Skip to comments.RAND PAUL CALLS FOR AN 'EXPANDED WORK VISA PROGRAM'
Posted on 06/22/2014 11:21:18 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
Sunday on NBCs Meet the Press," Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) warned conservatives when it comes to immigration reform the party needs to get beyond the term amnesty and move the focus to border security and work visas. The Kentucky Republican said, "I don't think any immigration reform will get out of Washington. I do think there is a path to a secure border and an expanded work visa program."
I think that everyone needs to be for some form of immigration reform because the status quo is untenable," he continued. "So I consider myself a bridge to conservative community because Im about as conservative as they come, a little libertarian too ... If we do nothing, 11 million more people will come illegally, so we have to do something.
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Geez, this guy is crapping all over himself lately.
Rand is working for the democrats.
Randy can KMA. How ‘bout some work jobs for Americans first! We’ll hand out the VISA cards to the Guatemalans, Hondurans and El Salvadorans in their welcome baskets.
So he’s joined Team McConnell/Boehner has he? I’ll bet McCain no longer calls him a wackobird.
Hey Rand, BLEEP YOU.
If the border is not controlled all else is just hot wind.
I’m sick and tired of walking through the door of the company I work for into a sea of H1B visas: Indians, Chinese, Russians, and Poles.
How about terminating the H1B program altogether and giving jobs to Americans?
The ironic part is that Rand was running stronger before he started talking like this.
Marco Rubio will co-sponsor, right?
Hmmmm....sounds like Randie got the exact, same *Amnesty* memo that Brit Hume got...on the night of the (epic/glorious) Cantor upset.
His ego is so big he might run as an independent if he loses the republican nomination. He might pull more votes from the democrat candidate then the republican. He’s out there.
My head is gonna explode.
Eleven million people are coming because the government refuses to enforce current immigration laws. So what do you propose? More laws the government will refuse to enforce.
No vote for you, Rand. You've jumped the tiburon.
Well somebody needs to tell Rand Paul that first about 70% of the people who pick our crops are US citizens. Second we already have about 40 guest worker programs already in place which I feel sure can accommodate the other 30% of the foreign (Mexican) farmworkers we need.
11 million illegals who are here already don’t need a visa has they could probably have signed up for one of the existing guest worker programs. Most of these illegals are not looking for farmwork. They are looking for construction work or plantwork. These are jobs Americans could and should be doing.
Every time some plant gets raided and they haul off a 100 illegals thousands of Americans line up the next day for the jobs.
How about this idea: Send them to Hawaii and Illinois, Obama's home state and adopted state. I'm sure the good people of those states in Hawaii and Illinois would be most happy to greet as many of the illegal immigrant children as Obama can send them.
But I forgot this: I think Hawaii, with its large Asian population, only accepts illegal immigrants who sneak into Hawaii from Asia.
To control our southern borders and stop the thousands of children from Latin America from sneaking into the United States, we need at least two new amendments to the Constitution, something like this:
1. "School attendance: Only citizens, legal residents, those with special student visas can attend elementary, high school, and colleges in the United States."
2. "One parent must be a citizen before a newborn child is given automatic citizenship."
3. Felony: We must finally declare that crossing the border illegally is a felony.
Illegal parents come to the United States for the wonderful benefits that their children can receive, like a quality education and great health care. Can you blame them for making the dangerous, long trip with their young children, or sending their children by themselves with the hope that the United States will automatically let them stay?
I don't understand how a child can illegally cross the southern border one day and automatically be eligible to enroll in public school the next day. That is wrong.
I'm in farm country in NC, and there are entire communities that are hispanic, and the other communities are dominated by hispanic YOUTH. American youth are not staying to farm .
As for law enforcement, my county makes $1,500 per DWI in fines off of each migrant (legal or illegal). 20 drunks are hauled in per week. That is in excess of 80K a month of extra income for pension funds for county employees.
That is why no one wants to deport.
Work visa, maybe, AFTER the border has been verifiably secured. And never - NEVER - for anyone who has already crossed the border illegally.
B/S! Enforce the law! Secure the borders!!
Yeah, I know. we’re really hurting for workers. /s
"Most" as in 97% - only 3% are involved in agriculture.
Its easy to spot a liar in this debate - he's the one talking about how badly we need illegals to pick our crops.
WHY can’t any of these guys just come out and say “ENFORCE THE DAMNED LAW?”
Good grief, what a total mush Rand Paul is proving to be. On just about every issue. The statements that spring forth from him, the contexts he uses, all the things that seem reflective of where his worldview lies... This is NOT the kind of person I look to as a leader. Much less someone I’m willing to even marginally trust.
I don’t see anywhere in the article where he’s advocating not enforcing the law. But he’s correct that the other two issues have to be worked on.
