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RAND PAUL CALLS FOR AN 'EXPANDED WORK VISA PROGRAM'
Breitbart ^ | June 23, 2014

Posted on 06/22/2014 11:21:18 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press," Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) warned conservatives when it comes to immigration reform the party needs to “get beyond” the term amnesty and move the focus to border security and work visas. The Kentucky Republican said, "I don't think any immigration reform will get out of Washington. I do think there is a path to a secure border and an expanded work visa program."

“I think that everyone needs to be for some form of immigration reform because the status quo is untenable," he continued. "So I consider myself a bridge to conservative community because I’m about as conservative as they come, a little libertarian too ... If we do nothing, 11 million more people will come illegally, so we have to do something.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; borders; elections; h1bvisa; illegalimmigration; invasion; kentucky; paul; rand; randpaul; randpaultruthfile; thekycandidate; treason
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FURP!! Amnesty pimps need not apply!! enforce the law!! SECURE THE BORDERS!!
1 posted on 06/22/2014 11:21:18 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

Geez, this guy is crapping all over himself lately.


2 posted on 06/22/2014 11:23:20 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The Arab Spring is over. Welcome to the Jihadi Spring." Jonah Goldberg)
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To: All

Rand is working for the democrats.


3 posted on 06/22/2014 11:23:31 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Randy can KMA. How ‘bout some work jobs for Americans first! We’ll hand out the VISA cards to the Guatemalans, Hondurans and El Salvadorans in their welcome baskets.


4 posted on 06/22/2014 11:23:49 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Feed the wacko enrviromentalists to the starving polar bears.)
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To: Jim Robinson

So he’s joined Team McConnell/Boehner has he? I’ll bet McCain no longer calls him a wackobird.


5 posted on 06/22/2014 11:23:57 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: NonValueAdded

Hey Rand, BLEEP YOU.


6 posted on 06/22/2014 11:25:02 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: Jim Robinson

If the border is not controlled all else is just hot wind.


7 posted on 06/22/2014 11:26:06 AM PDT by liege (America 180)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m sick and tired of walking through the door of the company I work for into a sea of H1B visas: Indians, Chinese, Russians, and Poles.

How about terminating the H1B program altogether and giving jobs to Americans?


8 posted on 06/22/2014 11:27:57 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod (Democrats are Cruz'n for a Bruisin' in 2016!)
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To: Jim Robinson

The ironic part is that Rand was running stronger before he started talking like this.


9 posted on 06/22/2014 11:28:27 AM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: Jim Robinson

Marco Rubio will co-sponsor, right?


10 posted on 06/22/2014 11:30:07 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Jim Robinson
Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) warned conservatives when it comes to immigration reform the party needs to “get beyond” the term amnesty

Hmmmm....sounds like Randie got the exact, same *Amnesty* memo that Brit Hume got...on the night of the (epic/glorious) Cantor upset.

11 posted on 06/22/2014 11:30:28 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: Jim Robinson

His ego is so big he might run as an independent if he loses the republican nomination. He might pull more votes from the democrat candidate then the republican. He’s out there.


12 posted on 06/22/2014 11:30:32 AM PDT by boycott
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To: Jim Robinson
"If we do nothing, 11 million more people will come illegally, so we have to do something.”

My head is gonna explode.

Eleven million people are coming because the government refuses to enforce current immigration laws. So what do you propose? More laws the government will refuse to enforce.

No vote for you, Rand. You've jumped the tiburon.

13 posted on 06/22/2014 11:34:36 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: NonValueAdded

Well somebody needs to tell Rand Paul that first about 70% of the people who pick our crops are US citizens. Second we already have about 40 guest worker programs already in place which I feel sure can accommodate the other 30% of the foreign (Mexican) farmworkers we need.

11 million illegals who are here already don’t need a visa has they could probably have signed up for one of the existing guest worker programs. Most of these illegals are not looking for farmwork. They are looking for construction work or plantwork. These are jobs Americans could and should be doing.

Every time some plant gets raided and they haul off a 100 illegals thousands of Americans line up the next day for the jobs.


14 posted on 06/22/2014 11:36:18 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Jim Robinson
i see a problem in the future: The farther the immigrants are flown away from Texas and Arizona at taxpayers' expense, the harder it will be to fly them all the way back to Texas and Arizona in order to send them back home to Latin America.

How about this idea: Send them to Hawaii and Illinois, Obama's home state and adopted state. I'm sure the good people of those states in Hawaii and Illinois would be most happy to greet as many of the illegal immigrant children as Obama can send them.

But I forgot this: I think Hawaii, with its large Asian population, only accepts illegal immigrants who sneak into Hawaii from Asia.

To control our southern borders and stop the thousands of children from Latin America from sneaking into the United States, we need at least two new amendments to the Constitution, something like this:

1. "School attendance: Only citizens, legal residents, those with special student visas can attend elementary, high school, and colleges in the United States."

2. "One parent must be a citizen before a newborn child is given automatic citizenship."

