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Russia Reignites The Proxy War: Putin Offers "Complete Support" To Iraq PM Scorned By Obama
www.zerohedge.com ^ | 06/20/2014 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 06/21/2014 7:50:30 PM PDT by FR_addict

Two days ago, before it was formalized that the US tacitly, if not explicitly, now supports the removal of the Iraqi Prime Minister whom it itself had helped elect, we summarized the geopolitical tensions and "national interests" in Iraq, which is shaping up to be a proxy war that makes last year's Syrian escapade pale by comparison, as follows: ...

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; iraq; israel; kurdistan; lebanon; putin; putinsbuttboys; russia; syria; tylerdurden; tylerdurdenmyass; zerohedge
Obama wants to lead from behind. Putin wants to take the lead.
1 posted on 06/21/2014 7:50:30 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: FR_addict

Completely fits with Moscow’s interests in the region, i.e., pro-Tehran, pro-Damascus.


2 posted on 06/21/2014 7:53:12 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: aposiopetic

Moscow’s interests are the same everywhere: Pro-Moscow and anti-US


3 posted on 06/21/2014 7:54:05 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

I don’t disagree, but there are places Moscow can jump in and Beijing can’t, and this is one of them. I think Washington and Moscow both are interested in beating Beijing to the punch, and, in that way, sometimes their interests overlap. Just sayin’….


4 posted on 06/21/2014 7:57:31 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: FR_addict

Totalitarians of a feather, conspire together…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsFR8DbSRQE


5 posted on 06/21/2014 7:59:34 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: aposiopetic

I think Obama and Putin both hate this country, so they’re interests sometimes overlap


6 posted on 06/21/2014 8:01:38 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

Good point. Putin hasn’t pushed for all the ‘gender’ stuff, though.


7 posted on 06/21/2014 8:04:09 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: FR_addict

That could be taken in a different way.


8 posted on 06/21/2014 8:07:15 PM PDT by Texas resident (The democrat party is the CPUSA)
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To: aposiopetic

Of course, Obama never saw this coming. Southeastern Iraq is already united with Iran in all but name. ISIL will still get what they can and can test Jordan. The worst of all possible worlds for us and Israel though Obama won’t see it either.


9 posted on 06/21/2014 8:18:38 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: FR_addict
What a mess...Our troops are over there supposedly supporting the gov't of the current president of Iraq...Obama wants to eliminate the president just as he did in Egypt and Libya...So what, our military is supposed to switch sides???

Now we support the terrorists while Russia is going to support the good guys...

10 posted on 06/21/2014 8:20:30 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool

Good guys? I don’t know about that.


11 posted on 06/21/2014 8:29:13 PM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
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To: FR_addict
At least there's some consistency in Russian foreign policy. Putin opposes Sunni jihadis in Syria, and now in Iraq.

Whereas Barry somehow supports Sunni jihadis in Syria and opposes them in Iraq.

Why no intrepid member of our MSM has inquired about this seeming inconsistency on the part of the most brilliant mind to ever occupy the WH is of course hardly surprising, since they haven't bothered to notice themselves as their lips are too firmly fixed to Barry's shiny dark posterior.

12 posted on 06/21/2014 8:33:47 PM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: FR_addict

The consequences of having elected Obama get progressively worse with each passing moment.


13 posted on 06/21/2014 8:34:21 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat

Of course some one could have impeached him or 25’d him for mental issues a while back....Instead of helping him.


14 posted on 06/21/2014 8:37:08 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: mojito

Putin wants that oil, and America out of the Middle East


15 posted on 06/21/2014 8:40:15 PM PDT by reefdiver (Be the Best you can be Whatever you Dream to be)
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To: Iscool

I’m concerned about the US personnel over there - O will hang them out to dry, Benghazi times a hundred.


16 posted on 06/21/2014 8:45:07 PM PDT by Argus
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To: FR_addict

Putin to Obama: “My pawn places your King in danger, - - - AGAIN! ROTFLMAO!!”


17 posted on 06/21/2014 9:07:56 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: JimSEA

“Obama never saw this coming”

Did Bush see it coming? Malaki the pro-Iran Shiite became president under Bush, not under Obama.


18 posted on 06/21/2014 9:31:55 PM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: Graewoulf

“Putin to Obama: “My pawn places your King in danger, - - - AGAIN! ROTFLMAO!!””

How true is that???

This not only displaces US Interests in the Middle East, but puts Russia against the forces arrayed against the Russian Proxy Syria, as well.

