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NC lawmaker: Pedophilia is like homosexuality
AP/SF Chronicle ^ | 6/25/2014 | KATELYN FERRAL

Posted on 06/25/2014 7:40:50 AM PDT by markomalley

As North Carolina lawmakers debated a proposal to prevent charter schools from discriminating against applicants based on sexual orientation, one representative suggested Tuesday that adult sexual attraction to children is a sexual orientation like homosexuality.

The amendment was tabled by Republicans, preventing a vote on it. But during the debate, Republican Rep. Paul Stam, R-Wake, said pedophilia, masochism and other illegal sexual practices are sexual orientations like homosexuality and he questioned the role adults who are sexually attracted to children might have in schools.

Several lawmakers called those comments offensive. After the House session, Twitter lit up with criticism of Stam's comments from other lawmakers and left-leaning advocacy groups.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: agenda; childabuse; childrape; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; moralabsolutes; nwo; paulstam; pedophileagenda; pedophilia; pervert; pushingpedophilia; rape; sexualorientation; stam
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1 posted on 06/25/2014 7:40:50 AM PDT by markomalley
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But during the debate, Republican Rep. Paul Stam, R-Wake, said pedophilia, masochism and other illegal sexual practices are sexual orientations like homosexuality and he questioned the role adults who are sexually attracted to children might have in schools.

Rep. Paul Stam, R-Wake

The “Big Tent” should be torn down!!! I don’t believe this was ever the intent of that phrase.


2 posted on 06/25/2014 7:44:50 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name (\w)
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To: markomalley

Incrementalism in action.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: the supporters of pedophilia, polygamy, incest and beastiality are and will use the same playbook used by the militant homosexual activists to force their perversions to be deemed "normal". The homosexual activists showed how to do it, and the others will follow.

And before you say "That will never happen," just remember you would have said the exact same thing about homosexual marriage 30 years ago.


3 posted on 06/25/2014 7:46:15 AM PDT by caligatrux (...some animals are more equal than others.)
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To: markomalley

Like it or not, the Left has opened up the floodgates.

Every imaginable sexual perversion is now in the queue for legitimacy.

Once homosexuality was not only “normalized” but celebrated, the logic for banning any form of consentual sexual activity was effectively jettisoned.

In fact, how do laws against prostitution have any standing anymore?


4 posted on 06/25/2014 7:46:36 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: markomalley

TRUTH
HURTS


5 posted on 06/25/2014 7:48:12 AM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: markomalley
...during the debate, Republican Rep. Paul Stam, R-Wake, said pedophilia, masochism and other illegal sexual practices are sexual orientations like homosexuality and he questioned the role adults who are sexually attracted to children might have in schools.

What about doing "all kinds of indecent things with animals"? Is that an orientation too?

6 posted on 06/25/2014 7:49:42 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Westbrook
near the end of the Reign Of Emperor Obama...all forms of child sacrifice..will be legalized and....will be celebrated....


7 posted on 06/25/2014 7:49:52 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: markomalley

Looks as though the lawmaker made his point.


8 posted on 06/25/2014 7:52:33 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Westbrook
Once homosexuality was not only “normalized” but celebrated, the logic for banning any form of consentual sexual activity was effectively jettisoned.

True. Of course pedophilia is not consensual under the law, or to those with common sense.

So they will first work on changing the age of consent.

The pedophiles have an ally in Eric Holder. He recently gave a speech at an LGBT conference, lamenting the prohibition of homosexual boy scout leaders.

It shines a whole new meaning on "boy scout".

9 posted on 06/25/2014 7:58:15 AM PDT by zipper (In Their Heart Of Hearts, Every Democrat Is A Communist.)
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To: markomalley

Twitter ‘lights up’ when Kim Kardashian changes shoes.

This is one media cliche that has to go.


10 posted on 06/25/2014 7:59:27 AM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Endual,etc)
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To: Westbrook

Of course these things are offensive.

By design.

“In your face”, as a strategy, seems to work, if pursued long enough and with enough enthusiasm. I could give a flying - whatever - what somebody believes or does, PRIVATELY. But when it reaches out and touches persons otherwise not of that persuasion, or not of sound and reasoned adult perspective, then it becomes a form of aggressive behavior, not to be countenanced or permitted. Just another form of bullying, and isn’t that something that the “pious pornographers” have called upon the rest of us to stop doing?