3. Felony: We must finally declare that crossing the border illegally is a felony.

Illegal parents come to the United States for the wonderful benefits that their children can receive, like a quality education and great health care. Can you blame them for making the dangerous, long trip with their young children, or sending their children by themselves with the hope that the United States will automatically let them stay?

I don't understand how a child can illegally cross the southern border one day and automatically be eligible to enroll in public school the next day. That is wrong.

15 posted on 06/22/2014 11:37:02 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: Jim Robinson
As I read the article, Paul is actually correct. He's not advocating amnesty, but in the exchange of ideas, the work visa and border security topics need to be tweaked.

I'm in farm country in NC, and there are entire communities that are hispanic, and the other communities are dominated by hispanic YOUTH. American youth are not staying to farm .

As for law enforcement, my county makes $1,500 per DWI in fines off of each migrant (legal or illegal). 20 drunks are hauled in per week. That is in excess of 80K a month of extra income for pension funds for county employees.

That is why no one wants to deport.

16 posted on 06/22/2014 11:38:03 AM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Jim Robinson
As long as Obama is in the WH and Reed leads the Senate no reasonable and responsible legislator should pass anything except articles of impeachment.

CC

17 posted on 06/22/2014 11:39:34 AM PDT by Captain Compassion
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To: Jim Robinson

Work visa, maybe, AFTER the border has been verifiably secured. And never - NEVER - for anyone who has already crossed the border illegally.


18 posted on 06/22/2014 11:40:27 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: Salvavida

B/S! Enforce the law! Secure the borders!!


19 posted on 06/22/2014 11:40:28 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Paine in the Neck

Yeah, I know. we’re really hurting for workers. /s


20 posted on 06/22/2014 11:41:28 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Most of these illegals are not looking for farmwork.

"Most" as in 97% - only 3% are involved in agriculture.

Its easy to spot a liar in this debate - he's the one talking about how badly we need illegals to pick our crops.

21 posted on 06/22/2014 11:42:18 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Jim Robinson

WHY can’t any of these guys just come out and say “ENFORCE THE DAMNED LAW?”

Good grief, what a total mush Rand Paul is proving to be. On just about every issue. The statements that spring forth from him, the contexts he uses, all the things that seem reflective of where his worldview lies... This is NOT the kind of person I look to as a leader. Much less someone I’m willing to even marginally trust.


22 posted on 06/22/2014 11:42:33 AM PDT by greene66
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To: Jim Robinson

I don’t see anywhere in the article where he’s advocating not enforcing the law. But he’s correct that the other two issues have to be worked on.


23 posted on 06/22/2014 11:44:16 AM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Border security and the rule of law is first.


24 posted on 06/22/2014 11:44:47 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Salvavida

The answer is a total pause, a total ending of all immigration until the system is enforced or rebuilt.


25 posted on 06/22/2014 11:45:51 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Salvavida

Just enforce the fricken law already!! All else is bullshit!!


26 posted on 06/22/2014 11:46:00 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

He is working hard to REPLACE AMERICANS.


27 posted on 06/22/2014 11:46:54 AM PDT by magna carta
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To: Jim Robinson; Servant of the Cross

Just damn.
I need to get to work on a Rand Paul circus graphic, just like the one I did for his daddy.


28 posted on 06/22/2014 11:47:18 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Jim Robinson

Just follow what is on the books. Nothing else is needed. Just follow the law.


29 posted on 06/22/2014 11:47:43 AM PDT by mulligan (I)
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To: Jim Robinson

Paul has disqualified himself from any consideration for the Presidency.
An expanded work permit program for foreigners... could make some sense if we had a decent economy with jobs.
Right now in the fifth or sixth year of the Great Obama Depression, there are no jobs for American citizens who want to work (outside of a few specialized areas).
If we were to let more foreign nationals in to work here, NOW IS EXACTLY THE WRONG TIME for this sort of policy.
We need to restore, rebuild the American economy first (which means we have to wait until at least 2017 and then see what we can do to get trust and investment and JOBS going again....)


30 posted on 06/22/2014 11:48:47 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: Jim Robinson

Because that’s what we need right now! The stupidest among us are our masters.


31 posted on 06/22/2014 11:49:08 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Jim Robinson

25% of our work-force unemployed, and this is what Paul comes up with?

What would he offer up if 50% were out of work, citizenship for every human and no future border checks?


32 posted on 06/22/2014 11:51:46 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Jim Robinson

I already added Rand to the list months ago....


33 posted on 06/22/2014 11:52:05 AM PDT by mowowie
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To: Jim Robinson

Paul is just another damned-fool traitor who’s willing to destroy the country if it means he can get himself some power. He won’t be getting it with my help.


34 posted on 06/22/2014 11:52:14 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: skeeter

Glad you outlined that. Drives me crazy. This country is crawling with illegals that only pick government paychecks.


35 posted on 06/22/2014 11:52:28 AM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: humblegunner

Just replace the face.


