Skip to comments.One-on-one with Rick Perry (part two)
Posted on 06/22/2014 6:33:27 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat
Texas Gov. Rick Perry is taking seriously his preparation for a possible presidential run, meeting with domestic and foreign policy experts. He is also campaigning for governors. In Iowa, for example, he said, Im not worried about [GOP Gov.] Terry Branstad. But we have an important Senate race there. Branstad, whos at the top of the ticket, will raise the tide for everyone.
Perry is more at ease, less forced in conversation than he was four years ago. He even looks and sounds different. Gone is the Texas swagger (and much of the twang). In his distinctive black eyeglasses, he looks more like a middle-aged businessman than a Texas pol. But that doesnt mean he is without controversy. He got himself in hot water last week by comparing homosexuality to alcoholism. But unlike in 2012, he quickly corrected course at a GOP gathering in D.C.:
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
Ping. Best read while listening to mariachi.
Republicans do not want to take the WH. Why? I have no idea but giving us retreads is not gonna do it.
I have yet to see one Republican that hasn’t been dissed by conservatives/other Repubs, even here on FR.
I don’t think the gop faction of the uniparty much cares. So long as their good friends in the ‘rat faction of the uniparty stay in power, it’s all good from their perspective.
This article looks like a trial balloon to me. I guess uniparty management has decided that Jabba the Christie isn’t going to be the nominee, so back to Willard Romney, Jeb, and Gov. Perry.
“I have yet to see one Republican that hasnt been dissed by conservatives/other Repubs, even here on FR.”
Given that most candidates representing the gop wing of the uniparty are not significantly different from their good friends in the ‘rat faction of the uniparty, I don’t see a problem with that time honored FR tradition.
Its outrageous and apparently most Texans don't even care.
Perry wants to make the next Presidential election about American jobs and the economy. That sounds like a conversation we ought to be having.
I wouldn’t t say that most Texans don’t care. The media decides what it’s going to report. And an invasion of illegal aliens and ms 13 members isn’t on their list of approved stories.
Texans are nice folks and generally conservative. I don’t think they walk the talk enough, but to say they don’t care I don’t think is a fair characterization.
We need to vet them here on FR because we know for sure the "news" media want to force a weak, easily beatable candidate. And it's a double-shot for them if they can push a candidate true conservatives will stay home rather than vote for.
Still, what I've seen here and other places by too many people is an unwillingness to bend a little; no one is perfect, no one is going to be exactly like me. There is more than one way to skin a cat and politicians have to say some things to get elected that they never mean to carry out (see obammy's campaigns).
Yes, we should talk about American jobs. Especially those folks that are seeing their pay reduced or jobs eliminated as a result of an influx of unskilled labor from other countries.
I welcome that conversation. Unfortunately I don’t think that Gov. Perry wants to have THAT conversation about jobs.
There’s a difference between being flexible and bending over forwards.
I did notice that as soon as he was out of the race, he dropped that twang. What was that about?!
No, the conversation Perry wants to have is about creating good paying skilled jobs and having that become the engine for wider economic growth.
“Texas Gov. Rick Perry is taking seriously his preparation for a possible presidential run”...
Sure wish he’d wake up to reality; I hate to see him throw his money away.
We disagree. Lowskilled labor still makes up a part of our population, and other than putting those people on welfare, I see no so called political leader seriously addressing their concerns. Sure. Talk about high skilled jobs. But don’t ignore a growing underclass that would be better put to productive use.
“Sure wish hed wake up to reality; I hate to see him throw his money away.”
It’s obvious that he views his destiny as not being in Texas, but on the Kobe beef and lobster circuit in DC.
What is an RKBA democrat and where do you live?
LoL! My first reaction is to note that an RKBA Democrat is a prickly and difficult to eradicate form of FReeper.
The name comes from the Right to Keep and Bear Arms and democrat comes the fact that I was a democrat in bad standing when I joined FR. I figured I would get zotted if I didn’t reveal that and had no desire to lie about it in any case. I left the rat party some time later. I keep the name out of nostalgia.
I’m in VA. Although longer term I expect to move to NH as part of the Free State Project.
You are right. Every candidate except Ted Cruz has been demonized. What are freepers going to do if Ted comes out and says we will have to let some of the illegals stay? Then who will we run for President?
Frankly I am shocked Perry did not get applause from all the anti gay freepers here for his comment about being gay is like being an alchoholic. I don’t know why he backed up on that comment. It should get him the conservative base back.