The social contract has been largely unstated up to now, but there comes a time when “enough is enough”. Behave in a civilized manner, and shut up about it. Behave in a distinctly uncivilized manner, behind closed doors, and shut up about it.

Just shut up about it. Don’t bother me or other honest folk with your crapulent actions.


11 posted on 06/25/2014 8:00:13 AM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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To: markomalley

Amazing how what was only recently a mental illness - like the “transgendered” phenomenon - suddenly becomes just another orientation to be celebrated and legally protected.


12 posted on 06/25/2014 8:02:08 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: markomalley
one representative suggested Tuesday that adult sexual attraction to children is a sexual orientation like homosexuality.

Of course it is. And they are both abominations to a Holy God.

13 posted on 06/25/2014 8:03:00 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: markomalley

Hah!

I’d love to see a school or business state that they do not discriminate on the basis of sex, religion, age, bestiality, homosexuality, pedophillia, necrophillia or any other similar type orientations.


14 posted on 06/25/2014 8:03:12 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: markomalley

Pedophilia does not involve consenting adults.
It involves someone who is helpless just as rape does.

That fact that this has to be stated is pathetic.


15 posted on 06/25/2014 8:03:14 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: zipper

They may need a little western vigilante justice on the city square.


16 posted on 06/25/2014 8:05:15 AM PDT by biff (WAS)
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To: caligatrux

Heck, 10 years ago. 5 years ago Obama said he was against Sodomite “marriage”. Everyone knew he was lying, but had to get the black preachers cover so they could tell their congregations to vote for him.

Anyway, you’re totally right. I would think polygamy was next if it wasn’t for the fact that Sodomites also like kids. There’s enough of a movement to emancipate kids from their parents that I can see that happening. Will decent people finally take their kids out of public schools when sex ed includes live demonstrations?


17 posted on 06/25/2014 8:09:45 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: markomalley
More proof of my thesis. There is no Republican Party. There is only the Democrat's Other Party Establishment.
18 posted on 06/25/2014 8:10:23 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: zipper

When a 4 year old boy can choose to be a girl, and everyone around is forced to pretend he’s a girl, why can’t a 4 year also consent to sex? See what they’ve done?


19 posted on 06/25/2014 8:13:16 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: markomalley

Flak = target..........................


20 posted on 06/25/2014 8:15:12 AM PDT by Red Badger (I've posted a total of 2,743 threads and 84,837 replies.)
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To: servo1969
Pedophilia does not involve consenting adults. It involves someone who is helpless just as rape does.

Actually, according to the Random House Dictionary, pedophilia doesn't involve any actions at all.

Pedophilia: sexual desire in an adult for a child.

By the way, because some people have a hard time with reading comprehension and tend to read things into passages that weren't actually written (and no, servo, I'm not saying that you are "some people"), let me spell it out: I am not suggesting for a second that pedophilia or pedophiles be a protected class. Nor am I suggesting that homosexuality or homosexuals be a protected class.

21 posted on 06/25/2014 8:15:51 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: servo1969

It’s obvious to you, and me, but it’s obvious that homosexual practices are against nature. It’s also obvious that a boy is not a girl and a girl is not a boy. Have you noticed this isn’t so obvious to the people who run our institutions? In Belgium very young kids are able to choose to be euthanized. Could you imagine just 10 years ago that the MSM would refer to a 4 yo boy as a “she” in a story about which bathroom he gets to use at school? I think the pedophilia movement is about to smack us in the face. It’s probably closer than we think.


23 posted on 06/25/2014 8:21:23 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: zipper

> So they will first work on changing the age of consent.

Yes, then all that will be necessary is the promise of a candy bar or a pony ride.


24 posted on 06/25/2014 8:23:21 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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Yes, then all that will be necessary is the promise of a candy bar or a pony ride.

Or merit badge.

25 posted on 06/25/2014 8:36:45 AM PDT by zipper (In Their Heart Of Hearts, Every Democrat Is A Communist.)
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To: markomalley

The damage being done to our future society is immeasurable, and happening very quickly. Thanks libtards and their king Obama.


