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Britannia rules the waves: Inside brand new aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth
The Daily Mail ^ | 19 June 2014 | GAVIN MADELEY

Posted on 06/23/2014 9:44:52 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

Britannia rules the waves: Inside brand new aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth that boasts 33-ton propellers twice the size of a double decker bus and a four acre deck

HMS Queen Elizabeth is Britain's biggest engineering project

Two 33-ton propellers are twice the height of a double decker bus

The carrier will finally take to the water next month when the Queen visits

Standing on the bridge of the mighty HMS Queen Elizabeth, it is the sheer scale of the largest warship in Royal Navy history that hits you. This hi-tech batcave commands a view that runs for miles from Rosyth, Fife, beyond the seemingly endless flight deck of our newest aircraft carrier and taking in the Forth Bridges and a hazy Edinburgh city centre to the east to the Grangemouth refinery and the Ochils in the west.

And yet, given that this is Britain’s biggest engineering project, one has to fight hard not to laugh out loud at the comical size of the ship’s tiny steering wheel.

It is odd to think that this plastic control, that could easily have come from a service-station arcade game, will one day steer a ship powered by two 33-ton propellers, each almost twice the height of a double decker bus. It is the only small thing about the first of the two new QE Class carriers to come on stream.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: aircraftcarrier; hmsqueenelizabeth; royalnavy

Queen-size: Size of the new Queen Elizabeth Class aircraft carrier if it was on the River Thames

1 posted on 06/23/2014 9:44:52 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
The price of the carriers has soared to £5.3billion – nearly £2billion over-budget – and next year’s Strategic Defence Review will decide whether we keep both or sell the Prince of Wales to recoup some of the costs.

You think HRH could really fetch such a sum? < /s >

2 posted on 06/23/2014 9:51:00 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: sukhoi-30mki

How did they get it under the Bridge?

Must be a Submarine that looks like an Aircraft Carrier.
Q must have designed it.


3 posted on 06/23/2014 9:58:32 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Proud Antiobamunist since 2008...)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
This is a fleet carrier with Tier 1 capability, America style.

Rule Brittania, Brittania rules the waves.

4 posted on 06/23/2014 9:58:55 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: sukhoi-30mki

This may help them beat Argentina again, should it come to that.


5 posted on 06/23/2014 10:01:01 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Sorry but these big carriers are anachronistic. All it would take is one stealth shore to ship , air to ship or ship to ship missile and that would be the end of it. Stealth technology applied to drones and missiles makes these big capital ships almost indefensible.


6 posted on 06/23/2014 10:01:27 PM PDT by allendale
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To: Jack Hammer

This carrier means the end of Argentina running their lips about The Falklands.


7 posted on 06/23/2014 10:03:16 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: allendale

You could be right about that, their time might be up. I could only imagine stealthy space planes that come down from orbit to attack and return the same way.


8 posted on 06/23/2014 10:03:33 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: allendale

And one left-footed effort from Messi, and the Argentine (as the late Baroness Thatcher was wont to call them) are through to the round of 16.


9 posted on 06/23/2014 10:05:54 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: allendale
"Stealth technology applied to drones and missiles makes these big capital ships almost indefensible. "

Nonsense.

These big ships can stay in combat after multiple hits by conventional missiles. They are the most protected of capital assets.

And, they exact retribution.

Why do you think all real Navies seek such capability? Because without them you cannot project power.

10 posted on 06/23/2014 10:25:12 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

ping


11 posted on 06/23/2014 10:30:23 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Heh heh heh... it’s cute.


12 posted on 06/23/2014 10:37:37 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: allendale
What if all future wars were just swarms of stealthy drones on land, in the water, and in the air shooting at each other until there's just one "last drone standing"?

The thought of such a chaotic and unheroic sight might finally lead to the end of war.

13 posted on 06/23/2014 10:45:41 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: allendale

Carriers are about the Projection of Force in the modern era. Which is why most of the major nations on the planet, from Russia and China to India, are building new carriers, after two decades of decline.

Even Australia and Japan have recently commissioned new Carriers.

If the projection of Military Force is, as Machiavelli described it, just an extension of Diplomacy, these nations are taking steps to increase their influence in the world. (especially as our own declines)

Nothing says “Pay attention to our interests” like a few dozen fighter-bombers off your coast.


14 posted on 06/23/2014 11:09:37 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

“What if all future wars were just swarms of stealthy drones on land, in the water, and in the air shooting at each other until there’s just one “last drone standing”?”

Not going to happen...
Drones have two huge drawbacks, The link between the drone and the operator, and the drone itself. Both can be interrupted by technical means, such as jamming or EMP.

