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New ACLU report takes a snapshot of police militarization in the United States
The Washington Post ^ | June 24 at 9:29 AM | Radley Balko

Posted on 06/24/2014 4:52:40 PM PDT by lwd

The American Civil Liberties Union has released the results of its year-long study of police militarization.

{SNIP}

But we’ve already seen cases in which the mere factor that the resident of a home was a legal gun owner — in some cases by virtue of the fact that the owner had obtained some sort of state license — was used as an excuse to execute a full-on SWAT raid to serve a warrant for an otherwise nonviolent crime. Of the SWAT raids the ACLU studied in which police cited the possibility of finding a weapon in the home, they actually found a weapon just 35 percent of the time.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: aclu; banglist; donutwatch; militarization; policestate; wod

1 posted on 06/24/2014 4:52:40 PM PDT by lwd
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To: lwd

The list of the unintended consequences caused by the drug war is almost rivaled by the one caused by the invasion and occupation of Iraq.


2 posted on 06/24/2014 4:57:22 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Why work for a living when you can vote for a living?)
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To: lwd

I put all cops into the same category. Ignorant power hungry thugs who’ve never read the constitution and like to push people around.


3 posted on 06/24/2014 4:58:50 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps.)
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To: VerySadAmerican

And you would be wrong...


4 posted on 06/24/2014 4:59:35 PM PDT by bike800
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To: lwd

Next time I’m back in Minniesoda, I need to see if my Godson and Police Chief in his town has a battle tested ride.. He did time in Iraq, hope he lets me drive.


5 posted on 06/24/2014 5:01:45 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: lwd
"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

---Thomas Jefferson

6 posted on 06/24/2014 5:02:32 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a classical Christian approach to homeschool])
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To: lwd

ACLU looking to protect the rights of ordinary citizen? How’d this happen?


7 posted on 06/24/2014 5:07:01 PM PDT by Fido969 (What's sad is most)
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To: lwd

No Knock = No future with your kids. Memorize it you halfwits.


8 posted on 06/24/2014 5:07:55 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: bike800

Ditto !

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9 posted on 06/24/2014 5:11:58 PM PDT by Mears
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To: lwd

It had to happen I guess, me and the ACLU on the same page


10 posted on 06/24/2014 5:15:43 PM PDT by reefdiver (Be the Best you can be Whatever you Dream to be)
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To: reefdiver

Bush’s fault!!! /s


11 posted on 06/24/2014 5:18:08 PM PDT by JmyBryan
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To: lwd

after a series of long, low-intensity wars, the soldiers act as cops, and later the cops act like soldiers.


12 posted on 06/24/2014 5:20:56 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: lwd

“used as an excuse to execute a full-on SWAT raid to serve a warrant for an otherwise nonviolent crime...”

If you don’t want Nazi SWAT invading your domicile, get off your fat butts, save the kitchen remodeling for next year, stop worshipping Mammon, and elect yourselves a Constitutional, pro-second amendment county sheriff.

I have one, and there are no raids by city cops or the feds on our homes.In fact, he has run two police chiefs out of our county. Protecting your home and family isn’t rocket science.


13 posted on 06/24/2014 5:37:43 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave

Incidentally, the power that an elected county sheriff has is quite broad.


14 posted on 06/24/2014 5:39:35 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Jim Robinson
. . incident reports for search warrant executions, especially in drug investigations, often contained no information about why the SWAT team was being sent in, other than to note that the warrant was “high risk,” or else provided otherwise unsubstantiated information such as “suspect is believed to be armed.” In case after case that the ACLU examined, when a SWAT team was deployed to search a person’s home for drugs, officers determined that a person was “likely to be armed” on the basis of suspected but unfounded gang affiliations, past weapons convictions, or some other factor that did not truly indicate a basis for believing that the person in question was likely to be armed at the moment of the SWAT deployment. Of course, a reasonable belief that weapons are present should not by itself justify a SWAT deployment. Given that almost half of American households have guns, use of a SWAT team could almost always be justified if this were the sole factor.

Yesterday we discussed the impact of the war on drugs on race in America here and today we are confronted with the impact of the war on drugs on the right to keep arms, on the right to be secure in our homes from unreasonable search and seizure, and on the right to be free of police violence.

At some point we conservatives will have to begin to face the issue whether the war on drugs is harming conservative values more than upholding them. Whether the civil disintegration caused by the use of drugs is exceeded by the collateral damage done to society in the war on drugs.

When can a conservative say the lines will have crossed?


15 posted on 06/24/2014 5:51:28 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

Don’t f’n do drugs, stay out of jail. Pretty damn simple.


16 posted on 06/24/2014 5:54:11 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: sergeantdave
If you don’t want Nazi SWAT invading your domicile, get off your fat butts, save the kitchen remodeling for next year, stop worshipping Mammon, and elect yourselves a Constitutional, pro-second amendment county sheriff.

