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Duginís Evil Theology - His Eurasianism is a satanic cult
nationalreview.com ^ | June 18, 2014 | Robert Zubrin

Posted on 06/22/2014 12:17:31 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

Men of action cut a large figure in the history books, but it is the ideas placed in their heads by men of thought that actually determine what they do. Thus the scribblings of mad philosophers can lead to the deaths of millions. As the modern-day heir to this tradition, Alexander Dugin bids fair to break the record.

Most Americans don’t know anything about Alexander Dugin. They need to, because Dugin is the mad philosopher who is redesigning the brains of much of the Russian government and public, filling their minds with a new hate-ridden totalitarian ideology whose consequences can only be catastrophic in the extreme, not only for Russia, but for the entire human race.

In recent months, as the embrace of Duginist ideas by the Putin regime has become ever more evident, a number of articles have been written calling attention to the threat. But now, with the appearance of “The American Empire Should Be Destroyed”: Alexander Dugin and the Perils of Immanentized Eschatology, by James Heiser, we finally have a book-length treatment. It is well worth reading.

Heiser is a bishop of the Lutheran church, and, accordingly, he deals with both the political and the theological aspects of Dugin’s allegedly conservative but actually neopagan “Eurasianist” ideology. The subtitle of the book may put off a number of readers, but as a plain-spoken engineer who would cross the street to avoid terms like “immanentized eschatology,” I found the writing to be clear enough overall, and in some places elegant.

Heiser follows Dugin’s career, moving from his expulsion from the Moscow Aviation Institute for involvement in proto-Nazi mystical circles in the early 1980s, through his continued development in association with various Thule Society–like organizations through the late Eighties, his contacts with the anti-democratic European Nouvelle Droite, his co-founding and career with the National Bolshevik Party in the 1990s, and his subsequent move into the Russian political mainstream following from his realization that he could gain far more influence as an adviser to those in power than he ever could operating as a splinter party on his own.

Heiser then proceeds to dissect Dugin’s political and geopolitical ideology of Eurasianism. The core idea of this is that “liberalism” (by which Dugin means the entire Western consensus) represents an assault on the traditional hierarchical organization of the world. Repeating the ideas of Nazi theorists Karl Haushofer, Rudolf Hess, Carl Schmitt, and Arthur Moeller van den Bruck, Dugin says that this liberal threat is not new, but is the ideology of the maritime-cosmopolitan power “Atlantis,” which has conspired to subvert more conservative land-based societies since ancient times. Accordingly he has written books in which he has reconstructed the entire history of the world as a continuous battle between these two factions, from Rome vs. Carthage to Russia vs. the Anglo-Saxon “Atlantic Order” today. If it is to win its fight against the subversive oceanic bearers of such “racist” (because foreign imposed) ideas as human rights, Russia must unite around itself all the continental powers, including Germany, Central and Eastern Europe, the former Soviet republics, Turkey, Iran, and Korea, into grand Eurasian Union strong enough to defeat the West.

In order to be so united “from Lisbon to Vladivostok,” this Eurasian Union will need a defining ideology, and for this purpose Dugin has developed a new “Fourth Political Theory” combining all the strongest points of Communism, Nazism, Ecologism, and Traditionalism, thereby allowing it to appeal to the adherents of all of these diverse anti-liberal creeds. He would adopt Communism’s opposition to free enterprise. However, he would drop the Marxist commitment to technological progress, a liberal-derived ideal, in favor of Ecologism’s demagogic appeal to stop the advance of industry and modernity. From Traditionalism, he derives a justification for stopping free thought. All the rest is straight out of Nazism, ranging from legal theories justifying unlimited state power and the elimination of individual rights, to the need for populations “rooted” in the soil, to weird gnostic ideas about the secret origin of the Aryan race in the North Pole.

What Russia needs, says Dugin, is a “genuine, true, radically revolutionary and consistent, fascist fascism.” On the other hand, “Liberalism, is an absolute evil. . . . Only a global crusade against the U.S., the West, globalization, and their political-ideological expression, liberalism, is capable of becoming an adequate response. . . . The American empire should be destroyed.”

