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Rand Paul: "The War On Drugs Has Had A Racial Outcome"
realclearpolitics.com ^ | June 23, 2014

Posted on 06/23/2014 7:23:32 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

"Three out of four people in prison are black or brown for nonviolent drug use. However, when you do surveys, white kids are doing drugs at an equal rate, and they are a much bigger part of the population. So, why are the prisons full of black and brown kids? It is easier to arrest them. It is easier to convict them. They don't get as good of attorneys. And, frankly, they live in the city in a much more collected fashion than in the suburbs, and so the police are patrolling the city more. But it is unfair. The war on drugs has had a racial outcome, unintentionally, but it has a racial outcome. And I want to try to fix it."

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KEYWORDS: drugs; drugwar; prison; randpaul; wod
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1 posted on 06/23/2014 7:23:32 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Simple. Don’t do drugs.


2 posted on 06/23/2014 7:24:23 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Eh…..I’m getting worried.

I have a bad feeling.


3 posted on 06/23/2014 7:24:31 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Tailgunner Joe

This guy has verbal diarrhea lately. He’s angling for a presidential run. And he doesn’t have it.


4 posted on 06/23/2014 7:25:27 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
sounds like the fool is ON drugs...
5 posted on 06/23/2014 7:26:00 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The War on Crime has had a racial outcome. What’s your point?


6 posted on 06/23/2014 7:27:11 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Tailgunner Joe
And, frankly, they live in the city in a much more collected fashion than in the suburbs, and so the police are patrolling the city more.

Or, possibly the cops are patrolling the cities more because that's where more crimes are committed.

7 posted on 06/23/2014 7:27:13 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Throw all conservatives under the bus in hopes that blacks will make up the difference by suddenly voting for the “Republican”.

Good luck with that.


8 posted on 06/23/2014 7:27:15 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Can someone shut this a-hole Rand Paul up? He ain’t no republican and he sure ain’t no conservative whatever he is.


9 posted on 06/23/2014 7:28:06 PM PDT by ReaganÜberAlles (Remember, you can't spell "progressive" without "SS".)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

This guy sounds like a teenage girl lately.....he can’t keep his mouth shut.


10 posted on 06/23/2014 7:28:40 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Non-violent means they were selling.


11 posted on 06/23/2014 7:28:44 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

They said his dad was crazy, but in fact I liked his dad, and I like him, now, too.
But now finally I’m convinced the son is not so much like the dad.

This sounds very much like the start of the process of, “growing in office”.

He has detected Media Approval of certain things, and now he is playing to those things.

He appears to be acquiring a taste for the seductive Media Crack-pipe. This is the start of a Bad Trend.


12 posted on 06/23/2014 7:28:52 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

He’s going to run and split the republican vote.


13 posted on 06/23/2014 7:29:26 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

In cities, wouldn’t most of the prosecutors be Democrats? Wouldn’t it be smart to ask that question?


14 posted on 06/23/2014 7:29:35 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: gusopol3

Libertarians and Democrats are a match made in heaven


15 posted on 06/23/2014 7:30:35 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The war on drugs is a failure, but Paul is a foreign policy ignoramus.


16 posted on 06/23/2014 7:30:35 PM PDT by ZULU (Impeach Obama NOW.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Any day now he goes back on wanting to audit the Fed. A very fast and very complete sell-out.


17 posted on 06/23/2014 7:30:46 PM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: ClearCase_guy; Tailgunner Joe; GeronL

18 posted on 06/23/2014 7:32:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Reddy

I agree.

From what he’s saying it sounds like he’s going to act as a latter-day Ross Perot, with the effect that at the last microsecond it will flip to Hillaghazi.


19 posted on 06/23/2014 7:32:43 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gusopol3

Could be a Cloward-Piven variant to put young black men in jail to ruin their later employability. Then they’d have to stay dependent and vote Democrat, burdening the system to the breaking point.


20 posted on 06/23/2014 7:32:49 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Chode

Rand Paul is aspiring to be a nit wit.
Even my college age sons friends are “so over” Rand Paul.
They all thought he was awesome a few months ago.


21 posted on 06/23/2014 7:32:59 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: Tailgunner Joe

They control the market. Small wonder they are arrested more.


22 posted on 06/23/2014 7:33:05 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Tailgunner Joe

They control the market. Small wonder they are arrested more.


23 posted on 06/23/2014 7:33:05 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Tailgunner Joe

And, frankly, they live in the city in a much more collected fashion than in the suburbs, and so the police are patrolling the city more. But it is unfair.


Where they live is their choice. Life isn’t fair. You use drugs and are stupid enough to do it in a area the police are patrolling then that makes you the idiot.

So glad Paul is outing himself now and not after a presidential primary win.


24 posted on 06/23/2014 7:33:20 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: Tailgunner Joe
They don't get as good of attorneys.

this ass is supposed to be highly educated ? did he skip all his English classes or possibly didn't take any ?

rand paul wants to be president ? president of what ?

25 posted on 06/23/2014 7:33:43 PM PDT by kingattax (a real American would rather die on his feet than live on his knees.)
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To: SkyDancer

sellers are often well armed


26 posted on 06/23/2014 7:34:06 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

What party is Rand Paul again? He sounds a lot like Jerry Brown these days.


27 posted on 06/23/2014 7:34:24 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Rand Paul is NOTHING more than an ambitious FOOL!


28 posted on 06/23/2014 7:34:36 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: gaijin
Eh…..I’m getting worried. I have a bad feeling.

Politics. He's working on getting minority votes.

29 posted on 06/23/2014 7:34:37 PM PDT by BAW (Remind me what Richard Nixon did that was so bad he had to resign as president.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“So, why are the prisons full of black and brown kids?”