26 posted on 06/25/2014 8:39:20 AM PDT by ZX12R (Never forget the heroes of Benghazi, who were abandoned to their deaths by Obama)
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To: Cats Pajamas

I already jumped in. DOPE Party.


27 posted on 06/25/2014 8:40:41 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: markomalley

The article is very badly presented. The title is terribly misleading and you don’t find out until the 5th paragraph the truth of this. Stram was NOT defending pedophilia; NOT actually saying it was the same as homosexuality.

Stram handed out a sheet with 30 different “sexual orientations” on it. The proposed amendment was to not allow discrimination based on “sexual orientation”.

Rep Stam pointed out that using these words would mean pedophiles (and other pervs) would be allowed to teach at the non-discriminatory charter school. he was maiking a very salient point.

‘In response, Stam handed out a sheet listing what he said were 30 different sexual orientations. He argued the definition of sexual orientation must be narrowed, otherwise it would include masochism, sadism, pedophilia, along with homosexuality and heterosexuality.

“Sexual orientation is not defined anywhere,” he said. “Many, many sexual orientations are not the ones you want to have teaching kids in schools,” he said. “You may think you know what you mean by this but you don’t.”


28 posted on 06/25/2014 8:43:17 AM PDT by CaptainPhilFan ( It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chew yer ass out all day long.)
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To: markomalley

We always knew this would be their next move.


29 posted on 06/25/2014 8:55:15 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: demshateGod
When a 4 year old boy can choose to be a girl, and everyone around is forced to pretend he’s a girl, why can’t a 4 year also consent to sex? See what they’ve done?

Why, yes, I do. Excellent example!

30 posted on 06/25/2014 8:59:56 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Told 'em not to science those burgers too hard. ~ Darksheare)
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To: zipper; Westbrook; Alex Murphy; no-to-illegals
I'm not a Freudian, but it was Freud who said more than 100 years ago that the ONE thing all perversions have in common, is that they are turned away from procreation.

That's the root of the word perversion: "per" thoroughly, "version", turning.

A gay man, a lesbian, a fetishist, a pedophile, a bestialist, a necrophile, a contraceptor: they have all turned away from sex in the procreative form.

31 posted on 06/25/2014 9:01:44 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Lord, save Your people and bless Your inheritance; give victory to the faithful over their adversary)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
they have all turned away from sex in the procreative form.

Amen Mrs. Don-o. Spot on analysis from you.

32 posted on 06/25/2014 9:04:22 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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33 posted on 06/25/2014 9:04:46 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

> I’m not a Freudian, but it was Freud who said more than 100
> years ago that the ONE thing all perversions have in
> common, is that they are turned away from procreation.

An astute observation, indeed, even if it was made by one of the chief apologists for perversion.


34 posted on 06/25/2014 9:06:53 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: CaptainPhilFan

What? You read the article?

Whats wrong with you? Why would you do that?

/s


35 posted on 06/25/2014 9:07:12 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: markomalley
Unsurprisingly, the SFGate article has a commenter saying "Pedophilia is natural and not a disease".

And the ABC13 article has a commenter saying the lawmaker should be executed.

36 posted on 06/25/2014 9:12:52 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: markomalley

Yeah - like this is a big surprise.


37 posted on 06/25/2014 9:26:44 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: markomalley

If we really want to show the world how enlightened we are, we really must actively recruit and employ those who feel that sex with barnyard animals is, hey, perfectly okay!


38 posted on 06/25/2014 9:27:22 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: demshateGod
Could you imagine just 10 years ago that the MSM would refer to a 4 yo boy as a “she” in a story about which bathroom he gets to use at school? I think the pedophilia movement is about to smack us in the face. It’s probably closer than we think.

**************************

I wish that I could disagree, but with a militant homosexual who ignores the constitution leading our country, these are all issues that are on the fast-track.

39 posted on 06/25/2014 9:29:24 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: markomalley

Half of child rapes in the US are committed by homosexuals.


40 posted on 06/25/2014 9:31:20 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Excellent point.


41 posted on 06/25/2014 9:31:45 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Westbrook
-- In fact, how do laws against prostitution have any standing anymore? --

The courts have been capable of redefining marriage, it's just a matter of when they get around to defining a contractual 10 minute relationship as marriage.

42 posted on 06/25/2014 9:38:49 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: markomalley

Homosexuals love to depravedly defile the innocent.


