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Paul Blames Iraq Crisis on Bush Administration
The Hill ^ | Sunday, June 22, 2014 | Rebecca Shabad

Posted on 06/22/2014 9:05:48 AM PDT by kristinn

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) on Sunday said he blames the current crisis in Iraq on those who backed the 2003 U.S. invasion, not President Obama.

Paul was asked on NBC’s “Meet the Press” whether former Vice President Dick Cheney is a “credible critic” after he blasted Obama for his strategy for Iraq in an op-ed last week.

“I think the same questions could be asked of the same people who supported the Iraq war,” Paul said. “What’s going on now..I don’t blame President Obama. I blame the Iraq war and I blame the people who supported the Iraq war for emboldening Iran.”

The Bush administration didn’t understand and foresee that a civil war would break out, Paul said.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky; US: Texas; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: dickcheney; gwbush; iraq; isis; kentucky; obama; randpaul; randpaultruthfile; randsconcerntrolls; ronpaultruthfile; tedcruz; texas; thekycandidate; waronterror
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1 posted on 06/22/2014 9:05:48 AM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn

Well, he’s a Liberal Democrat. Of course he’d say that.


2 posted on 06/22/2014 9:06:29 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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To: kristinn

He’s as Goofy as his father


3 posted on 06/22/2014 9:07:32 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: kristinn

He is toast.
Everything he has been doing and saying supports the liberal agenda.
Go away.


4 posted on 06/22/2014 9:08:33 AM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: kristinn
Paul Blames Iraq Crisis on Bush Administration

Looks like if you scratch just below the surface, junior is just as big a Kook as his old man. Sad. Definately Not Potus material.

5 posted on 06/22/2014 9:08:59 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: kristinn

Screw him! Bush ABSOLUTELY understood Civil War would break out. That’s why he GAVE NO TIMELINE on withdrawal and had weekly calls with Malaki to help him govern.


6 posted on 06/22/2014 9:09:12 AM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: kristinn

Let’s be brutally honest here. The dirty little secret that nobody wants to talk about is that Saddam Hussein was far more effective at dealing with radical Muslims in Iraq than were the @ssholes in the U.S. government who invaded Iraq and toppled his government in 2003.


7 posted on 06/22/2014 9:10:41 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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To: kristinn

Of course he does. He wouldn’t want to say anything “rasis” about his little buddy, Barry Soetoro.


8 posted on 06/22/2014 9:10:43 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Feed the wacko enrviromentalists to the starving polar bears.)
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To: kristinn

The new Godwin’s law is that if you mention George W. Bush, you have lost the argument.

Liberals can’t begin to discuss anything without mentioning George W. Bush.

Rand Paul is officially a liberal.


9 posted on 06/22/2014 9:10:50 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: kristinn
Rand Paul is a pagan
and as such does not understand
biblical geopolitics.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

10 posted on 06/22/2014 9:12:12 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: kristinn

Then blame a strong majority in Congress, the Arab Leagus, and the United Nations.


11 posted on 06/22/2014 9:12:57 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: kristinn

He has totally kissed off any chance of the Presidency


12 posted on 06/22/2014 9:13:03 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: Solson
Baloney. The Bush administration revealed its rank incompetence when it allowed the new Iraqi government to adopt a constitution in 2005 in which Islam was established as the official state religion.

Someone would have to be retarded to expect a country to survive under those governing conditions with all the religious/ethnic divisions among Sunni, Shi'ite and Kurdish groups.

13 posted on 06/22/2014 9:13:59 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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To: kristinn
How can Rand blame Bush and Cheney, et al for what is happening in Iraq and then go on a Sunday show and make this statement.

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said Sunday that the Sunni militants taking over Iraq have quickly gained power because the United States has armed their group in Syria. “I think we have to understand first how we got here,” he said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

Is he saying that Bush and Cheney planned this over six years ago and somehow managed to enact their plan after leaving office? Just how many drugs has Rand been sharing with his old pappy, or is this a clear sign that dementia is a genetic strong suit among the Paul's?

14 posted on 06/22/2014 9:14:41 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: kristinn

Good grief.