My brother in law is like 20th generation Mexican American from El Paso TX and his cousin told him yesterday that there are floods of militia coming in from several states and Perry is swearing them all into the TX guard. They are going to seal up that Texas border. So good for Rick Perry and Greg Abbott.
I happen to like Rick Perry. He’s a mature adult, a states righter and I know he hates the EPA so I’m for Rick Perry or Ted Cruz in 2016. There is nobody else on the radar right now.
'It's outrageous, and most Texans don't seem to care'.
Well this Texan (fourth generation) cares!!
I love Texas with all my heart, and it breaks my heart to see Texas being overrun with thousands upon thousands of aliens bringing in disease, criminals, drugs, most probably Muslim radicals who seek to destroy us, and lowlife 'gimmethats' who will surely bankrupt and destroy Texas if not stopped.
And frankly, I'm astonished that more Texans have not poured out their outrage about Obama opening the flood gates and letting in thousands of illegal aliens! Travis and Sam Houston would be ashamed of us.
My pleadings for fellow Texans to warn the governor, and our representatives that we would not stand for this atrocity (complete with email, fax and phone numbers) have largely been ignored- and even have been made fun of.
Some of my posts have even mysteriously disappeared.
I am extremely disappointed in my fellow Texans.
I have been a supporter of Rick Perry, BUT UNTIL HE PUTS A STOP TO THE ILLEGAL ALIENS FROM GETTINGG ACROSS THE BORDER IN THE FIRST PLACE, he is persona non grata to me. When he just hands them over ICE who lets them go free, he is indeed assisting the invasion.
Yup. As I mentioned in a previous post, no one is going to be absolutely perfect in every way, but too many people are too rigid in their ideology and the Dems know this and target it - it is our weakness, not our strength, but some consider it as bending over.
Well if it comes down to between Mitt and Rick or Jeb and Rick freepers will be peeing all over themselves to pull the lever for Rick.
I am very concerned that Ann Romney is not going to be able to stop Mitt from jumping in the 2016 race. If he does the GOP elite will embrace him like a long lost son. The money will roll in and he will be jammed down our throats. I think that Mitt knows he really did win the 2012 election but the election fraud in Ohio and Fla cost him the Whitehouse. All the polls the day before the election showed him surging. Bill Clinton came out and said he was sure Mitt was going to win. It must eat at Mitt night and day.
Its important that we have as many conservatives as possible lining up for the 2016 campaign to try to keep Mitt and Jeb out of it.
Perry is swearing them all into the TX guard.
That maybe happening but I don’t believe it until I hear/see it from
the Executive officers of the State.
Buckeye are you hearing any such thing in your circles?
Yeah, Mitt had his chance and probably actually won the election, but the Dems have vote fraud down to a science now and the only way to beat them is to win overwhelmingly and then ruthlessly clean house when we get in office.
My brother in law’s cousin says you can’t hardly get in a restaurant for all the militia around his area. He says they are swarming there.
They maybe there but I was questioning being sworn into the Texas State Guard.
“the only way to beat them is to win overwhelmingly and then ruthlessly clean house when we get in office.”
The way to win the Whitehouse in 2016 is to nominate a candidate who will electrify the republican base and get those 6 million who stayed home last time to the polls. That’s how we win not trying to get blacks and Hispanics to vote for republicans. Not gonna happen.
Don’t you have to be sworn in the state guard to be allowed to patrol?
I don’t know the rules but I seriously doubt the Texas State Guard is expanding it’s roles with out of state units.
There are several differning groups and the names get confused at times.
Texas Military forces
.. Texas State Guard
.. Texas Army National Guard
.. Texas Air National Guard
In addition there are others such as:
.. Texas State Militia .. http://www.texasstatemilitia.com/about-us.html
But as far as I know they haven’t been mobilized as of yet. That’s why I pinged
BuckeyeTexas as she has info.
I read an article I think yesterday where Texas officials said the militia were welcome but they needed to sign up with the guard.
Oh, the libs have done plenty and said plenty to demonize Ted Cruz. They also would love nothing better than to have Perry in the race to split it so Cruz couldn’t receive the GOP nomination for President.
I like Perry too, but not as President.
He will not win.
Agreed. Wake up, Repubs.
Perry puff piece part 2
I see it, you see it...
The MSM is going to promote RINO’s that are designated losers like the last few have been.
No. Gov. Perry isn’t swearing out-of-state militiamen into the Texas State Guard. First, one has to be a resident of Texas to be in the Guard. Second, there are several prerequisites such as criminal background checks, training, etc.
