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Advocates of splitting California into six states gathering signatures
latimes.com ^ | 6/21/2014 | Harriet Ryan

Posted on 06/22/2014 6:18:16 AM PDT by rktman

Good day, future citizen of West California!

You may find yourself greeted thusly as you head into a supermarket or drugstore in Los Angeles on Saturday morning.

Advocates for Six Californias, a plan to split the Golden State into a half dozen separate states, are holding a petition drive this weekend to get their plan on the ballot in 2016.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: freedom; sixcalifornias; usurpers
My vote is for Nevada to annex all the California counties that border Nevada.
1 posted on 06/22/2014 6:18:16 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

Good idea, as long as each state’s name ends with -istan.


2 posted on 06/22/2014 6:21:23 AM PDT by Ancient Man
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To: rktman

And that would put twelve more Democrat Senators in the U.S. Senate instead of just two. Nice try, Harry.


3 posted on 06/22/2014 6:25:16 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war,and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: Ancient Man

Oq good note, those 50 something electoral votes California gets will need to be split up. Only thing that changes is 10 additional senators.


4 posted on 06/22/2014 6:25:35 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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To: rktman

waste of time —

They can’t become a state after becoming a state without first withdrawing from statehood which was decided by a civil war 150 yrs ago.

Anyway — can you imagine 12 senators from California???


5 posted on 06/22/2014 6:26:43 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: rktman

A maggot wearing a black robe sitting on a high bench will declare it unconstitutional. Make no mistake, the sniveling lawyers in power will never let this happen.


6 posted on 06/22/2014 6:33:51 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: rktman
Is THIS resurfacing? I guess it's the LAW of FR to dig up the "tired old mantras" every once in a while.

Hmmm, think of the mess we'd have putting 55 stars or so on OLD GLORY.

7 posted on 06/22/2014 6:37:44 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: DJ Taylor

Recall when Obama made his comment about having been in 57 states with one to go not, including Hawaii and Alaska, or 60 states total.

I suspected then he didn’t just “misspeak” but was actually letting his inner circle of hard core followers know there was a plan to get another 20, mostly democrat, senators.


8 posted on 06/22/2014 6:42:08 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: cloudmountain

Uh, I thought there were 57 already. :>}


9 posted on 06/22/2014 6:42:33 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: DJ Taylor
And that would put twelve more Democrat Senators in the U.S. Senate instead of just two. Nice try, Harry.

Reid is 74 years (December 2, 1939) old. Let's hope his arthritis, lumbago, Alzheimer's, fading hearing, bad hips and gastroenteritis get him OUTTA there A.S.A.P.

Sigh, he would probably be replaced by another liberal within SECONDS.

10 posted on 06/22/2014 6:43:03 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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“And that would put twelve more Democrat Senators in the U.S. Senate instead of just two. Nice try, Harry.”

BS! There are several conservative areas in California, and the citizens in those areas are tired of being second class citizens and primary tax payers for the left wing scum bags.*

Let the Liberals keep the Gay Frisco area, Sac and LA, and let the rest of us have a state we can trust.

If this is done, after a few years, many of the counties around the new conservative states would be begging to get in. Keep them out until they get rid of their local libs in government.

*PS: The owner and manager of this site, Jim Robinson lives in a very conservative area.


11 posted on 06/22/2014 7:09:29 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Herr Obozo, the Sunni WonDoer, will not divert $'s from his war on Americans to help our Veterans!)
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To: DJ Taylor

“And that would put twelve more Democrat Senators in the U.S. Senate instead of just two. Nice try, Harry.”

BS! There are several conservative areas in California, and the citizens in those areas are tired of being second class citizens and primary tax payers for the left wing scum bags.*

Let the Liberals keep the Gay Frisco area, Sac and LA, and let the rest of us have a state we can trust.

If this is done, after a few years, many of the counties around the new conservative states would be begging to get in. Keep them out until they get rid of their local libs in government.

*PS: The owner and manager of this site, Jim Robinson lives in a very conservative area.


12 posted on 06/22/2014 7:10:01 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Herr Obozo, the Sunni WonDoer, will not divert $'s from his war on Americans to help our Veterans!)
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To: Uncle Chip
750,000 people in Alaska have 2 senators while 38 million people in CA have 2 senators.

Even if they split and add the additional senators to the resulting states, Alaskans will still be better represented.

13 posted on 06/22/2014 7:29:09 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

But California has 53 members in the House slopping down free meals and Alaska only 1 — so that more than evens it out.


14 posted on 06/22/2014 7:36:32 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: rktman

15 posted on 06/22/2014 7:37:00 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: rktman
California should be just the beginning. Due to the massive population growth over the past 100 years, it's time to do some subdivision so that we don't have a congressman representing 700,000 people. That's just nuts.

Maybe we should have 100 states instead of 50.

16 posted on 06/22/2014 7:46:47 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Grampa Dave
Let the Liberals keep the Gay Frisco area, Sac and LA,...

Glad you excluded San Diego, which used to be conservative, and still is more so than the aforementioned. But it's not going to happen.