I can only imagine the laughing in the Kremlin when this proposal hit the table.

As I have often said before:

This is Alinsky’s “Rules For Radicals” vs. Machiavelli’s “The Prince”.


19 posted on 06/21/2014 9:36:56 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

And nary a Russian Bullet fired.

Well, maybe a few shots in the air over celebratory Vodka “Shots.”


20 posted on 06/21/2014 9:39:19 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: FR_addict

Obama plays checkers. Putin plays chess.


21 posted on 06/21/2014 9:44:29 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: mojito

“At least there’s some consistency in Russian foreign policy. Putin opposes Sunni jihadis in Syria, and now in Iraq.”

You are 100% correct, and I’ll tell you why in 3 words. Uzbecks and Khazaks.

Nasty sods, they are. Got bitten by the Jihadi bug hard and Putin does not want them messing around in the re-invigorated USSR. The more that head to Syria or Iraq or Afghanistan and get killed, the happier he is.

As stated, it’s a proxy war, but not particularly aimed at the USA in this case. Why should he bother? It’s not as if the Worm will ever stand up to Putin.


22 posted on 06/21/2014 10:16:06 PM PDT by EC1
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To: mojito

Precisely....

And upon what basis will we then oppose Russia sending troops to aid the Iraqi PM in his fight against Obama supported Sunni jihadi’s in Iraq now that we have painted them as “evil bad guys”.

This is bizzare....


23 posted on 06/21/2014 10:24:13 PM PDT by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: aposiopetic

~I think Washington and Moscow both are interested in beating Beijing to the punch, and, in that way, sometimes their interests overlap. Just sayin’….~

Not true. US foreign policy was extremely pro-Chinese since about 1970s and also anti-Russian, even after Cold War.
And it is spectacular that US can’t hold any ground it has strugled from the Russians in the last 20 years.
Central Asia is a primary example. US has effectively defeated Russian influence there but hasn’t gained any of it’s own. It is China who filled a gap.
In my opinion there is no American interest in that happened there.


24 posted on 06/21/2014 11:47:59 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: FR_addict

I can’t think of a better ploy than to lure Putin deep into that whole mess


25 posted on 06/22/2014 3:21:31 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: FR_addict

Putin laughs at Obozo’s reset and initiates his own reset of the Soviet Union.


26 posted on 06/22/2014 4:05:50 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: FR_addict

Wow, who saw this coming?


27 posted on 06/22/2014 5:25:57 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: cynwoody
Obama plays checkers. Putin plays chess.

The problem is I don't think Obama is smart enough to play checkers even.

28 posted on 06/22/2014 10:33:43 AM PDT by painter ( Isaiah: “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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29 posted on 06/23/2014 6:54:35 AM PDT by SJackson (wish I had known more firsthand about...problems of American businesspeople as a Senator G McGovern)
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To: reefdiver

The US could have been energy independent and out of that god-forsaken part of the world years ago if we only had the Will.


30 posted on 06/23/2014 6:56:37 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: FR_addict

Russia was helping Iran with nuclear facilities and other weapons over 10 years ago. Russia armed Israel’s enemies for the Six Day War and instigated the War. A few years ago, Iranian leaders promised nuclear equipment to Syria.


31 posted on 06/23/2014 2:37:13 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: depressed in 06
"Wow, who saw this coming?"

Most folks have little interest in it, as long as they aren't being affected this moment. Many others who follow politics and foreign policy are not honest enough with themselves or others to see what's coming (only concerned with what they themselves can have now without regard for consequences). Many more honest people saw it coming.

Evil ones will read the truth and slide further into evil thoughts and reactions.

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3169508/posts


32 posted on 06/23/2014 2:59:34 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: SJackson

To headlines: Good, but with reservations.


33 posted on 06/23/2014 3:48:40 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: cynwoody
Obama plays checkers. Putin plays chess.

And Persians invented chess

but>>>>

The precursors of chess originated in India during the Gupta Empire,[2][3][4][5] where its early form in the 6th century was known as chaturaṅga, which translates as "four divisions (of the military)": infantry, cavalry, elephantry, and chariotry, represented by the pieces that would evolve into the modern pawn, knight, bishop, and rook, respectively.[6]

Chess was introduced to Persia from India

34 posted on 06/23/2014 5:19:52 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: FR_addict

Hope and change! Ain’t it great?


35 posted on 06/23/2014 5:22:22 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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