15 posted on 06/22/2014 9:16:36 AM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11))
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To: kristinn

The GWB Admin was wrong to invade Iraq which was a natural, effective foe against Iran. With that said to leave the followup in the hands of the tasbard Kenyan along with all his other foreign and domestic policies is a far greater epic disaster. Bammy had his shot to be a better Pres than W but he’s proven unworthy to even lick the Crawford, Tx. mud off the boots of Jr. George.
As for Rand Paul he’s all over the map an totally unreliable as a conservative. Next....


16 posted on 06/22/2014 9:17:10 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: Mastador1

Rand Paul and his idiot dad have no clue. Both of them should do some reading.

William
William J. Clinton
Statement on Signing the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998
October 31, 1998

Today I am signing into law H.R. 4655, the “Iraq Liberation Act of 1998.” This Act makes clear that it is the sense of the Congress that the United States should support those elements of the Iraqi opposition that advocate a very different future for Iraq than the bitter reality of internal repression and external aggression that the current regime in Baghdad now offers.

Let me be clear on what the U.S. objectives are:

The United States wants Iraq to rejoin the family of nations as a freedom-loving and lawabiding member. This is in our interest and that of our allies within the region.

The United States favors an Iraq that offers its people freedom at home. I categorically reject arguments that this is unattainable due to Iraq’s history or its ethnic or sectarian makeup. Iraqis deserve and desire freedom like everyone else.

The United States looks forward to a democratically supported regime that would permit us to enter into a dialogue leading to the reintegration of Iraq into normal international life.

My Administration has pursued, and will continue to pursue, these objectives through active application of all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions. The evidence is overwhelming that such changes will not happen under the current Iraq leadership.

In the meantime, while the United States continues to look to the Security Council’s efforts to keep the current regime’s behavior in check, we look forward to new leadership in Iraq that has the support of the Iraqi people. The United States is providing support to opposition groups from all sectors of the Iraqi community that could lead to a popularly supported government.


17 posted on 06/22/2014 9:19:15 AM PDT by shelterguy
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To: Alberta's Child

How would he have fared against the Arab Spring, even if all had remained locked in place from 10 + years ago? His army, already decrepit from sanctions 10 years ago, would have withstood ISIS or a push from Iran during the past ten years better than the current U.S. reinforced version? It was over and done with by ‘08, all Obama had to do was hold on to the gains.


18 posted on 06/22/2014 9:19:28 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Alberta's Child
Saddam was a radical Muslim himself. He helped far more terrorists than hurt.

Palestinians Get Saddam Charity Checks: CBS News 2003
Saddam Hussein has distributed $260,000 to 26 families of Palestinians killed in 29 months of fighting with Israel, including a $10,000 check to the family of a Hamas suicide bomber. …
The Muslim Brotherhood in Jordan: WSJ 2011
With Islamists thus amply represented in parliament, domestic considerations hampered the king’s (Hussein of Jordan) foreign-policy decision making. During the 1991 Gulf War, the king declared neutrality, while the Brotherhood backed Saddam Hussein.

19 posted on 06/22/2014 9:20:29 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Alberta's Child
The dirty little secret that nobody wants to talk about is that Saddam Hussein was far more effective at dealing with radical Muslims in Iraq than were the @ssholes in the U.S. government who invaded Iraq and toppled his government in 2003.

I agree. The invasion of Iraq was a mistake, I believe. Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11. Rumsfeld's disbanding of the Iraqi military as part of his 'de-Bathification" program was a further disaster.

I have no problem blaming Obama for his many failures but I can't in good conscience blame him for the mess that became of Iraq. Bush owns this one.

All this being said, Saddam's days were numbered regardless of what we did. When practically every family in Iraq knows someone who "disappeared" under Saddam's regime, change would be coming.

20 posted on 06/22/2014 9:20:49 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: gusopol3
His army was only "decrepit from sanctions" because the U.S. made it that way.

When (actually, IF) anyone write an honest, objective history book about the U.S. involvement in the Middle East over the last 25 years, they're probably going to acknowledge that the U.S. was on the wrong side in the original Gulf War in 1990.

