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Militia down chopper near Slavyansk, 9 feared dead military spokesman
Russia Today ^ | 6-24-2001 | RT

Posted on 06/24/2014 2:36:53 PM PDT by tcrlaf

Nine people are feared dead after self-defense forces in the Donetsk region shot down a Ukrainian army helicopter, which was used for transporting military cargo, a Kiev spokesman said.

The Mi-8 helicopter was downed “at about 5 pm local time at Karachun Mountain near Slavyansk by a rocket fired from a portable air defense system,” eastern Ukraine military operation spokesman, Vladislav Seleznyov, wrote on his Facebook page.

“There were nine people aboard the helicopter. According to preliminary information, all those aboard died in the crash,” he said, adding that the helicopter was returning to a Ukrainian checkpoint after a cargo delivery mission.

The self-defense troops, who fired the missile, escaped to the nearby village of Bylbasovka, Seleznyov wrote.

(Excerpt) Read more at rt.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: civilwar; slovyansk; ukraine
Shot down on the "TV Tower" hill that overlooks Slovyansk, that Kiev troops have occupied for 3 weeks now.

Shellings, airstrikes, and movements by the Kiev troops have been continuous since Poroshenko declared a "Ceasefire" last week.

Either Kiev obviously has no intention of honoring its "Ceasefire", or Poroshenko does not have control over the troops in the field, specifically the private militias of Right Sector, Kolomoisky, and Lyashko, that Kiev has given weapons, heavy artillery, and AFV's.

1 posted on 06/24/2014 2:36:53 PM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: tcrlaf

Also from the article:

“President Vladimir Putin has expressed concern over the resumption of hostilities in Slavyansk and urged Kiev to strive to bring about an end to the bloodshed in southeastern Ukraine.

“Unfortunately, now I have relevant information that in one of the most troubled areas – near the city of Slavyansk – the fighting is currently underway; [Kiev’s] paratroopers have landed there and there are already victims. It’s sad,” Putin said during a press-conference in Vienna, Austria.”


2 posted on 06/24/2014 2:42:45 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

“Helicopters”: rotary-winged aircraft constantly searching for places to crash


3 posted on 06/24/2014 2:51:37 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: tcrlaf

How’s the cease-fire declared by the Russian separatists going?


4 posted on 06/24/2014 2:51:43 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Not well:

Strelkov’s take:
Kiev government is de facto sabotaging the ceasefire agreement. Today, [notwithstanding yesterday’s] consultations, the [Ukrainian military] are shelling Semyonovka. At least five people have died there. From the direction of the Donetsk airport, a column of heavy armoured vehicles moved out toward Donetsk. This is just a sampling of the aggressive actions by the occupation forces on our territory.

This is the value of Kiev’s agreements with us. We believe that the Kiev government considers them a mere formality, necessary for the execution of the economic part of the EU [European Union] association agreement. All Kiev needs is for there to be an official[, formal] declaration of truce. De facto, there is no such ceasefire.
http://slavyangrad.wordpress.com/2014/06/24/briefings-june-24-2014/


5 posted on 06/24/2014 2:55:44 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: 1rudeboy

“How’s the cease-fire declared by the Russian separatists going?”

Since Poroshenko’s “Ceasefire” declaration, there have been numerous instances of shelling with heavy artillery, attacks, and airstrikes on rebel-held towns.

Does Poro actually have any control over the troops in the field, especially the private militias of the Billionaire Oligarch’s, and Right Sector??


6 posted on 06/24/2014 2:59:32 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

Ok, so they can shoot, but the Ukrainians can’t shoot back? Glad RT cleared that up for us.


7 posted on 06/24/2014 3:06:57 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

You didn’t read a word I said, did you....

Kiev has been actively attacking the rebels since Poroshenko declared a “Ceasefire”.


8 posted on 06/24/2014 3:10:55 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

How have the rebels been doing since they declared their “ceasefire?”


