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Archivist: IRS didn't follow law re lost emails
AP via Yahoo News ^ | 6/24/14 | Eileen Sullivan

Posted on 06/24/2014 9:45:59 AM PDT by Kartographer

The nation's top archivist says the Internal Revenue Service did not follow the law when it failed to report the loss of records belonging to a senior IRS executive.

David Ferriero says federal law requires that government agencies must notify the National Archives and Records Administration when it becomes aware that federal records are lost.

(Excerpt) Read more at finance.yahoo.com ...


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IRS Commissioner John Koskinen said that he has seen no evidence anyone committed a crime when the agency lost emails. I wonder what he will have to say now??
1 posted on 06/24/2014 9:45:59 AM PDT by Kartographer
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To: Kartographer

I fear they will suddenly “Find” the lost E-mails only after they have “sanitized them”......


2 posted on 06/24/2014 9:50:12 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Kartographer
We need more laws.

We need more funding.

We need more Ammunition.

We need more surveilence.

We need more hope-n-change.

The Obama liberal argument to anything limiting the powers of an out of control federal government with it's populace in the crosshairs.

3 posted on 06/24/2014 9:50:21 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Kartographer

4 posted on 06/24/2014 9:51:32 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Kartographer

Tim Walberg done good with that one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=8QtPqYtDjNs&app=desktop


5 posted on 06/24/2014 9:52:18 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: GraceG

It is their illegal, fictitious personae emails they need to look for. Like at the EPA...

The end result of all this will be a bigger budget for the IRS, and better jobs for all involved.


6 posted on 06/24/2014 9:52:28 AM PDT by Geoffrey
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To: Kartographer

Updated:

http://news.yahoo.com/archivist-irs-didnt-law-lost-emails-162346827.html


7 posted on 06/24/2014 9:54:48 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Now that bureaucratic regulations have caught them naked, maybe THEY will be pushing for fewer of them too!

Be funny if the Lord could finesse this into having the IRS support libertarian philosophy. Because the tiger they ride is getting hungry.


8 posted on 06/24/2014 9:55:13 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Its like this.

They didn’t actually break the law, they just didn’t obey it. LOL


9 posted on 06/24/2014 9:57:22 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Not likely. There’s one set of rules for the “elites” and other set of rules for the “rubes”.


10 posted on 06/24/2014 9:59:11 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: Kartographer

Anybody that knows anything about emails knows that this whole “my hard drive crashed” thing is a blatant excuse, at the same level of credibility as “the dog ate my homework” except that we all know that dogs CAN sometimes eat homework...and we also know that there are so many redundant copies of any email that what they are claiming is virtually impossible.

Like claiming that the dog at the homework that was on the laptop.


11 posted on 06/24/2014 9:59:40 AM PDT by GilesB
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Can we at least arrest IRS Commissioner John Koskinen over this?

(I know, I’m dreaming)


12 posted on 06/24/2014 10:00:10 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: GilesB

How about if my dog eats my laptop??


13 posted on 06/24/2014 10:00:45 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: kevkrom

Rubes should rube it in. The liberals scoff outwardly but they know inwardly that America has their number now.


14 posted on 06/24/2014 10:04:22 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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I wonder what he will have to say now??

He'll just say he learned from the best.


15 posted on 06/24/2014 10:05:34 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: GilesB

MOST email systems are based on a central server anyhow. If it is Microsoft Outlook, you can log in from any place and get your messages.

Normally the IRS would have a fierce interest in keeping everything in the event they are hauled into tax court. They can show that they had a “reason” to go after this taxpayer or that one for an alleged tax debt.


16 posted on 06/24/2014 10:07:08 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Kartographer
Wow--just used your link (THANK YOU!) and the comments are really telling! 350 so far, and the first 20+ I took time to read are ALL expressing --to varying degrees--outrage with the IRS's claim they just failed to "follow the law"!

This story has some legs--and hopefully attached to them are some boots big enough to stomp all over the liars and thieves which have in infested the Obamanation!

17 posted on 06/24/2014 10:14:17 AM PDT by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement!)
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To: GraceG

Like Obama’s birth certificate.


18 posted on 06/24/2014 10:15:54 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: demshateGod

19 posted on 06/24/2014 10:16:50 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: GilesB
and we also know that there are so many redundant copies of any email that what they are claiming is virtually impossible.

They are looking for outgoing messages to different agencies. If no one was copied internally, then those types message have a better chance of eventually disappearing.

20 posted on 06/24/2014 10:17:06 AM PDT by EVO X
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To: Kartographer

So they broke the law, what are the repercussions?


21 posted on 06/24/2014 10:18:49 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: GilesB

we had a IT expert on a local radio show. He said he could find them easily and restore them.


22 posted on 06/24/2014 10:20:14 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Geoffrey

I have been thinking the same thing


23 posted on 06/24/2014 10:20:44 AM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (This town needs an enema)
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To: Kartographer

The IRS and its Progressive managers will play for a reduced (and much less interesting) charge of breaking the law on record keeping, as it allows delay, obfuscation and elimination of law-breaking for political reasons.

And they are banking that such a “boring” scandal over bad record-keeping will not have any legs in the public and the Government-controlled media.


24 posted on 06/24/2014 10:23:11 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Kartographer

Did anyone ask the key follow up. Had IRS lost records in past, if yes, how quickly did they notify them.


25 posted on 06/24/2014 10:25:29 AM PDT by shoedog
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To: Kartographer

Gee. I wonder what would happen to my company if I didn’t follow the law regarding emails and the IRS wanted them?