I can’t speak to whether or not any militia are arriving from out of state. I have not heard of any.
It’s likely that the rumor about being sworn into the Guard evolved from the following:
State Rep Steve Toth (R-The Woodlands) spoke to Texas Department of Public Safety Director, Colonel Steve McCraw about the militia groups coming to Texas. On a Facebook chat thread this morning Toth said, Steve McCraw is not looking for anyone to show up on the border to help DPS or the Guard. If you would like to join the Guard we would love to have you but dont show up on the border to help it will only cause confusion and lead to someone getting hurt. - See more at: http://www.teaparty.org/texas-militia-groups-call-members-to-border-45017/#sthash.dbwudsqW.dpuf
Here’s the problem. One faction of FR refuses to accept the 80% traditional standard and reviles people calling for adherents ‘purists’ blames them to this day for Obama, and keeps helping the right wing as a whole move left.
80% means one in 5 votes is a liberal vote. And yet, we ‘purists’ have bent a full 20%.
Now I defy a single person screaming ‘Purist” (not you) to show the class where Mitt or most of the usual suspects like Perry hit that 80% marks.
But it is not just sheer votes. Mitch and the like regularly spend months pushing hard for liberal policies and fighting the Ted Cruz types. Then, when the vote is solidly locked in for the lib win, they come out and vote against it and their record ‘proves’ their conservative creds.
There are core issues. There is an official platform. If people ignore those issues and that platform, they and their supporters are in fact liberal democrats. Because thats what siding with liberal democrats against the cor issues and party platform shows they are.
The 80% crowd refuses to support a 90-100% conservative
more than one
The ANTI 80% crowd you meant right? Perhaps I jumbled my post. What I was getting at is that we who are called purists are fine with the 80% that has traditionally guided the right. Show me someone that hits 80% and follows the platform and I vote for them.
But the RandPaul/Perry/Mitt types refuse to go by that. They are good with far less than 50% and to hell with the platform or even 10% as with Romney and in turn scream at us while taking the GOP further left every election.
We're talking about a primary. There is no reason to make concessions when in the primaries. Perry is far from being conservative and his horrendous record should be up for debate. For instance...
Perry is just fine with giving financial aid and in state tuition too ILLEGAL aliens
He made clear he believes conservatives have no heart because they did not share his pro-ILLEGAL alien position
He wanted a Superhighway through Texas but opposed a fence on the border
He imposed a nanny-state executive order that would have forced Texas females as young as 11 to get injections of an unwanted, unneeded, and unproven vaccine. The entire Texas state legislature opposed him on this.
He endorsed RINO extraordinaire Mitch McConnell for reelection
He endorsed RINO David Dewhurst for senate over TEA Party favorite, Ted Cruz
He refused to endorse the best conservative in the senate, Ted Cruz. In fact , if Perry had his way Cruz would never have made it to Washington
Just last week Perry praised Hillary on the number one issue that Republicans need to attack her, her horrendous performance as Secretary of State. Perry said Hillary was a "great secretary of state".
Perrys failures are abundant and his record aberrant. Together, they disqualify him from any serious consideration.
I can find no reports of militia in El Paso. There is nothing on Twitter, Facebook, or Tumblr. I’d wager that someone would be posting pictures on Instagram or Twitter if El Paso restaurants were flooded with militia.
All of the current reports about militia on the border are associated with the FB post that was posted here and reported by Breitbart. As a result of that post, my local militia leaders have made a point to speak out about how the Texas State Militia can be called into action. We have not been called.
I did see one tweet from an out-of-state commander indicating that he was ordering a stand down because Perry said the militia were not needed at this time. I can’t confirm the reliability of said tweet.
The biggest reason that we keep playing Groundhog Day is that no one is ever held to account. No one is ever forced to think about anything they do. They merely ‘feel’ like Democrats.
The excuse repeated often that ‘the dem is worse’ was repeated often. Yet lesser evils stood silently for 6 months and said nothing to their voters about the invasion Barry ADVERTIZED FOR in January.
The dem is not worse. The Dem is a mirror image. We see the proof of it when GOP attack conservatives harder than Dems. We see the proof in this mess. We see it in GOP investigations that act as diversions, stalls and pressure relief, but never end with arrest.
We cannot set people just spout BS anymore or we are rehashing 2012. And if thats the case, if no one should be held to their words, lets just call ourselves what we are. The problem. And lets all just go home mow. Because in such a case, what is the point of fighting a ‘war’ we do not believe in in the first place.