Heiser then provides a chilling analysis of Dugin’s theology:

It would be our contention that Dugin’s fusion of Traditionalism and Eurasianism has become a “gnostic mass movement” of the third type, “activist mysticism.” It is not an exaggeration to state that Dugin’s intended goal, his telos, is the End of the World, and that the accomplishment of that end is dependent, he believes, on the implementation of his ideology. As Dugin has proclaimed in his recent book, The Fourth Political Theory:

“The end times and the eschatological meaning of politics will not realize themselves on their own. We will wait for the end in vain. The end will never come if we wait for it, and it will never come if we do not. . . . If the Fourth Political Practice is not able to realize the end of times, then it would be invalid. The end of days should come, but it will not come by itself. This is a task, it is not a certainty. It is an active metaphysics. It is a practice.”

This desire to bring about the end of the world is not a sudden development in Dugin’s thought. As noted in the quotation at the beginning of this chapter, as early as 2001, Dugin’s intentions were being published abroad, and could be read by an English-speaking audience. In 2001, [Stephen] Shenfield observes that Dugin’s eschatological view is “Manichean” — which is to say, a dualistic form of Gnosticism which views the world as a battleground of equally matched forces of good and evil, in which spiritual forces of light contend with material forces of evil. Into this Manichaenism, Dugin admixes Christian concepts, oft repeating the notion that the West is the realm of “Antichrist.” As Shenfield quotes Dugin:

“The meaning of Russia is that through the Russian people will be realized the last thought of God, the thought of the End of the World. . . . Death is the way to immortality. Love will begin when the world ends. We must long for it, like true Christians. . . . We are uprooting the accursed Tree of Knowledge. With it will perish the Universe.”

Shenfield then observes: “Alexander Yanov, quoting these lines, concludes that Dugin’s ‘real dream is of death, first of all the death of Russia.’ In his reply, Dugin avoids dealing directly with the substance of Yanov’s critique, but observes that he fails to appreciate the positive significance of death . . .”

It is hard to know how to react to someone who claims to want to bring about the end of the world. When that desire is expressed with a thick Russian accent, the hearer is all the more likely to simply dismiss the speaker as some sort of “super villain” from a bad “action/adventure” movie. It is a claim which evokes the snicker — until one realizes that the man who thinks that the “meaning of Russia” is “the End of the World” is the man whose geopolitical doctrine is being implemented by the ruler of Russia.

Heiser continues:

Dugin is quite keen on the notion that the coming age is the third, and final, age. As Dugin wrote in “The Metaphysics of National-Bolshevism”:

“Beyond ‘rights’ and ‘lefts,’ there’s one and indivisible Revolution, in the dialectical triad ‘third Rome — Third Reich — third International.” The realm of national-bolshevism, Regnum, their Empire of the End, this is the perfect accomplishment of the greatest Revolution of history, both a continental and universal one. It is the angels’ return, heroes’ resurrection, the heart’s uprising against the reason’s dictatorship. This last revolution is a concern of the acephal, the headless bearer of the cross, sickle and hammer, crowned by eternal sun fylfot.”

This “Empire of the End” is marked by the “dialectical triad” which combines “Third Rome — Third Reich — Third International.” All the expectations of historic Russian messianic delusions, combined with the Joachimite aims of Nazism and Soviet Bolshevism, purportedly find their highest expression in this new ideology, according to Dugin.

Finally, Heiser comments on Dugin’s worship of Chaos, and the adoption of the occult symbol of the eight-pointed “Star of Chaos” as the emblem (and, when inscribed in gold on a black background, the flag) of the Eurasianist movement.

“For Dugin, logos is replaced by chaos, and the very symbol of chaos magic is the symbol of Eurasia: ‘Logos has expired and we all will be buried under its ruins unless we make an appeal to chaos and its metaphysical principles, and use them as a basis for something new.’ Dugin dressed his discussion of logos in the language of Heidegger, but his terminology cannot be read outside of a 2,000-year-old Western, biblical tradition which associates the Logos with the Christ, and Dugin’s invocation of chaos against logos leads to certain inevitable conclusions regarding his doctrines.”

In short, Dugin’s Eurasianism is a satanic cult. This is the ideology behind the Putin regime’s “Eurasian Union” project. It is to this dark program, which threatens not only the prospects for freedom in Ukraine and Russia, but the peace of the world, that former Ukrainian president Victor Yanukovych tried to sell “his” country. It is against this program that the courageous protesters in the Maidan took their stand and — with scandalously little help from the West — somehow miraculously prevailed. It is on behalf of this program that the Putin regime has created a bloodbath in eastern Ukraine, which, following Dugin, it now terms “New Russia.” It is on behalf of this program that Dugin, with massive support from the Russian government, has organized a fascist international of European fringe parties, and on behalf of this program that the Quislings leading those parties are willing to betray their nations to Kremlin domination.