36 posted on 06/22/2014 11:52:42 AM PDT by CommieCutter ("For an idea to be too simplistic, it must first be proven wrong" --Thomas Sowell)
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To: GeronL
I can get behind that, though it won't happen with this administration.
37 posted on 06/22/2014 11:52:51 AM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Salvavida

or any RINO one


38 posted on 06/22/2014 11:53:57 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: CommieCutter

But there are so many cool new characters to add now.


39 posted on 06/22/2014 11:54:49 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Jim Robinson

What Rand and others should start focusing on if they want to help AMERICAN citizens is to encourage businesses to embrace apprenticeship programs and also grant regulatory advantages to businesses who hire and develop AMERICAN citizens as a part of their workforce rather than setting up an unfair advantage where people from socialist countries who pay very little for education are brought to America to replace AMERICAN citizens in the workforce.

I don’t blame businesses for wanting to take advantage of the fact that they can skirt onerous costs and regulations imposed by the US government. The fact that work visas represent an end run around regulations and also drive wages down is a travesty and I believe that we should adopt even more strict requirements similar to other countries concerning how and when work visas can be issued and used.
I’m not opposed to work visas or offshoring but I believe that we need to change the regulations to remove the incentives for businesses to take those routes.

I’ve personally seen a huge increase of Offshoring in my tech field and it isn’t even that they are paying for senior people at wages Americans wouldn’t work for if they had the chance. What happens is we pay staffing companies in India, Philippines, etc 65$ a hour to provide resources which are then paid a fraction of that as high as 35$ an hour. Usually this is for kids right out of school sometimes with zero real world experience. Routinely I’m given a team of newbies to break in from offshore.

My beef is that these could be jobs that Americans could be filling with a little effort. Its not like individuals with basic computer and coding skills are hard to find or train. If I’m going to be expected to train resources I’d much rather that effort go towards bettering the life of some urban or rural youth, a citizen, that needs a break.

Its true there are cultural and work ethic problems among many American youth but that isn’t going to change if we simply replace these youth with foreign workers. Instead what will happen is these youth become members of a permanent underclass which hurts us all.


40 posted on 06/22/2014 11:55:08 AM PDT by Maelstorm (America wasn't founded with the battle cry of "Give me Liberty or cut me a government check!".)
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To: Maelstorm

Rand Paul leans libertarian if not a real one in the sheeps clothing. Libertarians are for open borders, the free movement of people and goods. No real sovereignty in other words.


41 posted on 06/22/2014 11:56:25 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: NonValueAdded
Wig Wearing Weirdo


42 posted on 06/22/2014 11:56:26 AM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: CommieCutter
Many of the "perfomers" in the circus need updated...


43 posted on 06/22/2014 11:57:32 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Jim Robinson

I cannot vote for Rand Paul. His foreign and national security policies are as goofy as his father’s.


44 posted on 06/22/2014 11:58:06 AM PDT by conservativehistorian (civilizational suicide continues)
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To: Jim Robinson

ps:

actually, there are (as previously noted) a few very specialized jobs available (presumably American citizens will be considered?)

just a very few, things like biochemist and statistician and computer war games coder.....

however, I have finally managed to find a job advert for a position (hopefully a “top” level one?) that I could do very well indeed .... (but alas, the website is defective and won’t let you link to the page where tis position is described more completely).... but anyway, going just by the title... I have finally found a promising job in the USA !! see what you think...

Penetration Tester
-234346
Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco
CA-San Francisco
Job Posting Jan 8, 2014


45 posted on 06/22/2014 11:59:02 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: humblegunner
But there are so many cool new characters to add now.

Yes...you're right. You have a lot of work to do: 435 house members, 100 senators, this administration, all the agencies and departments, 5 taliban, ISIS, and a pile of dog sh#$%.

46 posted on 06/22/2014 12:01:52 PM PDT by CommieCutter ("For an idea to be too simplistic, it must first be proven wrong" --Thomas Sowell)
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To: faithhopecharity

I don’t think you would want to be a “penetration tester” in San Fransisco

lolz


47 posted on 06/22/2014 12:02:43 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: liege

Re: “If the border is not controlled all else is just hot wind.”

The border is only half the problem.

Legal immigration is just as destructive, and probably worse.

In 2014 we issued or renewed about 1 million work visas, most of them for low skill or medium skill labor.

In 2014 we issued 1 million new Green Cards, most of them to low skill family members of immigrants already living in the USA.

New “Asylum” seekers now number almost 100,000 per year.

Finally, in 2014 we naturalized 750,000 new citizens.

80% of them will vote for the Democrat Party.


48 posted on 06/22/2014 12:02:45 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: humblegunner

I envisioned this wrong. lol


49 posted on 06/22/2014 12:02:55 PM PDT by CommieCutter ("For an idea to be too simplistic, it must first be proven wrong" --Thomas Sowell)
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To: Jim Robinson

” “So I consider myself a bridge to conservative community because I’m about as conservative as they come, a little libertarian too ... “

“So I consider myself a bridge to Demonrat community because I’m about as Libtardian as they come, a little moron too ...’

Fixed it for him.


50 posted on 06/22/2014 12:08:27 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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