The human factor in warfare simply cannot be replaced by technology.


15 posted on 06/23/2014 11:17:03 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Is it made of aluminum, like their ship that burnt to a crisp fighting the Argentinas.


16 posted on 06/24/2014 2:51:48 AM PDT by BobL
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To: The KG9 Kid

Only ten more and they will be equal to us


17 posted on 06/24/2014 3:12:34 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Kickass Conservative

LOL, thanks!


18 posted on 06/24/2014 4:38:50 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: Mariner; GeronL; sukhoi-30mki

Really? Consider this scenario. A satellite locates and tracks a carrier. A submarine 200 miles away launches four very slealthy missiles which themselves each launch a flock of forty “seagulls”. Each “seagull” is an 18 inch stealthy drone packed with one pound of C4 plastique. Monitors track the flocks directly to the carriers like mosquitoes going to a prey. Science fiction? The carrier would survive? That is a very rudimentary basic scenario. Big capital ships are simply not defensible in the 21st century.


19 posted on 06/24/2014 6:13:54 AM PDT by allendale
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To: allendale
Not only would the ship survive, it would be launching aircraft in a couple of hours.

Beside, the weapon you mention doesn't exist.

20 posted on 06/24/2014 9:54:57 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: allendale
You think that someone would design and build a sub-launched strategic naval weapon that delivers forty individual measures of a half kilo of plastic explosive with the intention of sinking an aircraft carrier?

I suspect that you think one pound of RDX plastic explosive does quite a lot more damage than it really does.

In any case, this weapon system of yours would be a sub-launched missile bigger than a Tomahawk that delivers 40 pounds of explosive -- in forty separate packages that somehow all need to be independently controlled to the target by micro helicopters. Even 40 pounds of TNT delivered in a single lump isn't going to knock the license plate off an aircraft carrier.

You're describing a very unlikely weapon to even make it off the drawing board.

21 posted on 06/26/2014 10:22:27 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: The KG9 Kid

Remember given the optics of direct satellite observation, those drones can be directed to almost anywhere on a ship. A fully armed aircraft on the deck of a carrier hit by a drone carrying 300 grams of CD4 would create quite a conflagration. Until you prove that the concept is not feasible, if you are a navy planer, you are better off assuming that such a weapon system can and will be implemented. There are usually over 5,000 sailors on those carriers.


22 posted on 06/26/2014 11:16:49 AM PDT by allendale
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To: allendale
I see, and thought about it before I responded of course, but my point is that you're proposing a multi-billion dollar naval weapons system that would ultimately deliver piddly amounts of explosives in one pound doses via a hobby shop toy.

I can't imagine anyone going for that.

Practically, I think that the damage caused by your imaginary weapons system would be less than randomly attacking the outer surfaces of an aircraft carrier with about a half-dozen common hand grenades; hardly even likely to abrade the paint or knock some rust off. Capital ships take far more structural damage than that on a daily basis just navigating the ocean in the normal course of duty in peacetime.

23 posted on 06/26/2014 11:25:35 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: The KG9 Kid

Not exactly. The ship is smaller than US carriers and its STOVL airwing lacks all sorts of important capabilities, including airborne electronic warfare/recce (EA-18G Growlers) and offensive airborne command and control (E-2 Hawkeyes. The RN’s current Sea King and projected furture Merlin AEW are mainly defensive in nature).

That having been said, the ships are better and more capable than the Invincibles and all the other STOVL/STOBAR carriers, and only slightly less capable than the French Charles deGaulle (when it actually works). They’ll work well operating independently in low to medium threat environments, and in conjunction with US CVNs in high threat ones.


24 posted on 06/26/2014 11:36:20 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: allendale
Perhaps we could run your idea by the ACME® Corporation? ;-)


25 posted on 06/26/2014 11:40:17 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: allendale

They already are. Maneuverable ICSM/SLBM warheads made aircraft carriers obsolete decades ago. The Navy and Air Force simply had the Military Industrial Complex scare everyone into spending ridiculous money on it. Congresscritters of all kinds since 1945 have been on the take and voting for the spending to benefit their States.


26 posted on 06/26/2014 11:40:23 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: The KG9 Kid

LOL. Given the fact that the US Navy currently has two of the big blue water carriers in the narrow shallow waters of the heavily fortified Persian Gulf , for the sake of the 8-10,000 brave young American sailors on those ships, certainly hope you are correct about the amount of punishment those ships can absorb.


27 posted on 06/26/2014 12:06:36 PM PDT by allendale
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