43 posted on 06/25/2014 9:38:52 AM PDT by afsnco
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To: zipper
-- Of course pedophilia is not consensual under the law ... --

Well, there are two ways to go after this. One is to redefine "consent," wholesale. The other is to note that the age of consent varies, depending on the action to be undertaken. Courts have demonstrated that they are willing and eager to lead the way to normalizing depravity.

44 posted on 06/25/2014 9:41:32 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: I cannot think of a name

This male needs to be inverstigated for pedophilia and locked up. No sane person could possibly believe this. It is however part of the homosexual revolution. Perversion on display. I am beginning to believe that America has become too sick to survive.


45 posted on 06/25/2014 9:49:52 AM PDT by formosa
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On August 17, 2011 a symposium sponsored by an association of mental health professionals called B4U-ACT took place in Baltimore, Md. The official brochure declared:

“This day long symposium will facilitate the exchange of ideas among researchers, scholars, mental health practitioners, and minor-attracted persons who have an interest in critical issues surrounding the entry for pedophilia in the Diagnostic Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) of the American Psychiatric Association.”

In plain English, this is a symposium whose goal is to facilitate the removal of Pedophilia from the American Psychiatric Societies official list of Mental Disorders (DSM). B4U-ACT has already coined a bland, innocuous, and inoffensive term to make the idea of child-sex more palatable: “minor-attracted persons.” This phrase sounds almost pleasant, distinctly unlike those nasty and soon-to-be-politically-incorrect words like “pedophile” and “child molester.” (How does pedophobic grab you?) Not surprisingly, the featured speaker is Dr. Fred Berlin of Johns Hopkins University, a colleague of Dr. John Money. Child advocate, Dr. Judith Reisman disclosed that the conference is part of a strategy to condition people into accepting pedophiles: “The first thing they do is to get the public to divest from thinking of what the offender does criminally, to thinking of his emotional state…to empathize and sympathize…You don’t change the nation in one fell swoop, you have to change it by conditioning.”

Although first published nearly two decades ago, a special issue of The Journal of Homosexuality called “Male Intergenerational Intimacy” edited by three prestigious scholars (all PhD’s) gives us a taste of what is to come:

“In contemporary Western society, intimate sexual relations between men and boys are considered as immoral…regardless of the emotional contexts in which they occur [not according to Joel Marks and Peter Singer!]…the current social climate makes it rather difficult to look at these relationships in an objective way…man-boy relationships are not uncommon. As in homosexuality, man-boy sexuality occurs and not seldom in a context in which both partners consent…in these relationships a diversity of feelings are or can be expressed: affection, attachment, desire, domination and submission…men who feel attracted to boys have to legitimize their feelings toward themselves as well as towards society.”

All we are missing now is a scholarly “scientific” study which informs us that we have finally isolated a “man-child attraction” gene! An old German expression comes to mind: “So fangt es immer an”- “It always starts in the same way.” What also comes to mind are the lyrics of an old protest song from the 60’s: “And you tell me over and over again my friend, you don’t believe we’re on the eve of destruction?”
-From: Pedophilia Is Next On the Slippery Slope

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SEE ALSO:

“Even though words like “sinful” and “evil” come naturally to the tongue as say a description of child molesting. They do not describe any actual properties of anything. There are no literal sins in the world because there is no literal God…nothing is literally right or wrong because there is no Morality…yet we human beings can still discover plenty of completely naturally explainable resources for motivating certain preferences. Thus enough of us are sufficiently averse to the molestation of children and would likely continue to be…( An Amoral Manifesto Part I )

46 posted on 06/25/2014 10:17:23 AM PDT by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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To: markomalley

The headline can easily be interpreted in the other direction by the liberals.

Homosexuality = pedophilia. One is okay; they are like each other; therefore, they are both okay.


47 posted on 06/25/2014 10:26:26 AM PDT by lurk
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To: CaptainPhilFan

Only 30? On Facebook you can choose from 56!


48 posted on 06/25/2014 10:32:49 AM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Cboldt

For Muzzies its a 15 minute marriage.


49 posted on 06/25/2014 10:36:34 AM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: markomalley
"Several queer lawmakers called those comments offensive."

Fixed it...

50 posted on 06/25/2014 11:07:54 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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