Skip to comments.Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria
Posted on 06/22/2014 5:17:33 PM PDT by xzins
Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said Sunday that the Sunni militants taking over Iraq have quickly gained power because the United States has armed their group in Syria.
I think we have to understand first how we got here, he said on CNNs State of the Union. We have been arming [the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria] ISIS in Syria.
ISIS, an al Qaeda offshoot, has been collaborating with the Syrian rebels whom the Obama administration has been arming in their efforts to overthrow Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, Paul explained.
The administration has reportedly assisted the moderate opposition in Syria, but details about the dissemination of those resources are unclear.
That is the real contradiction to this whole policy, Paul said. If we were to get rid of Assad, it would become a jihadist wonderland in Syria.
Paul is right on this.
We have been arming terrorists in Syria. We have been arming just about anyone opposed to Assad in an effort to overthrow Assad.
Yesterday, there were 3 strange reports:
1. Syrian Air Force might have just assisted Maliki against ISIL in Mosul.
2. Putin has agreed to help Maliki.
3. The King of Clubs, Al Douri, is the leader of ISIL now fighting in Iraq. He was Saddam’s former Vice President and a knowledgeable WMD general.
So, US policy has us fighting the people we were supporting and getting help from the people we were fighting, and having Obama’s nemesis, Putin, coming to the aid of Maliki the guy we support and that Iran supports.
In other words, as I put it together. Our foreign policy is lying through its teeth about what’s going on.
John McCain poses for pictures with them, what are we supposed to think.
And who says Bam Bams foreign policy isn’t going well. /s
It’s true but with the Saudis backing ISIS it may not matter that much. They would have gotten what they needed anyway.
Paul said. If we were to get rid of Assad, it would become a jihadist wonderland in Syria.
Glad to see he got something right again.
Well, obviously, we want ISIS to win in Syria, but not in Iraq. And Iran is now our new best friend.
Get with the Program. [/s]
Benghazi was an arms deal gone bad. No backup was sent in because they WANTED those killed to be silenced.
How did this guy escape being hung alongside Hussein?
Al Douri captured the judge who sentenced Saddam to death, to day I think, and had him executed.
Al Douri’s chemical expertise also argues that the terrorists in Syria are also likely culprits regarding the chemical weapons attacks in Syria. It also makes one wonder about Saddam’s weapons in Syria.
Duh, where do you think they got the M 16’s?
Paul could be right, but i need to see it from someone else to be sure.
I no longer trust him
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Unfortunately, like many of the major debates in Washington, immigration has become a stalemate-where both sides are imprisoned by their own rhetoric or attachment to sacred cows that prevent the possibility of a balanced solution.
Immigration Reform will not occur until Conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. I am here today to begin that conversation.
Let's start that conversation by acknowledging we aren't going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.
If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you...
This is where prudence, compassion and thrift all point us toward the same goal: bringing these workers out of the shadows and into being taxpaying members of society.
Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors.
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[but he's not in favor of amnesty, snicker, definition of is is]
“And Iran is now our new best friend.”
Iran wants us to be Best Man. Today they warned the US to stay out of Iraq.
So they want us to “loan” them `walking around’ money, weapons, ammunition, military expertise so they can kill Sunnis since they can’t seem to do it themselves very well—in other words, to lift them on and off, but otherwise to stay out of their way, off their honeymoon with Iraqi Shias.
Barry always manages to get us the worst of all possible worlds in any given situation.
Rand is finally giving voice to what many of us here have seen.
Under Obama we have switched sides in the war on terror. It has been camouflaged with PR and word-fog and generally obfuscated but we have switched sides.
This is where Paul is actually right..McCain posted for pictures with these punks..of course the US has been arming ISIS, its been going on for a while
My key is bearded muslim = not “moderate” muslim. McCain ws posing with some hairy dudes...
And never forget that the Democrats did not do it alone. The GOP provided LOTS of cover. McCain being the boldest example.
But cover they did.
John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and Mike Rogers are the most visible of the GOP quislings but I’m sure there are many more.
Iraq crisis: Red-haired devil of Saddam’s Iraq back in the fray
So Mr. Paul.. did Obama or Bush arm ISIS?...because you and some other libertarians say Bush lost Iraq to ISIS but ISIS can’t fight without weapons..
Haven’t we learned ANYTHING since 1979? ANYTHING?
We have no Muslim “friends”. The Muslims cozy up to us when it benefits them in the short term. As soon as they don’t need us, they turn on us and kill us.
Until Islamic countries demonstrate a willingness to confront and FIGHT the militants OF BOTH SUNNI OR SHIA, we need to treat them like lepers.
There is little denying that ISIS was nurtured in Syria by the US. I believe the US knew who it was supporting even though they might claim there were many groups.
