Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

'We have a problem with you, and you have a problem maintaining your credibility': House Republicans
Daily Mail ^ | 6/23/14 | David Martosko, U.s. Political Editor

Posted on 06/23/2014 10:29:08 PM PDT by Nachum

Republicans dropped a hammer on IRS Commissioner John Koskinen during a testy hearing covering the disappearance of emails tied to the agency's tea party targeting scandal.

The emails, covering the period January 2009 to April 2011, belonged to embattled former official Lois Lerner and could shed light on whether an expansive scheme to single out conservative groups for special scrutiny was guided by members of Congress or administration officials outside the IRS.

'The committee requested all of Lois Lerner’s emails over a year ago,' said House Oversight Committee Chairman Rep. Darrell Issa. 'And we subpoenaed the emails in August 2013 and again in February 2014. ... You worked to cover up the fact they were missing and only came forward to fess up on a Friday afternoon after you had been caught red-handed.'

'You personally did not cause the targeting,' he told Koskinen, referring to the tea party scandal. 'You personally did not destroy the emails. But by your actions and your deception, you now own this scandal.'

'We have a problem with you,' Issa sniped at the front end of a three-hour, 36-minute ordeal, 'and you have a problem maintaining your credibility.'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: commissioner; irs; lerner; problem
'We have a problem with you, and you have a problem maintaining your credibility': House Republicans slam IRS commissioner as they subpoena a White House lawyer in 'missing emails' case

vid at link

1 posted on 06/23/2014 10:29:08 PM PDT by Nachum
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


2 posted on 06/23/2014 10:29:30 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Nachum

Dear Spineless Issa.......OBAMA OWNS THIS SCANDAL!! HE and his people ORCHESTRATED this!!


3 posted on 06/23/2014 10:33:01 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Nachum

Bump


4 posted on 06/23/2014 10:33:25 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Nachum
REPUBLICAN HAMMER :


5 posted on 06/23/2014 10:37:29 PM PDT by Right Brother
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ann Archy

Issa and Chaffetz the big talking open borders RINOs.


6 posted on 06/23/2014 10:50:16 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Nachum
'All the emails that we have will be provided,' he said moments later. 'I did not say I would provide you emails that disappeared.'

That's an interesting choice of words. "Disappeared." I thought they had been lost.

7 posted on 06/23/2014 11:07:40 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Nachum

They need to start jailing people for contempt of congress and threatening them with 10 year prison terms. Lerner and other underlings will sing like a canaries once she sees they’re serious.


8 posted on 06/23/2014 11:13:11 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Nachum

Yawn - wake me when Issa takes any REAL ACTION instead of the audio dog-and-pony show.


9 posted on 06/23/2014 11:19:51 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: F15Eagle

Nothing ever happens from these hearings


10 posted on 06/23/2014 11:24:22 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: GeronL

Nope.

But lots of tough talk and stern looks.

What a joke.


11 posted on 06/23/2014 11:25:21 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: F15Eagle

stern looks

that’ll learn’em


12 posted on 06/23/2014 11:31:30 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: GeronL

Issa could issue hashtags next!!

C’mon Issa, let’s see you prove us wrong.

Take action - FOR ONCE.

(not holding my breath)


13 posted on 06/23/2014 11:32:24 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: F15Eagle

bump


14 posted on 06/23/2014 11:33:46 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: F15Eagle

Could somebody tell us please, what the prime investigator of the House that has all of a marshmallow axe at his disposal, is supposed to DO.

I guess he could wildly swing the marshmallow axe, but that would make him look rather silly.

There isn’t any sanction the House can attempt to initiate that won’t get instantly undermined by this perfidious executive that America has now (and wouldn’t have if even Mitt Romney or John McCain had been made president).


15 posted on 06/23/2014 11:37:08 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: F15Eagle

The joke is the Freepers on this board who badmouth any politician who is making some headway on any issue......

Maybe Issa won’t get anywhere but he is trying and has been for months

The headwind on this investigation has been the Media’s lack of coverage

Today you got the Washington Post jumping on board...It doesn’t mean its a sure thing by any means but These Guys are moving forward.....so why bash them ?

Oh I forgot..... thats what the brave Freepers among us do.


16 posted on 06/23/2014 11:40:07 PM PDT by woofie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: woofie

Ah shuddup. You make too much sense.


17 posted on 06/23/2014 11:51:01 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: woofie

As an American Citizen, I feels the enormous contempt that is being delivered and allowed in these hearings and it make me sick to acknowledge in my heart that we truly have vast taxation with no representation.