Without Ukraine, Dugin’s fascist Eurasian Union project is impossible, and sooner or later Russia itself will have join the West and become free, leaving only a few despised and doomed islands of tyranny around the globe. But with Ukraine underfoot, the Eurasianist program can and will proceed, and a new iron curtain will fall into place imprisoning a large fraction of humanity in the grip of a monstrous totalitarian power that will become the arsenal of evil around the world for decades to come. That means another cold war, trillions of dollars wasted on arms, accelerated growth of the national-security state at home, repeated proxy conflicts costing millions of lives abroad, and civilization itself placed at risk should a single misstep in the endless insane great-power game precipitate the locked and loaded confrontation into a thermonuclear exchange.

Only this time, our cold-war opponents will not be secular Communists, but true believers of a death-worshipping cult that would like to bring about the end of the world.

Every victory for their expansionist program abroad enhances the Eurasianists’ power within Russia. As a result of the Western capitulation so far, the Duginite movement is growing exponentially, while the forces of sanity are being cowed or crushed. If Ukraine falls, Vladimir Putin may discover that, like the German generals who empowered Hitler, he has fostered the birth of a monster he can no longer control.

Maybe he should read Heiser’s book too.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: alexanderdugin; eurasianism; neosovietempire; neostalinist; russia
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1 posted on 06/22/2014 12:17:32 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Very interesting article...and scary. I kept waiting for the names Blavatsky or Crowley to appear.


2 posted on 06/22/2014 12:24:52 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: Race is his cover...jihad is his game.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; GOPsterinMA; randita; Sun; LdSentinal; ...

Russia seems to be embracing fascism, an odd direction for a nation that was once the bastion of Marxism.


3 posted on 06/22/2014 12:31:02 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (The War on Drugs is Big Government statism)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

bookmark


4 posted on 06/22/2014 12:31:37 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Clintonfatigued

The whole world seems to be moving to fascism these days from the US to Venezuela, the EUSSR and Russia


5 posted on 06/22/2014 12:32:29 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Communism always morphs into some form of Fascism.

And here is Russia’s entry: National Bolshevism!

As America disintegrates under the hand of the Obama Regime, the world becomes an increasingly dangerous place.

Tell your friends. They need to know.


6 posted on 06/22/2014 12:46:11 PM PDT by ChicagahAl (Don't blame me. I voted for Sarah.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Russia seems to be embracing fascism, an odd direction for a nation that was once the bastion of Marxism.

I do not think so. The communists own the means of production and the fascists do not own, but simply control the means of production. In an ugly pragmatic world, fascism is more efficient than communism! Thus we have the "neo-communists" are communist who evolved to fascism or its evil step brother, crony capitalism.

7 posted on 06/22/2014 12:47:37 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Global Warming is caused by illegal immigrants!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Sort of the way obama was part black part white part Christian part mooslim part male part female androgynous so he could appeal to all morons alike


8 posted on 06/22/2014 12:48:57 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

putin’s Rasputin


9 posted on 06/22/2014 12:49:37 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
So... Is Dugin = Putin's "Dietrich Eckart"?
10 posted on 06/22/2014 12:50:17 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: Tailgunner Joe

In recent months FR has picked up new freepers who are Russian and live in Russia, and post in support of Putin and Russian expansion, I wonder what they will have to say about this.


11 posted on 06/22/2014 1:10:25 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ChicagahAl
Russia's Nationalist Fringe Takes Center Stage In Eastern Ukraine - June 17, 2014 - For years, Eduard Limonov has been an arrest-on-sight target for police during street rallies and his "Strategy 31" freedom-of-assembly rallies have long been banned. But on May 31, the authorities allowed Limonov to hold his demonstration. He returned the favor by giving a speech parroting the Kremlin line that the United States, the European Union, and the authorities in Kyiv were waging war on the Ukrainian people. On June 10, Limonov's Other Russia organization called on its volunteers to travel to the eastern Ukrainian separatist stronghold of Slovyansk.

