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Florida governor signs five pro-gun measures into law, including ‘Pop Tart’ and ‘Warning Shot’ bills
Guns.com ^ | 6/21/14 | Chris Eger

Posted on 06/22/2014 5:34:56 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

Gov. Rick Scott approved several pro-gun bills Friday that covered everything from clarifying use of force to ending insurance discrimination against gun owners.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
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1 posted on 06/22/2014 5:34:56 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Is he going to pardon persons in jail for firing warning shots?


2 posted on 06/22/2014 5:36:12 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
Who knows but I'd bet he won't if they went downstairs to the garage, retrieved the gun from their vehicle and then went back upstairs and fired the shot.
3 posted on 06/22/2014 5:41:02 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: dirtboy

I don’t know. Wouldn’t be a bad thing to do.

I think there was a black woman in Jacksonville recently sentenced to several years for doing just that....


4 posted on 06/22/2014 5:41:10 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: liberalh8ter

it isn’t a warning then but a threat (at best)


5 posted on 06/22/2014 5:42:21 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: dirtboy

Not sure, but the woman in Jacksonville that was convicted by Angela Corey may get a new trial based on this new law. The Judge has put a hold on the proceedings to await the bill’s passage or veto before his ruling.


6 posted on 06/22/2014 5:42:30 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: SoFloFreeper

>>I think there was a black woman in Jacksonville recently sentenced to several years for doing just that....

It’s not a warning shot if you leave the room unimpeded, go to the garage to get the gun, and return to the room to fire the “warning” shot.


7 posted on 06/22/2014 5:44:44 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyranni)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I gather he didn’t invite G. Zimmerman to the signing ceremony.


8 posted on 06/22/2014 5:48:41 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: dirtboy

This is an election year, a great time to sign such legislation, but does it really mean anything other than pandering to Second Amendment voters.


9 posted on 06/22/2014 5:52:57 AM PDT by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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To: Bryanw92

Yeah, that really is a threat if not also destructive mischief. The whole context does matter. FloriDUH has gotten some DUH convictions (and some DUH exonerations) but this doesn’t look like it is in that group.


10 posted on 06/22/2014 5:54:40 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Nextrush

Yes, it does. It slaps zero tolerance idiocy across the face with an injection of common sense, and it prevents anti-gun prosecutors from prosecuting non-lethal self-defense uses of guns such as brandishment and warning shots.


11 posted on 06/22/2014 5:54:40 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Nextrush

And if you will never see anything but the cynical side of everything, your heart will soon be numb to any gift of God.


12 posted on 06/22/2014 5:55:18 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Nextrush

....and pandering to prolife recently too....

....right after he signed legislative bill to allow ILLEGALS free instate tuition


13 posted on 06/22/2014 5:58:00 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Nextrush

Yeah, I guess passing and enforcing legislation is all show.

He should’ve ignored the desires of gun owners and had a public burning of the 2nd amendment. That would’ve really shown us.

< /sarcasm>


14 posted on 06/22/2014 5:58:15 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: HiTech RedNeck

To answer your post .....(although not addressed to me)...,.I am totally open to God.....I also abide by the Rule of Law......and I wish to goodness Scott did, I voted for the guy.


15 posted on 06/22/2014 6:02:31 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Bryanw92

If he is threatening the children who are still in the room with him?


16 posted on 06/22/2014 6:04:37 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: HiTech RedNeck
it isn’t a warning then but a threat (at best)

I was following that case of the woman and her "warning shot". My opinion is that she simply missed, and then decided to claim it was a warning shot.

17 posted on 06/22/2014 6:05:39 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Guenevere

If you hold any human at all up to the perfection light that person will fall short.

And so would you (and I), but pride blinds.

Idolize nobody; but damn nobody either. If damning is needed, God will do it at the right and wise and just and proper time.


18 posted on 06/22/2014 6:06:10 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: dirtboy

He must be pretty desperate to get re-elected after helping with the railroading of George Zimmerman and agreeing to Medicaid expansion under Obamacare in his state.

Tom Corbett is trying to make some conservative noise here in PA but will use whatever bills get to his desk as bargaining chips for more tax increases.

The games politicians play.


19 posted on 06/22/2014 6:07:50 AM PDT by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Go Rick Go.
Run over Charlie Fag. . . . .
20 posted on 06/22/2014 6:08:28 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country! ! !)
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To: Nextrush

That would be a valid way to look at humanity if humanity were but robots with no other input.

But then it would have to apply to you and your own short comings too.

I speak not “in favor of Mr. Scott” but “in favor of God’s work in humanity.” The devil is constantly blaspheming the latter.


21 posted on 06/22/2014 6:09:34 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I see political shows being put on every day in this country with tough but meaningless words and symbolic laws being passed left and right to re-elect Republican politicians.