21 posted on 06/22/2014 9:21:57 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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To: kristinn

What evidence is there that Obama really objects to what is going on? There is the distinct possibility that he favors the caliphate what with that ring he wears, returning terrorists to the wild, etc. and the possibility that Benghazi was running arms to the rebels.

We’ve taken out Saddam and his replacement is under attack, Quadiffi, and now they’re after Assad....from what I an tell all three were impediments to the caliphate. Seems to me it’s Egypt, who claims Obama is in cahoots with Muslim Brotherhood, is the one pointing out the inconvenient truth.

I trust freepers will let me know where I’m wrong on this - what goes on over there is hard to keep up with.


22 posted on 06/22/2014 9:22:39 AM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: gusopol3
His army, already decrepit from sanctions 10 years ago, would have withstood ISIS

His army became ISIS.

23 posted on 06/22/2014 9:23:46 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: kristinn
Oh thats useful nowl, Paul.

The old crank is proud of his popularity on college campuses, apparently.

24 posted on 06/22/2014 9:23:49 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Olog-hai
Saddam was a radical Muslim himself.

LMAO. Iraq under its ruling Ba'athist government was one of the few places in the Middle East where Christians weren't regularly persecuted.

Heck -- Saddam Hussein even had non-Muslims in the highest reaches of his government. I believe the former Iraqi foreign minister Tariq Aziz was a Maronite or Chaldean Christian.

25 posted on 06/22/2014 9:25:09 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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To: ClearCase_guy

No, he’s not a lib; look at his domestic ideas. He and his dad are just isolationists. That policy has not worked since 1811.

Bush had the war won. Lybia was peaceful, Iraq and Afganistan were pretty much done deals; just had to maintain. Iran was ready for revolt, we just had to give moral support.

Obama threw it all away. Now we will have to start all over again because the threat is not only back but greater than ever.


26 posted on 06/22/2014 9:25:26 AM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun free zones?)
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To: kristinn

Rand, like his father Ron, have an isolationist bend, and anything we do outside the country, should not have been done.


27 posted on 06/22/2014 9:26:36 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Alberta's Child

It allowed? The Bush administration didn’t have a final say and could not command they take a different approach. Sure, they could and DID attempt to influence them away from that stance but they couldn’t force it.


28 posted on 06/22/2014 9:26:44 AM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: Drew68
All this being said, Saddam's days were numbered regardless of what we did. When practically every family in Iraq knows someone who "disappeared" under Saddam's regime, change would be coming.

I'll bet there isn't a single Islamic country where this hasn't been the norm for at least a thousand years ... and will still be the norm a thousand years from now.

29 posted on 06/22/2014 9:26:50 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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To: shelterguy

Great post and facts from the past only apply to lieberals when and if it meets their agenda in their current assesments. That’s why they hate absolute truth’s and go with moral relativism because they change the rules and move the goalposts as they see fit and justify doing it with deceptions and obfuscations.
Such a lovely bunch of liars and unaccountable deceivers.


31 posted on 06/22/2014 9:29:32 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: kristinn

Paul lives in another world. Someday maybe he will grow up and smell the roses.


32 posted on 06/22/2014 9:30:00 AM PDT by mulligan (I)
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To: svcw

I’m over him.

(We’ve only had an idiot Muslim in the White house for 5.5 years, that’s been funding terrorists.)


33 posted on 06/22/2014 9:30:49 AM PDT by CommieCutter ("For an idea to be too simplistic, it must first be proven wrong" --Thomas Sowell)
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To: Alberta's Child
Let's be brutally honest. Saddam Hussein harbored, trained and funded radical Muslim terrorists.

Saddam waged war on Iran, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Israel and the United States.

Saddam waged genocidal wars on the Kurds and Marsh Arabs.

Saddam tried to assassinate a U.S. president.

I could go on but what's the point. Talking to a Saddam supporter is like talking to an Obama supporter.

34 posted on 06/22/2014 9:30:57 AM PDT by kristinn (Welcome to the Soviet States of Obama)
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To: Solson
That is absolute nonsense.

