutally subjugated for generations. They have little to no “backbone”, and that wasn't going to change overnight.

Having someone else fight your battles did not instill within them the desire to fight for their freedom. This could be a good chance for them to “grow a pair”, but it's hard to overcome their natural instincts, and that probably will not change overnight.

On the other hand, they do not have a brutal leader like Saddam anymore that will force them to fight. Thus, you get what you see happening, along with internal “traitors” who were more than happy to accommodate the thugs who are running around killing with impunity.

These scum are making “impressive” gains not due to their strength or reputation. They are terrifying a beaten down populace that has an “infantile” military, for the most part.

Let's see what happens when they go up against a real army. If you believe you'll see anything like what you're seeing in Iraq, you're not playing with a full deck, IMO.

32 posted on 06/22/2014 7:21:05 AM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Pox

Oh no I don’t think it will necessarily look like Iraq at all..... but I do not think that Jordan has a ‘real’ army. If you said Israel then I would say you are right. The mind set of the middle east is one of subjugation....It is why Muhammad had a chance on the first place.

And you are right time will tell


33 posted on 06/22/2014 3:47:23 PM PDT by Nifster
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