22 posted on 06/22/2014 6:10:15 AM PDT by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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To: Nextrush

And the succor will need to come from God; and perhaps it is slowly filtering in even now.

Cheering any sign of it is a good way to encourage it to happen more. Because now you are giving glory to God.


23 posted on 06/22/2014 6:11:19 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Nextrush

” railroading of George Zimmerman”

How did Gov Scott do that exactly?


24 posted on 06/22/2014 6:11:20 AM PDT by V_TWIN (white pri)
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To: Nextrush

uh huh.


25 posted on 06/22/2014 6:12:28 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Guenevere

I guess some of the folks on this thread are Dream Act supporters and want in-state tuition for illegal immigrants.

The big money that supports GOPe politicians like Rick Scott does, along with amnesty for illegals, plus Common Core for schools as well.

As for Pro-Life, here in Pennsylvania, the word is that Planned Parenthood gets advance notice of when their abortion clinics will be inspected after a supposedly tough new “pro-life law” (Act 122) was passed last year.

“Pro-Life” Governor Tom Corbett or his administration have not commented on the report, but the Pennsylvania Pro-Life Federation that supports GOPe politicians says there is an investigation.

Probably like the one Obama is doing at the VA......


26 posted on 06/22/2014 6:15:32 AM PDT by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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To: V_TWIN

By appointing that crazy special prosecutor named Angela Corey to the case in the first place, pandering to the mob demanding “justice for Trayvon”.


27 posted on 06/22/2014 6:17:00 AM PDT by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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To: mazda77
If he is threatening the children who are still in the room with him?

If you are talking about Marissa Alexander, the woman convicted of firing a "warning shot", the facts of the case are:

1) She was in HIS house. She had come to collect some of her things after breaking up with him.

2) The kids she endangered were HIS kids, not hers, from a previous relationship.

3) She went down to her car in the garage, retrieved the gun, came back, and fired in his general direction.

4) She claimed he was threatening and she couldn't leave because the garage door wouldn't open, yet investigators found the garage door worked fine.


28 posted on 06/22/2014 6:17:20 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Nextrush

The usual sad blasphemies and illogical conclusions.

The problem is with you folks who want to be able to idolize somebody.

There has been a communal fall and like it or not, you’re part of that fall. And like it or not, the way out is by glorifying God again.


29 posted on 06/22/2014 6:19:52 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: DeaconRed

I’m not more inclined to support Scott because of Crist being called a name.

Resentment isn’t a good motivator to live one’s life in general, much less vote in an election.

Crist is bad and so is Scott.

I would vote for a third option in Florida like I will here in Pennsylvania after my Republican governor voted to raise gas taxes 28 cents a gallon.


30 posted on 06/22/2014 6:22:51 AM PDT by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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To: Nextrush
but does it really mean anything other than pandering to Second Amendment voters.

As a full time carrier, and 2nd Amendment voter, I enjoy being pandered to, pimped to, slathered to and catered to...what's the problem?

31 posted on 06/22/2014 6:28:35 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The glorification of God does not translate into devotion to a political party or candidate.

I am listing good policy reasons for not voting for Republicans like Corbett in PA or Scott in FL, I don’t need to call them names or call the Dems names like someone did to Crist in another post.

We are fallen people and bear responsibility for bad decisions we have made, including in my case support of a political machine (GOP-Republican) that was not being honest with the people it appeals to and still isn’t.


32 posted on 06/22/2014 6:29:41 AM PDT by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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To: Nextrush

And nobody is ASKING for devotion; however you show every sign of coming from a paradigm that one has to BE devoted.

Catty talk is cheap. There are sewers of it every day. If you can bring a better politician on the scene please do so and tout the virtues of that politician as superior to the qualities of the existing one. But until you do, heed your mother and if you can’t say anything good about someone say nothing.


33 posted on 06/22/2014 6:37:21 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Read the article, HB89 isn't about warning shows. It prevents prosecutors from going after people who pull a firearm (display it) in a self defense situation. Apparently, prior to this, just displaying a weapon to get someone to back off could have been considered aggregated assault.

My take on it, no warning shots. You are responsible for every bullet. Don't draw unless it is life or death. If it is life or death, why are you taking chances? Why aren't you ending that situation as quickly and assuredly as possible? (ie shooting to kill aka immediately incapacitate) if you are giving verbal warnings and holding off on those shots, you are doing the perp a kindness he/she probably doesn't deserve.

34 posted on 06/22/2014 6:41:15 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yes, indeed, knowing God is sovereign gets me through..........but our Patriot fathers knew when the time was right to gain back their freedom.