9 posted on 06/24/2014 3:22:49 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: tcrlaf

That is absolutely false. Ukraine’s forces have been firing back at the terrorists when fired upon, but they have taken no offensive actions since the cease fire took place. In the mean time, Russia’s forces claimed they would respect the cease fire starting yesterday, and today they have been attacking Ukraine’s forces on many fronts.

I see you are once again posting articles from Russia’s propaganda arm, RT.


10 posted on 06/24/2014 3:25:45 PM PDT by Agog
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“but they have taken no offensive actions since the cease fire took place”

THAT is what is absolutely false.

Report after report after report of Heavy artillery shellings, airstrikes, and attacks have been noted. Here is Strelkov’s lists, alone.
http://slavyangrad.wordpress.com/2014/06/24/briefings-june-24-2014/
This doesn’t include the border station attacks, and the attacks around Luhansk.

Several people have been killed by the shelling. Lie to yourself, but don’t try to lie to someone paying attention, OK?

https://twitter.com/search?q=ukraine&src=typd
https://twitter.com/search?q=Slovyansk&src=typd
https://twitter.com/search?q=donetsk&src=typd

Battle with use of artillery and armored vehicles under way near Donetsk - locals
Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_06_24/Battle-with-use-of-artillery-and-armored-vehicles-under-way-near-Donetsk-locals-1671/


11 posted on 06/24/2014 3:45:09 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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Kiev continues hostilities in south-eastern Ukraine
Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_06_25/Kiev-continues-hostilities-in-south-eastern-Ukraine-9058/

“Today was just another day of the war. Slavyansk was shelled, as well as the city of Snezhnoye in the Donetsk Region. Recently, fighting began on the outskirts of Donetsk in the area of the airport, with the use of armoured vehicles, cannons and mortar fire,” Borodai said.

The Prime Minister of the DPR called Kiev’s announcement of a ceasefire ludicrous. “Kiev never meant to stop the hostilities. Both sides have casualties. I can make an official statement that there has not been any ceasefire and it looks like there won’t be in the future,” Borodai said.

He accused Kiev of hypocrisy because the contact group sent by Kiev has no impact on the situation and no authority.
Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_06_25/Kiev-continues-hostilities-in-south-eastern-Ukraine-9058/

Within a couple of hours of the DPR agreeing to a cease-fire, Kiev troops were shelling Semenovka, a Slavyansk suburb.


12 posted on 06/24/2014 3:49:39 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

Tweets and Putin’s toadies as source? Are you serious?


13 posted on 06/24/2014 4:12:28 PM PDT by Agog
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To: Agog

Just because YOU choose to deny it has happened, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.


14 posted on 06/24/2014 5:06:54 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

Until you can point to a reliable source, I have no reason to believe that it happened. Citing to Putin’s paid twitter trolls and to a couple of Russian state owned media sources who quote Putin’s toadies running his terror operation in eastern Ukraine is not what I believe to be particularly compelling evidence gathering.

By the way, RT is putting forth the idea that ISIS was trained by the CIA. http://rt.com/op-edge/168064-isis-terrorism-usa-cia-war/ Care to comment? Do you consider this to be reliable information?


15 posted on 06/24/2014 5:21:49 PM PDT by Agog
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To: Agog
LOL, I was going to link you to this thread, but I saw that you posted it. But if it pisses-off our neo-Bolsheviks I'll post the link again.

Russia’s top 40 lies about Ukraine

16 posted on 06/24/2014 5:42:03 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Agog

“By the way, RT is putting forth the idea that ISIS was trained by the CIA”

Ask the U.S. Trainers of the “Syrian Opposition fighters” in Jordan what they think of that.


17 posted on 06/24/2014 5:48:33 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

Do you also agree with the RT articles implicit assertion that the U.S. is behind the ISIS actions in Iraq?


18 posted on 06/24/2014 6:10:45 PM PDT by Agog
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