Skip to comments.IRS Email Jeopardy: The agency had a legal obligation to retain the records it lost
Posted on 06/24/2014 6:36:48 PM PDT by JOHN ADAMS
The IRS is spinning a tale of bureaucratic incompetence to explain the vanishing emails from former Tax Exempt Organizations doyenne Lois Lerner and six other IRS employees. We have less faith by the minute that there is an innocent explanation for this failure to cooperate with Congress, but even if true it doesn't matter. The IRS was under a legal obligation to retain the information because of a litigation hold.
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Kelly file just mentioned they were able to recreate the IRS emails to Lerner. It’s her emails to WH and DOJ that are missing. We need confirmation of this And distribution if true.
They would rather some bureaucrat fall on his/her sward over the minor problem of failing their legal obligation to backup the suspect emails then have the emails exposed.
There is no evidence, that the L. Lerner e-mail messages are lost.
The libs keep gasping, “But Bush ‘lost’ 5 million emails!” Not that 2 wrongs make a right, but this deflection needs to be met head on. How?
I miss Taranto's Best of the Web
Obama has a legal obligation to uphold the Constitution.
Doesn’t seem to matter, huh?
They probably don’t have the e-mails sent outside the IRS, such as ones sent to private e-mail accounts.
At today’s hearing it was dropped by Issa that a universal subpoena was sent to the WH. Iirc that includes all WH emails
I was referring to the recovery process. Inter office e-mails can theoretically be obtained from the sender and any recipient...with a global search within the office. Any e-mails sent outside to private e-mail addresses cannot be obtained in the same manner.
Thanks for clarification
Makes no sense whatsoever, as they are not in control of emails sent out; only those coming in.
Much like a murder weapon being run over by a blow torch.
What? E-mail has both an inbox and a Sent folder. Searches can be done on each.
This has less to do with who is in power than the question of the abuse of power itself. No administration of any party should be allowed to use the IRS or any agency to intimidate, silence and punish their political critics and adversaries. Our democratic ways, and our first amendment rights are literally at stake over this.
Every IT person in the country has been saying this since the bogus story came out. I'm glad someone is making an issue of it, but it needs to get much louder. Lots of people need to lose their jobs and/or be prosecuted for this. Unfortunately, it's going to be some lowly IT guys that end up the scapegoat for this treachery and deceit
Why do you hate the WSJ firewall?
it has to do with how they configure the archives. “Sent Items” and “Deleted Items” are typically ignored where space becomes an issue. However, this does not relieve them (government) of their obligation and mandates that private businesses are not bound to. Those (sent items) should have been archived just like all other mail. The excuses are ludicrous and everyone knows it. When people started squawking about the archive mandate, they changed up the story... nothing unexpected. We know they are going to lie about it because they know there isn’t anyone with spine enough to call them to the mat and hold them accountable. It’s nothing short of infuriating
...Utah Rep. Jason Chaffetz needled Koskinen about a short-term data backup that the IRS had in place in 2011 when Lerner's hard drive crashed, but never used.
'It's actually a disaster recovery system,' the IRS commissioner testified, 'and it backs up for six months in case the entire system goes down ... That was the rule in 2011. Policy.'
Chaffetz wanted to know 'why didn't they just go to that six-month tape?'
Koskinen replied that it is a disaster recovery tape that has all of the emails on it, and is a very complicated tape to actually extract emails [from], but I have not seen any emails to explain why they didn't do it. So I It would be difficult, but I don't know why they didn't do it.'...
They had/have them ALL from her work computer, but "it's complicated".
BTW - real IT professionals don't get to use the "it's complicated" excuse.
If you work for IRS IT, it's a different story, apparently. Good thing federal government workers have a 95%+ retention rate, because the private sector doesn't hire "pretend" IT "professionals"...
What is on a server and what is on her hard drive? Her inbox and sent are on the server. Anything she’s typing or hasn’t sent is on her hard drive. So if her computer is recycled and the hard drive is crushed, then nothing is really lost. Is it? Someone should talk to the contractor people who were maintaining the email server.
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