Well put, Sergeantdave. Getting to know your local chief of police, even if not elected or not even on our side, isn't a bad investment in your time either. Can't hurt if the guy knows your face. Good on you!

17 posted on 06/24/2014 5:58:08 PM PDT by Ace's Dad (Proud grandpa of a newly born "Brit Chick" named Poppy Loucks!)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist
FYI, THIS is worth reading

Nicely summarizes the botched raid by an out of control SWAT-type team made up of officers from several small CT towns against a suspect who was presumed to be armed and dangerous. Result, dead suspect and no weapons in the house other than those the cops brought in with them.

THE RAID

At about 2 p.m. members of the team, including the nine stack members, dressed in body armor and wearing helmets, left the Easton EMS offices about two and a half miles from Dogwood Drive. Chief Solomon and the team leaders drove off in sports utility vehicles while the rest of the officers boarded their large armored transport. Instead of climbing inside, several of the men chose to stand on the transport's running boards.

The team headed up Sports Hill Road, men in helmets and armor hanging off the tank-like vehicle. As they rolled into the quiet neighborhood residents either ran into their homes in terror or let curiosity get the better of them, according to police reports. One woman followed the two snipers as they got off the transport and moved into the woods near Terebesi's house.

18 posted on 06/24/2014 6:00:19 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: VerySadAmerican

“I put all cops into the same category. Ignorant power hungry thugs who’ve never read the constitution and like to push people around.”

Oh they’ve read it, while wiping their rears with it. They pay just enough attention to invent loop holes. Case in point, there was an area recently that decided that because drug checkpoints were illegal, they set up fake drug checkpoints with signs. If you made any move to avoid it, ignoring that maybe people just don’t want to be harassed or abused by cops, they then pulled you over using that action to justify searching you.

Now any honest person would call it a drug checkpoint. But cops are never interested in being honest. Cops have about the same integrity as Obama.


19 posted on 06/24/2014 6:14:32 PM PDT by LevinFan
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To: Jim Robinson

“Don’t f’n do drugs, stay out of jail. Pretty damn simple.”

It is a lot more complicated than that, and you know it. ANY suspected offense has now become SWAT worthy. Raids are now done with minimal intelligence.
And with 80+K raids a year now, want to guess how many times these irresponsible nuts screw it up? Recently a family got raided over tea leaves in their trash. Last year, a small girl got burned by a police flashbang over a nonexistent meth lab. That isn’t acceptable.

Even if a bad raid doesn’t actually cause injury or death, it still leaves innocent people traumatized by the violent assault on their home. Or do you actually believe you can treat a family in this manner and have no lasting affects?

Cops are paid to take the risks, not pass them on to everyone else. If a cop has no more balls than a mall cop, why do we pay them more?


20 posted on 06/24/2014 6:21:07 PM PDT by LevinFan
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To: LevinFan

Be sure and ping post #4


21 posted on 06/24/2014 6:27:13 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps.)
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To: LevinFan

Let’s not forget the many multiple documented “wrong address” raids. Many of these swat teams don’t deserve the gear they’ve received.


22 posted on 06/24/2014 6:42:40 PM PDT by catbertz
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To: LevinFan
why do we pay them more?

Unions. We are vastly over-policed by officers who are paid much more than they are actually worth to the taxpayer.
23 posted on 06/24/2014 6:43:43 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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To: LevinFan

Don’t do drugs or drug related offenses. Don’t burgle, cheat, rob or steal. Don’t commit aggravated assault, rape, murder, or any other violent crime. The original thread was whining about the large numbers of blacks imprisoned on drug related charges. I’m simply pointing out that it’s no one’s fault but their own. Don’t do drugs. These are all things that loving parentS teach their children. The shame is on the black poverty pimp $$$ industry and those enabling the government plantation to exist.


24 posted on 06/24/2014 7:04:11 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

That is all true, but I don’t see why the EPA, Post Office and stuff need machine guns and SWAT teams and I don’t see why small rural towns need MRAP vehicles.


25 posted on 06/24/2014 7:05:46 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Jim Robinson

WAY outside the big cities, I mean


26 posted on 06/24/2014 7:06:16 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL
... and I don’t see why small rural towns need MRAP vehicles.

Military surplus heavy vehicles actually do make sense for rural towns, and there's a record of them being gifted to such dating back to post-WWII. We're not just talking Jeeps and Deuce and a Halfs, either, but halftracks, DUKWs and even de-gunned tanks like Shermans. They're incredibly useful when confronting natural disasters and the like.

The difference is that back then the vehicles would go to the local Fire/Rescue and/or Civil Defense Orgs. These days they get painted black (or dark blue) and go to the cops. Which is where the mistake is being made.
27 posted on 06/24/2014 7:13:34 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter
Military surplus heavy vehicles actually do make sense for rural towns,

I hear maintainence costs are huge for those things.