18 posted on 06/23/2014 11:54:00 PM PDT by Theophilus (Be as prolific as you are pro-life.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Theophilus

People need to vote for God in their own heart.

And, pray.
And, worship.

Yes, and vote in earthly elections too. However the attitude of America towards God will have a whole lot of influence over the quality of what is to be FOUND on the ballot to choose from. God will prepare a table in the presence of our enemies, but won’t ever do it against our wills.


19 posted on 06/23/2014 11:57:19 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: woofie

It’s astonishing! These days, you click open any FR thread on any effort to get at the truth of what this Administration is doing, and you’re met almost instantly with posts ripping Issa, Gowdy, the GOP, Paul Ryan, etc., or gloom-and-doom posts urging everyone to just give up. I feel like we’re being overrun by desperate sleeper trolls in a way I’ve never seen before.


20 posted on 06/24/2014 12:57:46 AM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Theophilus
we truly have vast taxation with no representation

Since congress is entirely derived from popular elections, please elaborate on our lack of representation.

21 posted on 06/24/2014 1:35:45 AM PDT by Jacquerie (To restore the 10th Amendment, repeal the 17th. Article V.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: woofie

Hey, don’t complain that your elected representatives don’t do anything.

Just sit back and enjoy the show.

While Obama does whatever he wants.

So, why vote, eh? After all, they can’t do anything so let’s have the show.


22 posted on 06/24/2014 2:13:50 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: GeronL

Guess we shouldn’t expect politicians to actually DO anything.

Just vote them in, pay them and watch the stern lectures.

After all, we’ve already seen nothing from Fast ‘n’ Furious, Benghazi, nor any of the other scandals.

Because we’re the Brave Freepers.

What a pathetic joke - don’t complain when nothing happens, I guess.


23 posted on 06/24/2014 2:22:19 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: JennysCool

To me it is more understandable than ‘astonishing’.

We have traditionally counted on GOP to uphold conservative ideals and the US Constitution.

These days, when there is such obvious and blatant enmity on the part of the Administration, and the IRS in particular, for Republicans and conservatives and the GOP leadership does nothing, what would you expect as a reaction here?

All of this is borne out of utter frustration of conservatives in seeing pathetic pandering by GOPe leadership to that mythical elusive Hispanic vote via Amnesty, complete disregard for fiscal sanity, and a complete lack of substantive actions in response to the whole doggone government gone rogue. They are doing absolutely NOTHING about it. To the contrary, their only actions to date have been to belittle, demean and destroy any voter sentiment remotely connected to grass roots Tea Party activities.

Had I been a Senator on that panel and when that IRS Koskinen said the “IRS has nothing to apologize for” I’d have jumped up on the table and screamed at the top of my lungs the same words Crazy Eyes in “Orange is the New Black” did in Season One in the prison mess hall.


24 posted on 06/24/2014 3:06:16 AM PDT by Gaffer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Right Brother

You sure it’s that big?


25 posted on 06/24/2014 3:08:29 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: JennysCool

Agreed


26 posted on 06/24/2014 3:16:17 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Gaffer

In case anyone is wondering. This is what I was talking about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sess-qYPxRY


27 posted on 06/24/2014 3:22:17 AM PDT by Gaffer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Nachum

You are not going to get anywhere near the truth until you frog march them to jail. When one has no fear of breaking the law, the law will be broken.


28 posted on 06/24/2014 3:26:09 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NTHockey

Oh, now you’ve done it. Suggesting action instead of words.

Prepare to be attacked on this thread.


29 posted on 06/24/2014 3:27:56 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Right Brother
REPUBLICAN HAMMER :

I am so cynical. Mark Levin has been on a screed ( and forgive me if I cannot explain the legal methodology correctly ) that they have been doing it all wrong, no special counsel, subpoena's, and securing off all the hardware and software for evidence etc.

My poor legal translation aside, I do feel they are using this as a political tool leading up to Nov. 14' whilst we do not know if any on our side agree with what the IRS did, or sent letters along with Karl Lenin I mean Levin. Yes I distrust the Graham's and McCain's that much.

They are all power hungry, they would use this tool against their adversary's should they get in power, vs. shutting it all down and going with a Flat or Fair Tax.

30 posted on 06/24/2014 3:35:05 AM PDT by taildragger (Not my Circus, Not my Monkey ( Boy does that apply to DC...))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Jacquerie
Imagine a zoo where he predators are allowed to roam free and the so-called zookeepers merely shout their indignation while the patrons and other docile animals are targeted and devoured. Is it really a zoo or is it the Coliseum?

