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Archaeologists dig in for better rates of pay (Them too ??)
Irish Examiner ^ | 6/24/2014 | Noel Baker

Posted on 06/24/2014 9:54:04 AM PDT by llevrok

Archaeologists have formed a trade union grouping amid concerns that some highly qualified people are working for pay rates not much above the minimum wage — or in some cases, for free.

Contract archaeologists, who mostly work in the private sector, have joined trade union Unite in an attempt to convince archaeological consultancies to sign up to a standardised pay agreement that would protect wage levels.

The move comes after what the chairman of the new branch, Matt Seaver, described as “an apocalypse” in the sector. The union grouping comprises approximately 60 contract archaeologists — around half the total number of contract archaeologists working on projects here.

That is down from more than 800 at the height of the boom, with Mr Seaver claiming many archaeologists have “thrown their hat” at the profession or have emigrated.

According to the union, site assistants are typically the people tasked with excavating and recording during digs and some are being paid between €9.50 and €10 an hour, in what the union has termed “poverty pay”.

“There has been such a draining out of archaeologists that very few people are prepared to tough it out,” Mr Seaver said. “In its current form it is unsustainable for a lot of people.” He said the reduction in positions available as well as the tumbling rates of pay had meant many highly qualified archaeologists had moved on to other professions, or had emigrated, with some Irish people working on projects elsewhere such as the Metro in Copenhagen in Denmark.

A report by the Institute of Archaeologists of Ireland published earlier this year claimed there were 82% fewer archaeologists than in 2007 and that low pay and the excess costs incurred by staff in moving to new places of work meant commercial archaeological work was unsustainable.

It also stated that site assistants can typically work less than 20 weeks a year and that less than half of all archaeologists across a number of positions worked most of the year. That report also recommended an agreed system of subsistence rates be implemented for all archaeologists depending on distance from place of work and costs incurred.


TOPICS: Germany; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: denmark; europeanunion; germany; godsgravesglyphs; minimumwage; unitedkingdom
Shades of Gary Larson. Who next? The paleontologists, for Pete's sake!!
1 posted on 06/24/2014 9:54:04 AM PDT by llevrok
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To: llevrok

Indiana Jones is in a Union???

I thought he hated snakes????


2 posted on 06/24/2014 9:55:43 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: llevrok

If an archeologist goes on strike in a forest, does it make a sound?

Does anyone care?


3 posted on 06/24/2014 10:23:12 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: llevrok

Why, just the other day I was working on a project plan and said to myself “dang! This would be so much easier if I had an archaeologist!”


4 posted on 06/24/2014 10:24:13 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (AGW "Scientific method:" Draw your lines first, then plot your points)
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To: SunkenCiv; Revolting cat!
Rate To Dig Rocks Plummets To New Low!
5 posted on 06/24/2014 10:30:09 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: freedumb2003

It’s going to take someone who likes to dig to turn up Lois Lerner’s Lost Emails.


6 posted on 06/24/2014 10:31:03 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: llevrok

Archeologist, “Pay me more or I quit.”

Client, “It can wait.”


7 posted on 06/24/2014 10:32:38 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: llevrok

If they aren’t careful, they will dig themselves a hole they can’t get out of.


8 posted on 06/24/2014 10:33:09 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: llevrok

Aren’t most of these folks from universities, with post-docs and graduate students in the field?


9 posted on 06/24/2014 11:02:43 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: llevrok

I had to laugh at your reply. The year was 1955 and me being 10 years old. I went to the Saturday movie to see, “The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms”. At dinner that night, I told my father, that I now know what I want to be, when I grow up. He stated what? I told him a paleontologist. His reply, “you would be better off with a real job”. I stayed in science, was a chemist for a major chemical company for 31 years.

At almost 69 years young, I’m still into dinosaurs.


10 posted on 06/24/2014 11:13:38 AM PDT by Capt_Hank (btu's...kcal's...to kJ's, but my activation energy is still high.)
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To: Capt_Hank

“The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms”

...is that the one that ate the cop who was shooting at it with his handgun...I always thought ‘what an idiot’ when he stood there reloading after emptying his firearm with no apparent effect...

...but I was only eight or nine when I first saw it on TV, and it was quite disturbing...


11 posted on 06/24/2014 11:22:28 AM PDT by IrishBrigade (')
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To: llevrok

If you want to be an archeologist,it’s helps to be rich,insane or both


12 posted on 06/24/2014 11:23:11 AM PDT by Paddyboy (Roma Omnia Vincit)
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To: All
If there were a big demand for archaeological contractors then employment in the field would be up as well as salaries.

All this tells me is that demand is down and there is an oversupply of contractors from some former "boom" in the archaeological business.

There are huge swaths of the Earth that are no longer hospitable to archaeology. I imagine, for example, there's a lot less digging going on in what used to be Nineveh and is now Mosul. Also, since construction declined after the housing boom, there are probably a lot fewer surprise sites being discovered. Or if there are, the developers are keeping those finds hidden to prevent delays and cost overruns.

13 posted on 06/24/2014 11:28:00 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: llevrok

I will probably never be in a position to hire an archeologist.

I will almost certainly never need the services of a UNION archeologist.


14 posted on 06/24/2014 12:15:43 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: Capt_Hank
At almost 69 years young, I’m still into dinosaurs.

Makes sense. If we hadn't dinosaurs we wouldn't have oil. And if we did not have oil, you probably would have had a less robust career in the chemical industry. So it all worked out as you planned when you were ten !

15 posted on 06/24/2014 12:23:28 PM PDT by llevrok (Straight. Since 1950.)
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To: IrishBrigade

That’s the one.....


16 posted on 06/24/2014 12:38:08 PM PDT by Capt_Hank (btu's...kcal's...to kJ's, but my activation energy is still high.)
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To: llevrok

They earn an income? It was thought they sell the old stuff in order to make one thin dime.


17 posted on 06/24/2014 1:03:15 PM PDT by V K Lee
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To: llevrok

Having formerly been a professional contract archaeologist for over a decade, I can say that here in the US, the people actually doing the physical work (excavations, cataloguing, artifact conservation etc.) get paid very little. They often work in crappy conditions with little or no benefits and tenuous job stability. Many of them are very good workers, educated and dedicated but there are way too any of them for the number of jobs available.

The mid level archaeologists who oversee field work and often write the bulk of archaeological reports get better pay but not by much. They usually have better job security.

The lead archaeologists who sign off on the reports can do pretty well financially.

Of course the top of the chain are those who own the archaeological companies. These often are regular businessmen or engineers. Like in any field the risk takers/owners get the highest pay.


18 posted on 06/24/2014 1:11:00 PM PDT by XRdsRev (New Jersey - Crossroads of the American Revolution)
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To: a fool in paradise

>>It’s going to take someone who likes to dig to turn up Lois Lerner’s Lost Emails.<<

It is going to take Jesus since He is the only one that can raise the dead.


19 posted on 06/24/2014 2:41:05 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (AGW "Scientific method:" Draw your lines first, then plot your points)
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To: llevrok
I loved doing archaeological work. The pay wasn't much but I loved the job.

I love what I do now, too, and the pay is much better.

20 posted on 06/24/2014 4:00:44 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: a fool in paradise; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
Thanks a fool in paradise. Appears to be in the EU.

21 posted on 06/28/2014 10:26:04 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: llevrok

When I was in college, anthropology majors had to PAY to go on digs. So now they demand to be paid? LOL! Perhaps they should have been required to take Economics 101.


22 posted on 06/29/2014 7:56:25 AM PDT by pabianice (LINE)
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