28 posted on 06/24/2014 7:17:22 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

No they don’t. But that’s not the reason the prisons are full of criminals, black or white.


29 posted on 06/24/2014 7:21:56 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: GeronL
I hear maintainence costs are huge for those things.

MRAPs use a lot of commercial/off the shelf components, and are usually based on a commercial platform (Navistar - formerly International Harvester - made a lot of them.) And there's a good supply of spares to draw from, including vehicles used for cannibalization.

Still, yes, much more expensive than a police cruiser or super-duty commercial pickup truck. But in something like the aftermath of a hurricane or tornado or flood (or even during a flood, with their fording capabilities), they're going to be invaluable.

The two deuce and a halfs and Dodge 3/4 ton weapons carrier my town had (WWII or Korean War surplus) were invaluable when Gloria tore through Southern New England in 1985.
30 posted on 06/24/2014 7:24:47 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Jim Robinson

true


31 posted on 06/24/2014 7:24:54 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Jim Robinson

NOT EVERYONE GETTING RAIDED IS COMMITTING ANY CRIME AT ALL. Explain that? And a great many have such minor offenses as being accused of over fishing.
Even for those who have committed an offense, this is the United States of America, not North Korea. Even with the guilty, LE shouldn’t be allowed to just behave and use whatever tactics they want.

Cops are too damned eager to smash through a house because it is just such great fun. Seriously, I just pointed out they were so eager that they raided a family over TEA leaves.

I’m not for drugs in any way shape or form. That doesn’t mean that I’m thing going to be on the side of cops doing whatever they want to fight drugs. It isn’t an “either/or” situation. One can believe in drug enforcement, and restraint by LE while doing it.


32 posted on 06/24/2014 7:50:49 PM PDT by LevinFan
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To: LevinFan

Where’d you get the idea I’m in favor of raiding?


33 posted on 06/24/2014 7:55:23 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Sure sounded like it, with your focus on the crime and not the tactics for fighting it. It read like you thought everyone getting hit was automatically guilty. Maybe I just see to many people who do assume it.

There is doubting that a lot of them are guilty as sin. And I’m not shedding tears over their hardships. But it is dangerous to let cops get an “ends justify the means”.


34 posted on 06/24/2014 8:07:54 PM PDT by LevinFan
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To: LevinFan

All I said was don’t do the crime.

I’ve always been opposed to swat raids.


35 posted on 06/24/2014 8:12:03 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: LevinFan; Jim Robinson
Jim replied to a post that referred to a different thread about Ru Rand Paul playing the race card.
36 posted on 06/25/2014 6:25:17 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: lwd

But, in related news, the ACLU says it’s OK to be arming up the government against the citizenry as long as democRats are doing it and Christians are the targets.


37 posted on 06/25/2014 6:26:23 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: nathanbedford
When can a conservative say the lines will have crossed?

The biggest supporters that I've seen of this unconstitutional attack against the rights of citizens seem to be those with a personal stake in its continuation. As long as their paycheck or lifestyle is being supported by the drug war, they'll continue to support it and attack those who oppose them viciously. The difference between the dealers and the state is negligible in the long run. I have less to fear from a mexican 'kingpin' than I do from some drug warrior who decides he wants my stuff.

38 posted on 06/25/2014 6:47:40 AM PDT by zeugma (It is time for us to start playing cowboys and muslims for real now.)
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To: The Toll

Revolt is coming.


39 posted on 06/25/2014 6:53:28 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: LevinFan
Cops are paid to take the risks, not pass them on to everyone else. If a cop has no more balls than a mall cop, why do we pay them more?

Exactly. If you feel the job is just too dangerous, then you need to find another line of work. Brutalizing everyone around you so you can feel safe is not acceptable.

40 posted on 06/25/2014 10:08:48 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: lwd
...they actually found a weapon just 35 percent of the time.

We ARE getting better at hiding them...

41 posted on 06/25/2014 12:13:01 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: zeugma
The biggest supporters that I've seen of this unconstitutional attack against the rights of citizens seem to be those with a personal stake in its continuation.

I'm afraid you overestimate voters. The majority are still law & order absolutists who think it's 1971 and only hippies and Black Panthers criticize the brave men in blue who put their lives on the line ... blah, blah. Most Americans either never heard of a cop shooting a dog, or think it's cool. They WANT authority. The majority of FReepers were that way not too long ago. But there's too much info here for us to all just look away.

I once heard Levin make ONE quick reference to police militarization. But you can tell he and the other big hosts are on a tight leash.

42 posted on 06/25/2014 12:31:03 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Peace On Earth! Purity of Essence! McCain/Ripper 2016)
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