So, whether Rand Paul is liked or not liked has no bearing on what has been happening behind the scenes.
And now we are fighting those we formerly supported, and the likelihood of Obama’s 300 advisors facing ISIL armed with US provided weapons is very real.
Could we declare him unfit for office?
Isn’t that “Chemical Alley” (Ali)?
I remember that when the Egyptian military overthrew the Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood that Obama sent McCain and Graham to Cairo to threaten the Egyptians.
Our foreign policy is a complete disaster right now
I remember crossing off the deck of cards back in 2003... they never got that guy. I figured he’d been evaporated in a bomb strike of something.
I read someplace that twice there were claims he’d been killed. Apparently not.
A red headed dude that everyone’s looking for and re-emerges after 11 years. He’s got some mojo.
His presence explains why Sunnis in Mosul/Tikrit were just giving up. They want al-Douri to win. They hate Shi’ite Maliki. I read yesterday that intel services are saying he even took a PR tour through the area before the invasion and renewed old relationships.
No doubt the Saudis want us to
And when they say jump, the US Government says “how high?”
The Saudis were supporting the terrorists in Syria, too. Now we understand that al-Douri and his crew were battling the Talifani terrorists from Syria....al Nusra and the like, I think. I believe Syria is on their side...that would be the al Qaeda wannabe side. Apparently, the al quada side is acting publicly like it doesn’t like the Iraqi side.
And it could all be propaganda. What we do know is Obama has been arming terrorists in Syria and now he’s fighting some of those same terrorists in Iraq. It’s all insane.
Paul is terrible on immigration but first we have to worry about defeating amnesty until 2017.
I dont see how a divided GOP suddenly bends over and lets Rand get his way on everything.
If they don’t get amnesty by 2017 and somehow Rand gets elected, I think the donors may spend 4 years trying to hammer Paul on immigration if that is a way to get him out of office.
The establishment still doesn’t want Rand. They want Walker or Jindal or Jeb or Christie.
A lot of hawkish Congress members are law and order types on immigration like Steve King and Mike Rogers. They didn’t buy Jeff Flake’s amnesty bill. McCain, Graham, Kinzinger and Peter King are the main crossovers for amnesty and war.
Rep. Mike Rogers on the role of amnesty in Cantor’s defeat: “If GOP doesn’t take a lesson, I worry about the future of our party.”
Kinzinger is Top Gun.
My favorites: Cruz, Palin
Next tier, fully acceptable: Perry, Lee, Jeff Sessions, Martinez*
Not acceptable: Christie, Bush, Romney, Paul
Still Studying: Walker, Kasich, Jindal,
I will not support anyone who is not provably pro-life.
I will not support anyone who offers any immigration plan other than total control of borders (fence), coasts, harbors, airports, visas.
The tin foil is strong in me at the moment: What if Obama wants a jihadist take over of Iraq to make Bush and Republicans who argue for a strong defense look bad?
Next election: “Do you really want to vote for a Republican who will continue to send troop around the world on no win missions like Iraq? Vote for the peace loving Dems like Elizabeth here.”
Paul is right. Why spin it?
I don’t want to be engaged in wars when reprisals would be more effective.
That said, I don’t want enemies to gain any opportunity to attack the US. Obama has made it hard for democrats to argue that they are better on defense.
Barry's policy is to establish a Sunni jihadist state somewhere in the ME.
He failed in Egypt, but not for want of trying.
He seems to by failing in Syria.
He's succeeded to a degree in Libya, but the situation is fluid and chaotic.
And he's brought Hamas into a “coalition” government in Palestine.
But his big prize is Iraq.
He really really wants to stick it to Bush and America.
And an ISIS state is just the ticket.
I think the only ones who could win the nomination are Cruz, Pat McCrory and Allen West.
McCrory is going to have to admit he is wrong on Tillis when Tillis loses.
The day Barry kissed the ring finger of the fellow Saudi king a Sunni told us who was in control now folks .
We are in deep trouble now.
Barry is a Sunni Kenyan and adopted in Indonesia by another Sunni .
He bow and kissed the Saudi King ring finger said it all to the Arab world.
Watching this Muslim plant let Iraqi fall into hell on purpose is frightening and releasing Five of the most 9-11 leaders for a well known deserter and corroborator just confirms what these traitor's are up to.
We have the enemies of the US in the WH.
either Bush lost the Iraq before ISIS was armed so arming them is irrelevant..
Or arming then is the factor losing Iraq and Bush did not arm them..
All wars have an "enemy" your fighting..'..
The question is..is ISIS a new enemy create by Bush?..(or just the latest version of an old pre Bush one..)
But useful Idiots arm their enemy'
You want to say Bush created ISIS?.....fine..that a fair debate
But he didn't arm them ..that was the current useful idiot of Islam in office of POTUS