17 posted on 06/22/2014 7:47:58 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: rktman

Way to drive LibTards to the polls this Nov. Not only does this stand ZERO chance of passing and less of a chance at being approved, but also we have a Lib electorate here that is pretty complacent. They have reason to be in that the GOP has almost no power here. But we actually do have a couple swing districts that can make a difference. So what another :let’s just throw it at the wall and see if it sticks” conservative nitwit does is make SURE we drive LibTards to the polls.

Don Quixote had more sense.


18 posted on 06/22/2014 7:57:59 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: DJ Taylor

Harry? This is a CONSERVATIVE doing this.

Some need to pay more attention and dig beyond the headlines. We have enemies, and idiots, all over.


19 posted on 06/22/2014 7:58:53 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: DJ Taylor
And that would put twelve more Democrat Senators in the U.S. Senate instead of just two. Nice try, Harry.

No. There would be at least four true conservatives, probably a couple of RINOS and the rest would be from the Slave Party.

20 posted on 06/22/2014 8:08:49 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (ObamaCare IS Medicaid: They'll pull a sheet over your head and send you the bill.)
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To: rktman

“My vote is for Nevada to annex all the California counties that border Nevada. “

And why is that a good idea? Nevada is worse than California in that one city, Las Vegas controls the entire state. Most of the Nevada Reps are from Clark County plus you would get Harry Reid for one of your Senators. No thanks, if we are going to carve ourselves up, we don’t need and connection with either Nevada or Oregon. There are more Commies to the square mile in Oregon than in California. Any state that would elect a cretin like Blumenauer (the guy with the Dayglo bicycle pin on his lapel) is beyond salvation. BTW, my wife grew up in Las Vegas and refuses to go back now that her parents have passed. What she calls it cannot be written here. Like California, you should have some compassion for the people who don’t live in the major population centers. They are where the problem lies, but that’s true of every state in the Union.


21 posted on 06/22/2014 8:10:28 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: martin_fierro

Good map, thanks.


22 posted on 06/22/2014 8:14:00 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Grampa Dave

“*PS: The owner and manager of this site, Jim Robinson lives in a very conservative area.”

Jim’s in Fresno, not a “very conservative area.” Like Stockton and Sacramento, Fresno has gang problems among other issues, but I think you can get a CCW permit there. Our last Commie Lt. Governor, Cruz Bustamante came from Fresno. He headed up the Aztlan Group at Fresno State as I recall.
Maybe Jim can enlighten us all.


23 posted on 06/22/2014 8:16:24 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: rktman

They can’t support one State Government ,then they’ll have six too waste even more money .


24 posted on 06/22/2014 8:22:37 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: vette6387

Sadly, you are correct. The sin city does indeed screw the rest of the state. But isn’t that what typically is the case across the country? Urban centers with high population density end up having the final say on what’s “best” for all the fly-over rubes?


25 posted on 06/22/2014 8:30:45 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: DJ Taylor
If they split it into 6, that would make 2 or 3 of the states Red or slightly Red. The huge liberal areas of LA and the Bay Area would have most of the population, and each would be part of one state. It would increase the number of Democrats in the Senate, but not as much as you might think. Northern California above SF and the Central Valley are very conservative. Inland empire, San Diego and Orange County are moderate, with conservative congressional districts (Duncan Hunter, for example) and a few liberal ones.

I do think the state needs to be split up, but we should probably fix what Obama has broken first, if we can, then, when it is safe to take a chance on having new Democrat Senators, think about such an idea. If there is a wave that results in 56 or 58 Republican Senators in the next couple cycles, it might be possible to do it and still retain a majority. Breaking up California's power would be good for the country long term.

26 posted on 06/22/2014 9:00:14 AM PDT by Defiant (Obama is not the anti-Christ. He is Satan's John the Baptist, preparing the way.)
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To: rktman

Ten more liberal senators.


27 posted on 06/22/2014 9:06:39 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Ben Ficklin

Senators were intended to represent state interests. The House of Representatives represent the people of a state. We need to repeal the 14th amendment as a major step the reign in the federal government.


28 posted on 06/22/2014 9:29:36 AM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Nuc 1.1
A member of the US House represents members of his district, not the state, but the senators do represent the entire state.

You position on the 14th indicates that your interests lay with "the way things ought to be", whereas it is better to concentrate on the way things actually are.

Based on the way things are, the two biggest problems with congress are gerrymandered house districts and a committee system in both the House and Senate that has evolved into a system of gatekeepers that is used to raise money, especially if it is an appropriations committee, in which case the top gatekeepers are called "Congressional Cardinals".

29 posted on 06/22/2014 11:01:22 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: rktman

I wish Texas would do this. I think we would get at least six more conservative senators.

The northeast states with two senators is the primary source of our anti conservative oligarchy.


30 posted on 06/22/2014 11:35:03 AM PDT by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent / Cruz 2016)
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To: lonestar67

You NAILED it!


31 posted on 06/22/2014 11:41:55 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: SamAdams76
Maybe we should have 100 states instead of 50.

East and West Tennessee? I like it. (Of course; East Tennessee would have to be renamed State of Franklin at some point.)

32 posted on 06/22/2014 11:50:00 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Ben Ficklin

Based upon the way things are, gerrymandering and congressional committees are not going away. You would have more success repealing the 14th.


33 posted on 06/22/2014 5:36:40 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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