35 posted on 06/22/2014 6:42:14 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Guenevere

They concluded that they could successfully implement a superior self rule and then did so.

They didn’t just sit and meow at King George, feeling superior about it.


36 posted on 06/22/2014 6:45:41 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Guenevere

And in fact if it only “gets you through” — you are looking to God for too little! Because where are you getting your goals? If they are from earth, then your sights need to be raised.


37 posted on 06/22/2014 6:47:28 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Nextrush

Just read this.......and in all respect, I agree with you wholeheartedly.....

...and I’m so close to saying.....’bring on the bread and circuses’. Distract me from watching my country implode.

But we can’t give up or give in........as long as we have a heart beating for freedom, we can’t give up without a fight.

Sorry I aligned you with my cynicism......it’s a contant struggle for me.


38 posted on 06/22/2014 6:47:34 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I will reread your posts later....right now I’m going to church :)


39 posted on 06/22/2014 6:49:34 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Guenevere

When you do, remember the biblical command to pray for kings and all who are in authority.

The result might be that the person prayed for might see an improvement in the godliness of his or her exercise of authority.

Or it might be that some other person will appear on the scene that God will give the first person’s office to, and execute it in a more godly manner.

In both cases we are approaching the problem from the positive, the grace, the power side. Complaining about what isn’t there is an infinite game that is played in hell continually.


40 posted on 06/22/2014 6:53:31 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

But Biden already said two shotgun shots in the air were ok and enough to frighten off an intruder...


41 posted on 06/22/2014 6:59:14 AM PDT by jughandle
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To: Guenevere

I believe in doing what is right, but getting myself to do the right thing is a challenge.

As for politics, I participate, but I participate with open eyes and I don’t like what I see and I will act accordingly voting Third Party and write-ins if I feel that is the right thing to do.


42 posted on 06/22/2014 7:00:43 AM PDT by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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To: Nextrush

The GOP seems to be in an awkward state right now. Not quite bad enough to repudiate as a whole for something else. Not quite good enough to satisfy for the moment.

But maybe we were wrong to be satisfied with any politician ever, and God let this become obvious. We should have kept an eternal point of view in mind and always, always asked God to make better what is lacking, knowing this will never produce a utopia (this is but a temporary world) but ever desiring and striving that “Thy kingdom come.”

I am not asking to euphemize or pretend problems away. I am asking to put the problems and the prospective reactions in proper perspective. An ounce of prayer does more good than a ton of carping.

And at the top of that Constitution what does it say... We The People. That’s who has to be willing to desire the improvement to the point of putting legs to the desire.


43 posted on 06/22/2014 7:07:12 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

Virginia is very clear on this. If you brandish, you had better be able to shoot. If no immenent threat, then keep it holstered.

Unfortunately, a guy got convicted of brandishing for shifting his gun from his holster to his glove box. It’s still on appeal, but in the meantime, he’s had his CHP suspended. A bogus decision, as he never pointed it at the bus driver who complained, but still on his record.


44 posted on 06/22/2014 7:24:48 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: SoFloFreeper

Is the governor planning to pardon Marissa Alexander?

I gather the wacko prosecutor, Angela Corey, the same one that prosecuted Zimmerman, is trying to refile charges against Alexander, in that she was unsatisfied that Alexander *only* got 20 years. Corey wants her to have to serve 60 years!

Corey obviously needs to be fired. She’s nuts.


45 posted on 06/22/2014 8:06:41 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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Is the governor planning to pardon Marissa Alexander? I gather the wacko prosecutor, Angela Corey, the same one that prosecuted Zimmerman, is trying to refile charges against Alexander, in that she was unsatisfied that Alexander *only* got 20 years. Corey wants her to have to serve 60 years!

See my #28, and the link therein. The media hype is "she only fired a warning shot". The reality is her bullet narrowly missed his head, making it more likely she just missed and then claimed "I was only doing a warning shot".

46 posted on 06/22/2014 8:22:40 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: dirtboy

Due to lack of ammunition we have stopped firing warning shots. :-)


47 posted on 06/22/2014 8:43:23 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

shows for shots, aggregated for aggravated... I thought I had proof read that. No more posting from the smartphone - it “helps” too much.


48 posted on 06/22/2014 9:12:52 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: PapaBear3625

Still, the question remains, is that enough for a 20 year sentence in prison, much less the 60 years that the prosecutor now wants?

I remember reading in the specifics of the case that yes, she did seem to be carrying out an act of domestic violence with threatening. But typically that rates as a serious misdemeanor or low grade felony.


49 posted on 06/22/2014 9:32:23 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I think it sums up government nicely when government has to pass laws telling people who work for the government that a pop-tart isn’t a gun.


50 posted on 06/22/2014 9:38:31 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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