Would they accept an “Awe shucks. My hard drive crashed.”?


26 posted on 06/24/2014 10:28:22 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Kartographer
AP is trying to sugarcoat this thing. The emails weren't just "lost"... they were intentionally DESTROYED.

The crime here isn't merely the failure to report the "accidental loss", and AP knows it.

Targeting political enemies during an election cycle is a HUGE crime. Covering up and destroying evidence is another big crime. Lying about the crime and the coverup is yet another crime.

Team Obama orchestrated the crime of targeting. Team Obama ordered the destruction of evidence. Team Obama is deeply involved in the coverup.

Team Obama is likely committing the same crimes this election cycle. The MSM thinks that the end justifies the means, and will do everything in their power to assist Obama.

27 posted on 06/24/2014 10:30:43 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: cripplecreek

"I didn't lie to you. I was bullshi**ing you."

28 posted on 06/24/2014 10:32:54 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: GraceG

Maybe Judicial Watch can get the ‘lost’ Emails.. They managed to get the smoking gun Benghazi Emails about the video narrative.


29 posted on 06/24/2014 10:39:34 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: GilesB

This entire, “my hard drive crashed” is a bunch of crap. In the last 25 years of computer ownership I can count the number of hard drive crashes on ZERO fingers.


30 posted on 06/24/2014 10:39:45 AM PDT by Cyclone59 (Where are we going, and what's with the handbasket?)
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I have to wonder, if the IRS had not harassed the Tea Party, would the GOP have won Ohio and the Presidency? My guess is No. Is anyone investigating the precinct leadership in the counties with suspect voter turnout anymore? I would think some basic statistical analysis would draw attention to details the Main Stream Media missed. We’ve got to punch Obama while he is down with even more revelations of his dirty work - and not focus on any one thing. Keep the hits coming!


31 posted on 06/24/2014 10:40:55 AM PDT by Citizen Zed ("Freedom costs a buck o five" - Gary Johnston, TAWP)
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Gee shucks.... sorry about losing them.


32 posted on 06/24/2014 10:41:44 AM PDT by ncfool (Hilary 2016 Procol Harum or Boko Haram. What difference does it make?)
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"Listen, I grew up in a bar, this doesn't pass the straight face test," Boehner, of Ohio, said

He grew up in a bar?! What is he talking about?

33 posted on 06/24/2014 10:43:29 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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The bogus premise the e-mail was lost continues.


34 posted on 06/24/2014 10:44:32 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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"Yup, looks like we didn't follow the law. Oh, well."

I wouldn't try that in traffic court.

35 posted on 06/24/2014 10:46:01 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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If you want to improve the IRS firing about 1/3 of them would motivate the remainder to do their jobs more efficiently and within the law. If you just cut the agency by 1/3 you don’t need to waste money on any investigation. Also the congress should put into law that they cannot be rehired by any federal entity for 10 years.


36 posted on 06/24/2014 11:34:22 AM PDT by WMarshal (Free citizen, never a subject or a civilian)
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To: milagro
.Wow--just used your link (THANK YOU!) and the comments are really telling! 350 so far, and the first 20+ I took time to read are ALL expressing --to varying degrees--outrage with the IRS's claim they just failed to "follow the law"! This story has some legs--and hopefully attached to them are some boots big enough to stomp all over the liars and thieves which have in infested the Obamanation!

It's up over 3,600+ comments now, you are correct, this has pissed off a lot of Americans.

CGato

37 posted on 06/24/2014 12:17:56 PM PDT by Conservative Gato
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That email is backed up from a network drive every night, with a copy on the hard drive. It’s a .PST File. If servers were upgraded, the file along with the PST files of everyone in that group would have been backed up and then restored onto the new server. Since that server, especially in this day and age would have been replicating to another server there is another copy.

So, if the local drive crashes, the .PST file would be restored. If it wasn’t on the server, it would be on the replicated server.

A worst, the drives (probably H) would be backed up nightly to tape with a certain retention period before it is recycled.

In other words, I am calling BS on the IRS.

One last question. They keep mentioning 6 additional people lost files. Did their local drives also crash? The odds of that are, let’s just say Dell SAS drives have an MBTF meantime before failure at 1.6m hours. Unless there was a bad batch and coincidentally the 6 people impacted are all involved in this scandal had their drives all fail at the same time, it is nearly impossible for this to happen.

My advice? Every month, bring this up. Have a press conference with a reminder on how corrupt the Obama government is. Keep committees quiet, with just enough info going out to keep Fox News sated.

Win control of the Congress and Senate and on January 20 2014’ start the removal process for Obama, Holder, and the entire lot of them. Take Sunsteen and the other 31 Marxist Czars and have them arrested for sedition.

This way no one can say its racist.


38 posted on 06/24/2014 12:23:40 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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To: Kartographer

Charge them all with felony obstruction of justice.


39 posted on 06/24/2014 12:35:13 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (liberalism is a cancer that destroys everything it gets control of.)
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This could be the greatest gift Obama has given America since he became the #1 gun salesman in the country.


40 posted on 06/24/2014 1:09:45 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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So they broke the law, what are the repercussions?

And, "What difference, at this point, does it make?

HF

41 posted on 06/24/2014 1:49:42 PM PDT by holden
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Archivist: IRS didn’t follow law re lost emails

Rubbish. The IRS KNEW what the law is. They DELIBERATELY did not follow the law.

We all know the reason why.


42 posted on 06/24/2014 3:08:03 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Another foolish individual who thinks laws apply the federales.


43 posted on 06/24/2014 7:26:38 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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