Ukraine crisis: Crimea is just the first step, say Moscow's pro-Putin demonstrators - March 10, 2014 - The well-known Russian nationalist Eduard Limonov said from the stage that Russia must return all its territories lost after the USSR collapse.


12 posted on 06/22/2014 1:14:16 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: LegendHasIt

Putin will dance, but it is Dugin who has called tune.


13 posted on 06/22/2014 1:15:38 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: ansel12

Ping me when they do, please?


14 posted on 06/22/2014 1:16:50 PM PDT by null and void (In this war, the front line is at your front door...)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Thanks for posting gunner! It’s just so much easier to destroy than to build. New name same old rebellion. For those interested, I suggest some truly right thinking antidotal wisdom found in this ancient Hebrew literature - Psalm 1, ...” the way of the ungodly shall perish.” I wonder if ole Alexander has ever bothered to read it?


15 posted on 06/22/2014 1:25:21 PM PDT by Lake Living
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Funny, I never thought of Putin as a dupe, a follower, but you might be right!

World gets weirder by the day.


16 posted on 06/22/2014 1:25:57 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: Clintonfatigued
Russia seems to be embracing fascism, an odd direction for a nation that was once the bastion of Marxism.

Under Stalin, Russia was closer to National Bolshevism than Marxism.

17 posted on 06/22/2014 1:29:02 PM PDT by fso301
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To: FreeReign; rbmillerjr; elhombrelibre; 1rudeboy; AdmSmith; SunkenCiv; MarMema; eleni121; ...

Ping


18 posted on 06/22/2014 1:54:11 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Sounds like dabbling in trouble.


19 posted on 06/22/2014 1:56:51 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

~~~If the Fourth Political Practice is not able to realize the end of times, then it would be invalid. The end of days should come, but it will not come by itself. This is a task, it is not a certainty. It is an active metaphysics. It is a practice.”~~~

Holy cow. We only tell people of what is prophesied, we are NOT to MAKE it happen.

Many, many years ago, under Putin, Russian ‘priests’ were blessing .... ICBM’s ... sprinkling them with ‘holy water’.

Truth is stranger than fiction, sometimes.


20 posted on 06/22/2014 1:58:13 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: LegendHasIt

Well, even a zillionaire has to have some kind of life philosophy.


21 posted on 06/22/2014 1:59:01 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: F15Eagle

Well, maybe they were blessed to never be used, for all we know.

We have demons on one side, and God on the other.

Pretty sure which one will win if given an even footing.


22 posted on 06/22/2014 2:00:19 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

And all the FR Putinistas read that and popped a chubby.


23 posted on 06/22/2014 2:02:05 PM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; Tailgunner Joe

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1975208/posts

~~~Yet most Russians say they follow Orthodoxy for national rather than moral reasons. Deeply patriotic and with a declared intention of making Russia great again, the Church has milked the sentiment.

Priests are regularly seen on television sprinkling holy water on bombers and even nuclear missiles, a blessing that reinforces Mr Putin’s own militaristic philosophy.~~~


24 posted on 06/22/2014 2:03:16 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Kozak

That’s a lot, to insinuate there are a bunch of devil worshipers aboard FR.


25 posted on 06/22/2014 2:05:07 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: F15Eagle

If they’re believers, this could be a move that helps the chances of peace. Regardless of how the church is viewed by larger Russia.


26 posted on 06/22/2014 2:06:21 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

If they had been protesting, then I might believe that.

But then, I’ll admit I don’t think it’s an accident that Mother Russia has been helping and excusing Iran, either.


27 posted on 06/22/2014 2:08:09 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Maybe there are.being conservative does not require Christian faith.7


28 posted on 06/22/2014 2:18:01 PM PDT by Deathtomarxists (obama has a stinky stick)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Russia seems to be embracing fascism, an odd direction for a nation that was once the bastion of Marxism.

Not so odd. Both fascism and communism hold that the individual is the property of the Group/State, that the job of the individual is to advance the goals of the Group, and that seeking one's own personal goals and happiness is wicked.

Substitute "God" for the Group, and you would have some theologians all in favor of the idea.

29 posted on 06/22/2014 2:19:47 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: RoosterRedux

I also was expecting it, as, apparently, Dugin has indeed promoted Crowley and his writings too.