The IRS is mocking our impotent and abject Congress to scorn and not a penny will be withrawn from them. No one will be placed in handcuffs. No one will be impeached. We must all eat the cake of their tyranny.

31 posted on 06/24/2014 3:59:51 AM PDT by Theophilus (Be as prolific as you are pro-life.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: Theophilus

Seems this ‘investigation” will never get to the end and no one will be charged with any crimes. They way this have been going, it’s almost like a lifelong, career path.

Will someone, anyone please get this thing done with.


32 posted on 06/24/2014 4:07:22 AM PDT by DaveA37
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: woofie

You do know that the National Republicans have declared war on Conservatives in general, and the TEA Party movement in particular, right?


33 posted on 06/24/2014 4:31:54 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Theophilus
There's no need to imagine a zoo.

The fact is congress has unconstitutionally assigned much of its Article I Section 1 powers to the executive branch.

Congress’ constitutional powers remain on paper, but the passing of time has eroded the institutional will to assert its authority.

34 posted on 06/24/2014 4:34:19 AM PDT by Jacquerie (To restore the 10th Amendment, repeal the 17th. Article V.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Timber Rattler

Perhaps the GOPe sees themselves threatened by the Tea Party and they aren’t exactly in a hurry to stop that.

Oh, I’m too cynical.


35 posted on 06/24/2014 4:36:46 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: Jim Robinson

Do you know how contempt of Congress works? Do they send the Sergeant at Arms to arrest people?


36 posted on 06/24/2014 5:11:01 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Jim Robinson

~~~They need to start jailing people for contempt of congress and threatening them with 10 year prison terms.~~~

Absolutely. That’s pretty much what I was suggesting up-thread. Enough talk.


37 posted on 06/24/2014 5:14:04 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Jim Robinson

BUMP!

__________

Issa is a typical RINO Chairman: Lots of sharp rhetoric, but NO PUNISHMENT!


38 posted on 06/24/2014 6:23:33 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Jacquerie

Amen, it’s a pure abdication of all responsibilities, all around. Now bureaucrats openly flaunt even the subpoena while Members think they score political points with their indignation theater. So-what if Issa is “losing patience”? What then? Where’s the boom? When does it actually get lowered?


39 posted on 06/24/2014 6:42:05 AM PDT by Theophilus (Be as prolific as you are pro-life.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: JennysCool
It’s astonishing! These days, you click open any FR thread on any effort to get at the truth of what this Administration is doing, and you’re met almost instantly with posts ripping Issa, Gowdy, the GOP, Paul Ryan, etc., or gloom-and-doom posts urging everyone to just give up. I feel like we’re being overrun by desperate sleeper trolls in a way I’ve never seen before.

Because we are tired of detesticled sycophants pretending to be the opposition.

They are on the same team, simply punting the ball down the road while the nation dies in agonizing idiocy.

Looters.
40 posted on 06/24/2014 7:05:39 AM PDT by Robert Teesdale
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: F15Eagle

>>Oh, now you’ve done it. Suggesting action instead of words.

Prepare to be attacked on this thread.<<

I hope that was sarcasm. Otherwise, not only will nothing get done, but it will get worse.


41 posted on 06/24/2014 9:02:39 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: woofie

>>The joke is the Freepers on this board who badmouth any politician who is making some headway on any issue......

Maybe Issa won’t get anywhere but he is trying and has been for months.<<

Check the date on this post. My disgust with Issa is not new.

There’s not a chance in Hell that this is going anywhere. These people who have been elected to office so many times that they have become personal friends with the progressive communists on the other side of the aisle. They don’t want to cause a fuss that would cause some democrat not to be reelected because then they would have to go through a decade of training the newcomer in just how things DO NOT get done in Congress or the Congressional Committees.

it’s nice to think that they have integrity but those days are gone for good and the resulting collusion is bad.

13 posted on Thursday, May 26, 2011 10:24:30 AM by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)


42 posted on 06/24/2014 9:46:15 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: F15Eagle

I don’t expect that this one will be any different from the last one hundred scandal hearings


43 posted on 06/24/2014 11:44:57 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: NTHockey

Yeah. Of course it’s going to get worse.


44 posted on 06/24/2014 8:12:02 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: GeronL

I am afraid that will probably prove to be accurate.


45 posted on 06/24/2014 8:12:27 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson