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Sen. Rand Paul has support of Democratic Sen. Harry Reid on felon voting rights bill
cn|2 Pure Politics ^ | 6/24/2014 | Nick Storm

Posted on 06/24/2014 9:07:11 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat

Republican U.S. Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky has found an unlikely ally in U.S. Senate in Majority Leader Harry Reid, at least on a measure which would return non-violent felons their right to vote.

Paul has been pushing to restore the voting rights to non-violent felons in Kentucky, speaking to community members in West Louisville about the initiative and appearing in a state Senate committee meeting in February.

The legislation, which was drafted in the form of a constitutional amendment, was changed by state Senate Republicans in Frankfort, and never made it to a floor vote in the Senate.

In the United States Senate, Paul is expected to introduced legislation this week to restore the right to vote for non-violent felons and as Politico reports, he even wants to redefine some felony drug sentencing.

“This is a much bigger problem than anything else limiting voting right now. Nearly a million people can’t vote. And I want to help people get their right to vote back,” Paul told CNN’s Candy Crowley on Sunday.

As Paul noted in the interview with Crowley, a higher rate of African-Americans have felony convictions for non-violent drug crimes — even though statistics show that Caucasians abuse drugs at five times the rate of African-Americans according to the NAACP . And the NAACP notes that yet, African-Americans are sent to prison at 10 times the rate of whites for drug crimes.

On the floor of the U.S. Senate Tuesday, U.S. Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nevada, said he agreed with the need for the legislation, saying 15 years ago he too filed similar legislation.

“I so appreciate his suggestion and I’ll have more to say about that later and I hope I don’t get him in trouble with his Republican caucus for congratulating him on this,” Reid said.

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KEYWORDS: cruz; harryreid; palin; randpaul; rupaul; tedcruz

1 posted on 06/24/2014 9:07:11 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat

Is Mitch going to put up with Grimey felons voting against him or the Kentucky Gov candidate?


2 posted on 06/24/2014 9:08:08 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: Republican Wildcat

Ah yes, anything to increase democrat voters.

Paul is an idiot.


3 posted on 06/24/2014 9:12:02 PM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: Republican Wildcat

I agree with this... If a person has paid their debt to society, why should they not be citizens again.


4 posted on 06/24/2014 9:14:37 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: babygene

and own guns too!


5 posted on 06/24/2014 9:16:01 PM PDT by porter_knorr
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To: porter_knorr

“and own guns too!”

Yes...


6 posted on 06/24/2014 9:19:33 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: Republican Wildcat

When is Rand going to say something that makes sense? The idiot has lost me..


7 posted on 06/24/2014 9:23:28 PM PDT by boycott
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To: Republican Wildcat

Randy Paul has gotten worse than Marco Rubio.


8 posted on 06/24/2014 9:23:29 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: porter_knorr

“and own guns too!”

Most felonies do not involve violence. There are tens of thousands of felonies at a state or federal level (you could have committed one today and not even realized it).

If a person is not ready to be released, then keep him/her in prison.


9 posted on 06/24/2014 9:24:58 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: icwhatudo

Hey, Democrats helped the establishment in Mississippi. We’re dealing with the Uniparty now.


10 posted on 06/24/2014 9:25:50 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: babygene
>> I agree with this... If a person has paid their debt to society, why should they not be citizens again. <<

They're still citizens, just ones that have lost the privilege of voting. So you're fine and dandy with letting some marxist left-wing activist who was convicted of voter fraud being allowed to vote again once they're patrolled?

11 posted on 06/24/2014 9:30:31 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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To: icwhatudo

Actually, I think his proposal has some potential. Someone convicted of a non-violent drug felony in their early 20’s should not lose their voting rights for the remainder of their lives if they have kept their nose clean. Maybe there can be some restrictions ....like a clean record for 10 years.


12 posted on 06/24/2014 9:33:00 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey NSA!)
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To: babygene
If a person is not ready to be released, then keep him/her in prison.

You don't believe in anything in between? It's either a 100% return, or life in prison?

13 posted on 06/24/2014 9:34:12 PM PDT by ansel12 (( Rand Paul---What a tragedy if America wouldn't have gotten to see Barack Obama as a leader.)
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To: babygene

Scooter Libby or Martha Stewart might go on a gun rampage. /s


14 posted on 06/24/2014 9:35:48 PM PDT by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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To: Girlene
>> his proposal has some potential <<

Yes, it has potential to ensure Democrats win all future elections, which is why the Dems are pushing for this and illegal alien amnesty. Illegal aliens + convicted felons voting = DemonRats win. Study after study has shown that:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/12/31/Study-Most-Convicts-Vote-Democrat

15 posted on 06/24/2014 9:37:16 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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To: icwhatudo

No, Paul is a turncoat.


16 posted on 06/24/2014 9:38:55 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Republican Wildcat

How about restoring the right to keep and bear arms for non-violent felons?


17 posted on 06/24/2014 9:52:25 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: icwhatudo

Now now...we must vote GOP no matter what or we hate America and love Obama. I read that right here by staunch rock ribbed conservatives.


18 posted on 06/24/2014 9:53:02 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: babygene

If they aren’t rehabilitated then perhaps they should stay in jail. Otherwise make em full citizens.


19 posted on 06/24/2014 9:53:03 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: BillyBoy

“So you’re fine and dandy with letting some marxist left-wing activist who was convicted of voter fraud being allowed to vote again once they’re patrolled?”

Name one person who has been convicted of that. (in your dreams)


20 posted on 06/24/2014 9:54:01 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: icwhatudo

I just received a letter from Paul in the mail.

He asked for money.


21 posted on 06/24/2014 9:54:39 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: driftdiver

If they are allowed to vote, they should be allowed to bear arms as well. FULL rights as citizen if have not committed any crimes in 10+ years


22 posted on 06/24/2014 9:57:48 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: ansel12

“You don’t believe in anything in between? It’s either a 100% return, or life in prison?”

Yes...


23 posted on 06/24/2014 9:59:46 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: icwhatudo

AMEN.


24 posted on 06/24/2014 10:00:05 PM PDT by Mozilla
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To: aquila48

Rand has morphed into aeEstablishment fool.


25 posted on 06/24/2014 10:01:37 PM PDT by Mozilla
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To: aquila48

Rand has morphed into a Establishment fool.


26 posted on 06/24/2014 10:03:31 PM PDT by Mozilla
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To: BillyBoy

I see your point, but I still think his bill has some potential. Maybe it should have a requirement of having to have a clean record for 20 years (not 10 per my original suggestion).

Regardless, it likely won’t happen any time soon.


27 posted on 06/24/2014 10:10:33 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey NSA!)
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To: babygene

You don’t even sound like you are fooling yourself.

Have you ever been a part of a social structure of future cons, ex-cons, and repeat cons, and in and out cons, and never caught so far felons, who were your friends and roommates and running buddies, who you knew what they were really like, and what they would think about this nonsense?

Have you ever run with the Sociopaths and Psychopaths and seen how they don’t even see prison and doing time like you seem to think they do, and not just them, the system itself that has to manage them?


28 posted on 06/24/2014 10:13:18 PM PDT by ansel12 (( Rand Paul---What a tragedy if America wouldn't have gotten to see Barack Obama as a leader.)
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To: babygene

Name one? I can name dozens. Where shall we start? Meet your future eligible Democrat voter pool if Rand Paul gets his way. All “non-violent” offenders:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/03/wow-al-sharpton-democrats-honor-convicted-voter-fraud-felon-melowese-richardson-at-welcome-home-party/

http://www.virginiavotersalliance.com/democrats-arrested-and-or-convicted-of-voter-fraud/

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/27/us-usa-california-wright-idUSBREA1Q05N20140227

http://chicagoinspectorgeneral.org/publications-and-press/press-releases/city-of-chicago-employee-convicted-of-vote-fraud/

http://sos.iowa.gov/news/2014_05_21c.html

http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2003/10/17/loc_kyvotefraud17.html

http://www.nwitimes.com/ap/state/ex-councilman-convicted-of-vote-fraud-tax-evasion-il/article_59d443d8-ff73-532b-a760-eff08f9b3a26.html

http://www.chicagonow.com/publius-forum/2010/08/2-chicago-democrats-convicted-of-vote-fraud/

http://www.kentucky.com/2012/04/13/2149499/three-more-plead-guilty-to-vote.html

http://electionlawcenter.com/2012/02/27/texas-justice-of-the-peace-found-guilty-of-vote-fraud.aspx

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-1453051.html


29 posted on 06/24/2014 10:13:54 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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To: Republican Wildcat
If Harry Reid thought non-violent felons were going to vote for Republicans, does anyone here believe Reid would support this legislation?
30 posted on 06/24/2014 11:48:10 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Republican Wildcat

Republican U.S. Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky has found an unlikely ally in U.S. Senate in Majority Leader Harry Reid

&&&
Nothing “unlikely” in that pairing; Runt is more in line with Reid than he is with any true Republican.


31 posted on 06/25/2014 12:21:47 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: BillyBoy

Good one Billy. You did your homework. I spent more than 25 years in California prisons. It was not fun, dealing with the dregs of society, day in and day out, but I survived.


32 posted on 06/25/2014 1:07:01 AM PDT by Mark17 (Rudyard Kipling: Liberals be wary, when the SHTF, The Wrath of the Awakened Saxon will clobber you)
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To: BillyBoy
Yes, it has potential to ensure Democrats win all future elections

You are correct sir. I do not even think I would be going out on a limb, to say the vast majority of prison inmates are Dem supporters. Many of the ones I talked to, thought the rats were softer on crime, so they supported rats over pubbies. I am sure there were some other reasons too, but I think that ONE reason was the most important to them.

33 posted on 06/25/2014 1:13:30 AM PDT by Mark17 (Rudyard Kipling: Liberals be wary, when the SHTF, The Wrath of the Awakened Saxon will clobber you)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Criminals are a natural Democratic constituency. Republicans are generally speaking for longer sentences for crimes and repeat offenders will be punished less severely if Democrats win. Additionally, convicted criminals attempting to reintegrate into society after serving time are going to need welfare programs at a higher than average rate. The only issue on which Republicans are better for the convicts are restoration of gun rights, and my guess is that is less attractive than money or leniency.


34 posted on 06/25/2014 2:36:16 AM PDT by Nova442
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To: aquila48

Something in the coffee on the hill


35 posted on 06/25/2014 3:12:33 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: Republican Wildcat

Rand Paul has gone completely around the bend in the last several months!

The majority of felons are Black and Democrat, and many have converted to Islam while in prison.

Rand has flushed any chance he ever had for being a Prez candidate on the GOP/Conservative ticket, because he continues to run his mouth in support of just about every liberal social issue.


36 posted on 06/25/2014 5:04:56 AM PDT by octex
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To: Republican Wildcat

“Non-violent” will soon be set aside for “all.”


37 posted on 06/25/2014 5:39:24 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Ruin Paul is the Judas Iscariot of the Republican Party.


38 posted on 06/25/2014 5:58:12 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: Republican Wildcat

The Paul’s have left the Republican party and any sense of decency. Good to see the colors now, and NOT when Rand is getting sworn into office... /sarc


39 posted on 06/25/2014 6:36:00 AM PDT by madison10
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To: Republican Wildcat

I really wish Rand Paul would just switch to “Independent” and get it over with.

I was hoping for another Ted Cruz. Instead, we’re getting another RINO.


40 posted on 06/25/2014 8:22:00 AM PDT by TitansAFC (2016: 1. Palin, 2. Cruz, 3. Perry, 4. Walker, 5. Huckabee (to make the GOP-E see what WE go through))
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To: Eric in the Ozarks; Republican Wildcat; fieldmarshaldj; Impy
>> “Non-violent” will soon be set aside for “all.” <<

I agree. If Rand Paul gets this bill passed, some liberal judge will strike down the "non-violent" rule for convicted felons and say its unfair and violates equal protection rules because both the violent and non-violent offender have "done their time and paid their debt to society" and have had their full rights restored, so its "fundamentally unfair" to say one of them can vote and one can't.

Good news for Fabian Nunez after AHNULD pardoned his murderous thug son.

Plus, as I noted earlier, Rand did NOT include an exception to ban felons convicted of VOTE FRAUD from voting. Al Franken is probably jealous he didn't introduce the bill.

41 posted on 06/25/2014 11:01:14 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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