30 posted on 06/22/2014 2:20:16 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Not really. Fascism, National Socialism, and Communism, are all closely related. In Germany, the Communists and Nazis were fighting for the same time of people to join, and often members would switch from one party to the other, rather easily.


31 posted on 06/22/2014 2:21:26 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Not to worry.

We have 0bama, Kerry and Jarrett leading us. Holder is holding the coats, Reid, Boehner, Piglosi, and McConnell are backstopping, and the EPA and IRS are pioneering The Way forward!

FORWARD!!

32 posted on 06/22/2014 2:23:59 PM PDT by Gritty (The war is over. We won. - Michael Yon, Top Iraq War Correspondent, 07/21/2008)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Interesting. Ping for more thorough reading later.


33 posted on 06/22/2014 2:27:48 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: Clintonfatigued

Fascism is a form of Marxism. Except it is a little wiser, using the clergy and corporation for its own ends. Both on the extreme left of the political continuum.


34 posted on 06/22/2014 2:32:10 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Is that right? I hadn't heard of Dugin before but I will check him out from now own.

That Crowley stuff is dangerous whether to an individual, a group or a nation.

Pure occultism/demonology.

35 posted on 06/22/2014 2:35:41 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: Race is his cover...jihad is his game.)
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To: F15Eagle

Well, a blessing from God is to put something to a good use. I bet God thinks they are just fine sitting idle where they are (and maybe, quietly failing)


36 posted on 06/22/2014 2:57:31 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Sure looks like it is of more import than Nancy Reagan reading the horoscopes.


37 posted on 06/22/2014 2:59:06 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Sounds like a slightly less drunk Zhirinovsky.


38 posted on 06/22/2014 3:01:22 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: HiTech RedNeck

That will not be the future.

Ezekiel 38 shows that.


39 posted on 06/22/2014 3:09:43 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Tailgunner Joe; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ...

Thanks Tailgunner Joe.


40 posted on 06/22/2014 3:12:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Heheh. And even that made me a little nervous (probably without cause).


41 posted on 06/22/2014 3:16:09 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: Race is his cover...jihad is his game.)
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To: F15Eagle

And during WWI I’d wager that the then-new chemical chlorine bombs were figured into that prophecy.

Nukes are fearsome but also there are excellent reasons why a superpower would want to avoid using them. They do tend to pollute the globe badly.


42 posted on 06/22/2014 3:19:17 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

If there had been an official state of Israel in WWI and Iran was an aggressor....and ruled by 12th-imam-mullahs.


43 posted on 06/22/2014 3:21:52 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: F15Eagle

There’s no way that Iran could out nuke Russia if it came down to that.


44 posted on 06/22/2014 3:23:37 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: F15Eagle

And yet granted... digging into the occult is known to produce great and irrational madness. Hitler is case in point. He might have won more of his battles if they had not been conducted with rage.

At best, a big maybe. The good Lord is larger than all these troubles, however. We need not fear any of them, or all of them together, could ever knock our Savior off the throne.


45 posted on 06/22/2014 3:26:54 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

That’s not it.

It will not be Iran fighting Russia. It is Russia working with Iran. A hook in the jaw seems to indicate that this was not the north power’s original intent but as the situation developed.

It is that Persia is captained or led by a power from the north parts against Israel. In the latter days and the latter years (the KJV terminology).

Images put together by somebody but the reading is KJV, I believe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zuYCM0g2kc

Israel prepared for nuclear war against the Russians. There was a reason Aviem Sella wanted the nuclear release computer for the F0-4 Phantom II from the USA. And it’s no coincidence he commanded Tel Nof.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviem_Sella


46 posted on 06/22/2014 3:33:07 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: F15Eagle

fat-finger typo again

F-4 Phantom II


47 posted on 06/22/2014 3:34:16 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Clintonfatigued

.... and Obama is current on their change in philosophy. That is why Obama promised putin more flexibility.

With this, I fully expect a nuclear Iran in the near term.

This shifts all responsibility for western man onto Israel.


48 posted on 06/22/2014 3:34:30 PM PDT by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: 444Flyer; Diana in Wisconsin; svcw; Esther Ruth; GiovannaNicoletta; Diogenesis; EternalVigilance; ..

fyi


49 posted on 06/22/2014 3:45:26 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Pretty sure this scum has a television show that is popular...but more later, off to work.


50 posted on 06/22/2014 5:13:15 PM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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