Border security and the rule of law is first.
The answer is a total pause, a total ending of all immigration until the system is enforced or rebuilt.
Just enforce the fricken law already!! All else is bullshit!!
He is working hard to REPLACE AMERICANS.
I need to get to work on a Rand Paul circus graphic, just like the one I did for his daddy.
Just follow what is on the books. Nothing else is needed. Just follow the law.
Paul has disqualified himself from any consideration for the Presidency.
An expanded work permit program for foreigners... could make some sense if we had a decent economy with jobs.
Right now in the fifth or sixth year of the Great Obama Depression, there are no jobs for American citizens who want to work (outside of a few specialized areas).
If we were to let more foreign nationals in to work here, NOW IS EXACTLY THE WRONG TIME for this sort of policy.
We need to restore, rebuild the American economy first (which means we have to wait until at least 2017 and then see what we can do to get trust and investment and JOBS going again....)
Because that’s what we need right now! The stupidest among us are our masters.
25% of our work-force unemployed, and this is what Paul comes up with?
What would he offer up if 50% were out of work, citizenship for every human and no future border checks?
I already added Rand to the list months ago....
Paul is just another damned-fool traitor who’s willing to destroy the country if it means he can get himself some power. He won’t be getting it with my help.
Glad you outlined that. Drives me crazy. This country is crawling with illegals that only pick government paychecks.
Just replace the face.
or any RINO one
But there are so many cool new characters to add now.
What Rand and others should start focusing on if they want to help AMERICAN citizens is to encourage businesses to embrace apprenticeship programs and also grant regulatory advantages to businesses who hire and develop AMERICAN citizens as a part of their workforce rather than setting up an unfair advantage where people from socialist countries who pay very little for education are brought to America to replace AMERICAN citizens in the workforce.
I don’t blame businesses for wanting to take advantage of the fact that they can skirt onerous costs and regulations imposed by the US government. The fact that work visas represent an end run around regulations and also drive wages down is a travesty and I believe that we should adopt even more strict requirements similar to other countries concerning how and when work visas can be issued and used.
I’m not opposed to work visas or offshoring but I believe that we need to change the regulations to remove the incentives for businesses to take those routes.
I’ve personally seen a huge increase of Offshoring in my tech field and it isn’t even that they are paying for senior people at wages Americans wouldn’t work for if they had the chance. What happens is we pay staffing companies in India, Philippines, etc 65$ a hour to provide resources which are then paid a fraction of that as high as 35$ an hour. Usually this is for kids right out of school sometimes with zero real world experience. Routinely I’m given a team of newbies to break in from offshore.
My beef is that these could be jobs that Americans could be filling with a little effort. Its not like individuals with basic computer and coding skills are hard to find or train. If I’m going to be expected to train resources I’d much rather that effort go towards bettering the life of some urban or rural youth, a citizen, that needs a break.
Its true there are cultural and work ethic problems among many American youth but that isn’t going to change if we simply replace these youth with foreign workers. Instead what will happen is these youth become members of a permanent underclass which hurts us all.
Rand Paul leans libertarian if not a real one in the sheeps clothing. Libertarians are for open borders, the free movement of people and goods. No real sovereignty in other words.
I cannot vote for Rand Paul. His foreign and national security policies are as goofy as his father’s.
actually, there are (as previously noted) a few very specialized jobs available (presumably American citizens will be considered?)
just a very few, things like biochemist and statistician and computer war games coder.....
however, I have finally managed to find a job advert for a position (hopefully a “top” level one?) that I could do very well indeed .... (but alas, the website is defective and won’t let you link to the page where tis position is described more completely).... but anyway, going just by the title... I have finally found a promising job in the USA !! see what you think...
Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco
Job Posting Jan 8, 2014
Yes...you're right. You have a lot of work to do: 435 house members, 100 senators, this administration, all the agencies and departments, 5 taliban, ISIS, and a pile of dog sh#$%.
I don’t think you would want to be a “penetration tester” in San Fransisco
Re: “If the border is not controlled all else is just hot wind.”
The border is only half the problem.
Legal immigration is just as destructive, and probably worse.
In 2014 we issued or renewed about 1 million work visas, most of them for low skill or medium skill labor.
In 2014 we issued 1 million new Green Cards, most of them to low skill family members of immigrants already living in the USA.
New “Asylum” seekers now number almost 100,000 per year.
Finally, in 2014 we naturalized 750,000 new citizens.
80% of them will vote for the Democrat Party.
I envisioned this wrong. lol
” “So I consider myself a bridge to conservative community because Im about as conservative as they come, a little libertarian too ... “
“So I consider myself a bridge to Demonrat community because Im about as Libtardian as they come, a little moron too ...’
Fixed it for him.
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