Outstanding question! Maybe they are doing other stuff, and the drug charges are on top of them! Rape, murder, theft, every single other crime you can name! Maybe, just maybe, that has something to do with it. Do these people live in the real world? Spend some time in the courthouses and emergency rooms. Hell, just walk around for a little while, though I strongly recommend you go armed. There are no secrets, except the ones you choose to keep from yourself.


30 posted on 06/23/2014 7:35:07 PM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: BAW

Rand Paul is proving him self to be a lesser person than many thought. He’s a tool.


31 posted on 06/23/2014 7:35:55 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Tailgunner Joe; GOPsterinMA; Impy; NFHale; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy

Martin O Malley (Maryland) gave felons back the vote, Rand, and they vote Dem.

DUHHH!

Not impressed with it coming from you.


32 posted on 06/23/2014 7:36:09 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: Tailgunner Joe
It takes drug users time to end up in prison. The black population has a longer history of large scale drug use.

The percentages will begin to even out given the current trends. It's not a racial thing, it's a rate of social decay thing.

33 posted on 06/23/2014 7:36:13 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: acapesket
then there's hope yet...
34 posted on 06/23/2014 7:36:33 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Drug dealing - non-violent drug use
Drug using - non-violent drug use

Doesn’t take a mental giant to know which one is going to get prison time. Rand is lacking.


35 posted on 06/23/2014 7:37:29 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Melowese Richardson - Democrat Vote Fraud Expert)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Rand Paul needs to STFU, everyday and everyday he sounds like a lib...toast


36 posted on 06/23/2014 7:37:43 PM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: cdcdawg

bump


37 posted on 06/23/2014 7:39:32 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

What he “has” is just rewarmed codswallop from his KOOK of a father! That didn’t ‘help”his KOOK of a father any and it SHALL doom Rand !


38 posted on 06/23/2014 7:41:06 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: cdcdawg
Paul completely ignores secondary factors such as gang violence, other criminal activity, and generational poverty (created by leftist policies) that explains the reason why blacks and browns are incarcerated more than whites.
39 posted on 06/23/2014 7:41:26 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Race, Race, Race, Race, Race, Race, Race, Race, Race, Race, Race, Race, Race, Race, Race, Race, Race, Race, Race, Race, Race, Race, Race, Race

Is there any topic or social ill at all that doesn’t end up being a lecture on either racism or white privlege?

Is there any reasonable person who isn’t far past the point of taking discussions about racism seriously?


40 posted on 06/23/2014 7:41:34 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The Obamas' Black skin has morphed into Teflon thanks to the Obama Media)
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To: oldbrowser

We have about as many white meth-heads here as we do black crack user/dealers.

The white meth heads get the same amount of time in the pen for making it as as the blacks get for the the drugs.

but with the blacks, there are always, always a ton of priors, and usually include gun crimes


41 posted on 06/23/2014 7:41:54 PM PDT by digger48
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To: GeronL

They ALWAYS have been!


42 posted on 06/23/2014 7:43:08 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Tailgunner Joe
As one with radical libertarian views toward legalizing drugs, I nevertheless feel constrained to point out that it is fallacious to say that it is wrong to arrest some people for using drugs because we do not arrest other people for using drugs. We do not excuse speeders because other cars are also driven over the limit. Nor do we say that it is wrong to cite Black speeders because we do not cite white speeders proportionately.

Having said that, it is not inappropriate to note that yet another unanticipated consequence of the war on drugs has been uneven enforcement among the races. While that is not a reason to fail to enforce the law, it may be a reason to repeal the law. One wrong does not justify another, but invidious enforcement between races might not be a desirable social outcome.

Back in the 60s the black community in Philadelphia was complaining because the police were arresting row house occupants for drinking on their front stoops while letting white suburbanites drink freely in their backyard grill parties. There was a time when both might be hassled by the police for breaking prohibition.


43 posted on 06/23/2014 7:45:09 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: BAW

Which he won’t get!


44 posted on 06/23/2014 7:45:15 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Jim Robinson
Also simple: don't do sex outside of marriage that creates fatherless, directionless offspring looking for an escape.

The current issue of Imprimis, published by Hillsdale College, has an excellent article titled "The Worldview that Makes the Underclass" available online at http://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/current

45 posted on 06/23/2014 7:46:17 PM PDT by jimbug
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To: jimbug

but the libertarian Democrats won’t accept that either


46 posted on 06/23/2014 7:47:18 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Keep on digging that hole...


47 posted on 06/23/2014 7:47:51 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: Jim Robinson

Pretty funny coming from a guy whose known more Nazis than a Munich beer hall and more neo-Confederates than an SCV convention.


48 posted on 06/23/2014 7:48:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Hmmm, Rand Paul makes a pretty fair living from medicine and politics. Colorado legalized pot. Shouldn’t the incarceration rate even out now? Since more drug busts are for pot, and drug busts are the purported reason for the disparity in the prison population, I would think that Senator Paul would be willing to bet good money against little, ole cdcdawg (a descendent of traffickers in contraband) that the incarceration rate will even out in that state. I would be willing to go even further, and bet that it widens. Drug possession and dealing is among the few things they ever get white perps on. Again, spend a few days at the courthouse, Rand.


49 posted on 06/23/2014 7:48:55 PM PDT by cdcdawg
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I think they go after white kids plenty....I suspect that the white "kids" are not as violent and don't have the history some of the convicted blacks do....

however, if someone wanted to destroy the black population they found an easy way to do it thru abortion,drugs,welfare,fatherless homes, etc...

someone might suspect it was intentional.

50 posted on 06/23/2014 7:48:57 PM PDT by cherry
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