If the U.S. didn't have a "final say" in the adoption of the Iraqi constitution in 2005, then it had no business invading the country in the first place and every senior member of the Bush administration should be charged with war crimes. What kind of lunacy is that?

After World War II, the Japanese didn't even draft their new constitution. It was done in 1946-47 by U.S. military officials with backgrounds in law. That's how you pacify a country and keep a bunch of mutants from staging a military uprising less than a decade later.

35 posted on 06/22/2014 9:31:08 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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To: Alberta's Child

The Kurds alone disprove your point of view


36 posted on 06/22/2014 9:31:46 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: kristinn

I’m trying to come up with a list of Islamic governments in the Middle East that your statements would NOT apply to, and all I’ve got here is a blank sheet of paper.


37 posted on 06/22/2014 9:32:48 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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To: Aria
Shiites, Kurds, Sunni, Muslim Brotherhood, Iran, Egypt, Taliban, Pakistan, Syrian Arameans,Saudis, Isis, Al Queda, Shia, Maronites, Druze, Shabak, Hijab, Palestinians, Hezbollah, etc etc. If we think any of these guys will be lasting partners of the United States that we should arm them, support them, send our young men and women there to die for them..... we're crazy if we believe that.

I don't care if its Rand Paul, Obammy, Sarah Palin, or Diane Fienstein saying we should stay out of this. I agree with them. The only activity we should have over there is killing people we think are about to try and kill our citizens. That's it. And we can do that from a long ways away.

38 posted on 06/22/2014 9:33:53 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: faithhopecharity

He has totally kissed off any chance of the Presidency

You are probably correct but I think he’ll run in order to try to take out Cruz. The B@sterd GOPe will try their damnest to take out Cruz.


39 posted on 06/22/2014 9:33:57 AM PDT by Undecided 2012
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To: shelterguy

Exactly. I’ve had this ready to post myself. Thanks for posting it.

The Dems would have supported this exact war, with the exact series of events and blips, had Clinton for Obama conducted it. This is why Paul needs to shut up. He is only helping these flip floppers.


40 posted on 06/22/2014 9:34:17 AM PDT by CommieCutter ("For an idea to be too simplistic, it must first be proven wrong" --Thomas Sowell)
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To: Drew68

I didn’t know that; granting you point, they should be easy to pound into the sand then, because they didn’t show much then. I do remember the Anbar awakening, though, so I doubt you’re right.


41 posted on 06/22/2014 9:34:41 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Alberta's Child

Yep....


42 posted on 06/22/2014 9:34:45 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: Alberta's Child

You’re full of shit.


43 posted on 06/22/2014 9:35:00 AM PDT by ReaganÜberAlles (Remember, you can't spell "progressive" without "SS".)
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To: MRourke85

I’ve always thought he and his father were kind of flakey. I agree that we shouldn’t have went into Iraq in the first place, but Obama is the one who let the situation degrade into chaos. He intentionally scuttled Iraq.


44 posted on 06/22/2014 9:35:10 AM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: Alberta's Child

And if the Feds had replaced Saddam with a pro-US, Muzzie tyrant who would have been just as brutal this wouldn’t be happening.


45 posted on 06/22/2014 9:35:50 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Drew68

You’re full of shit.


46 posted on 06/22/2014 9:36:03 AM PDT by ReaganÜberAlles (Remember, you can't spell "progressive" without "SS".)
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To: kristinn

Buh Bye Rand, you barmy goofball.
This nut did not fall far from the tree.


47 posted on 06/22/2014 9:37:28 AM PDT by mylife
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To: logic101.net

Not to mention Eqypt had been stable for thirty years as well.


48 posted on 06/22/2014 9:37:48 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: kristinn
Rand Paul is clearly going to take over John McCain's position in the country.

What an asshole.

49 posted on 06/22/2014 9:38:10 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles
You’re full of shit.

Actually, the bad news is that I'm right.

If foreign affairs was a competitive sport, then George W. Bush would have won a gold medal.

In the Special Olympics.

50 posted on 06/22/2014 9:39:53 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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