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Investment & Finance Thread (week June 22 - 28 edition)
Daily investment & finance thread ^ | June 22, 2014 | Freeper Investors

Posted on 06/22/2014 11:28:08 AM PDT by expat_panama

 

 

While this past week many have reported how gold bumped up 3.4%, we should also note that silver leapt 6.7%.   Here they are w/ the DJIA and the S&P500 (from here)--

--but those two indexes really weren't the best performing indexes this week. 

In fact a look at a spread of indexes (from there) shows that say, utilities did even better than gold.  

Individual stock leaders did well ("the week, the IBD 50 rose 3.4%" (read more @IBD) and that's a bullish sign assuming that those leaders continue to lead.  

As usual, the pundits are all up, down,--

New Market Highs Don't Mean You Must Sell - John Waggoner, USA Today
A Sign of 'Dangerously Overvalued' Stocks - Mark Hulbert, MarketWatch

--and in-between--

:How to Prepare for Meltup or Meltdown - Mitchell Tuchman, MarketWatch

This is the thread where folks swap ideas on savings and investment --here's a list of popular investing links that freepers have posted here and tomorrow morning we'll go on with our--

Open invitation continues always for idea-input for the thread, this being a joint effort works well.   Keywords: financial, WallStreet, stock



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
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To: abb; Lurkina.n.Learnin

Amazing, and just 2 months ago we were being told the quarter was expanding at +0.1%?


21 posted on 06/25/2014 5:58:09 AM PDT by expat_panama
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futures turning sour; the deflator said we got rising prices with this contraction.


22 posted on 06/25/2014 6:00:00 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

You can figure that one just by grocery shopping.


23 posted on 06/25/2014 6:20:16 AM PDT by abb
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To: expat_panama

This makes it pretty hard to argue against the eroding confidence in govt numbers.


24 posted on 06/25/2014 9:36:14 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin
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To: abb; Abigail Adams; abigail2; AK_47_7.62x39; Aliska; Aquamarine; Archie Bunker on steroids; ...

Good Morning all!!  As of yesterday's trades our stock uptrend's back on track and todays futures are steady --except off for metals.  Funny how we see headlines like Stocks put aside U.S. growth setback, reality is evidently that current prices already included a contraction.  Big report day--

Initial Claims
Continuing Claims
Personal Income
Personal Spending
PCE Prices - Core
Natural Gas Inventories
Michigan Sentiment - Final

--but news seemed thin:

Apple Joins the Five Most Heavily Shorted Nasdaq Stocks A surge in short interest in Apple shares between the May 30 and June 13 settlement dates was enough to lift the tech giant into the top five most shorted stocks on the Nasdaq. 24/7 Wall St.

GDP, and Obama's Massively Subpar Growth Record - Editorial, Investor's


25 posted on 06/26/2014 4:01:45 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin; abb
There's an old saying that figures don't lie but liars figure and it sure seems that way w/ gov't stats, that whenever one number points one way there are so many others that give a more complete picture.

Of course the press is different, they can just lie and just hang on...

26 posted on 06/26/2014 4:07:09 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: abb; Abigail Adams; abigail2; AK_47_7.62x39; Aliska; Aquamarine; Archie Bunker on steroids; ...

Happy Friday morning all!  So while yesterday stocks were flat in low volume while metals were off a bit, this morning futures are seeing stocks off a bit and a return w/ metals.  A lot of econ chatter on these threads this past 24 hours:

The Pitchforks Are Coming… For Us Plutocrats

Negative Nominal Interest Rates: Highway to a Cashless, Statist Hell

Stone Cold Proof That Government Economic Numbers Are Being Highly Manipulated

For most families, wealth has vanished

GDP shrinks 2.9%; Obama's economic growth gap grows to $1.6 Trillion


27 posted on 06/27/2014 4:17:22 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama
Amazing, and just 2 months ago we were being told the quarter was expanding at +0.1%?

Truth be known, the 2008 rec(depr)ession never ended, and is now ready to bite back with a vengeance.

This may counter conventional thinking right now, but if you factor out QE, it is exactly what has happened.

The Obama administration has cooked the books far beyond any other previous administration, as in evidence of several revised data points which are beyond head scratchers. I also wouldn't doubt that there are many in the GOP(e) who are also complicit in this financial shell game on a grand scale.

I am no gold bug, but recent events are making it more attractive.

28 posted on 06/27/2014 4:26:22 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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Econ reports are looking more and more like the globalwarming story the way politics is twisting the numbers, but in both cases there are just too many ways reality can bite that true believers have to keep trying harder to shut their eyes.

We’re agreed that changes have become more obvious, but gold’s average price over several decades has been $500 in 2014$ so short term moves are hard to tell.


29 posted on 06/27/2014 6:32:45 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama
We’re agreed that changes have become more obvious, but gold’s average price over several decades has been $500 in 2014$ so short term moves are hard to tell.

Great point, but how close are we to that $500 price point are we since our currency has been artificially propped up. Kind of an invisible inflationary pressure so to say.

30 posted on 06/27/2014 9:04:26 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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currency has been artificially propped up. Kind of an invisible inflationary pressure

That's why I was saying gold averaged $500 in 2014$, it's the price after inflation's taken back out of it, meaning the exchange rate of gold for "typical things people buy" these days is still pointing to a further return to gold buying less and less.  Example (from here):


31 posted on 06/27/2014 11:31:49 AM PDT by expat_panama
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